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February 27, 2005

Sim,

We have kids on the spectrum largely for the same reasons we are on this list :

untreated hypothyroid mommies have kids with low iodine, low selenium,

Iron-overloaded from iron filings in our food and the dam* pre-natals (also

folates such as folic acid feed Borrelia burgdorferi of Lyme), bromine in the

flour, fluorine and chlorine in our water, mouths full of amalgam. Many of us

also have autoimmune disorders, undiagnosed Lyme (this one is hugely

unrecognized), chronic viral infections (Epstein-Barr, HHV, CMV, etc), then we

have toxic births with drugs, we are told are " harmless " , and while we are on

our backs and can't do anything about it, they cut the umbilical cord early

before it quits pulsing the real " birthday present " God designed, which includes

sometimes 50% of the baby's blood volume, rich in zinc, selenium, iodine, oxygen

and immune compliment stuff that we don't know and can never duplicate. [This is

a mutli-billion dollar racket,btw, of " stolen " cord blood and related

pharmceuticals!] Then they dump viruses and drugs with mercury and adjuvants

that make Nazi doctors look like missionaries into these babies (HepB on day

one!) and more mercury than the law would allow for a 550 lb man! And guess

what? they are still doing it as of 6 months ago and saying " there's no

thimerasol, anymore... " Yeah, it's still there; they just lie; to us; to each

other; to themselves.

Guess what the euphemisms " judicial and tort reform " really stand for? They

stand for legislation which will give BigPharma immunity for the untold harm

they continue to profit from while damaging and killing with vaccinations, and

pharmaceuticals that other countries won't even import.

There are lists like this where people can find the truth and tell each other

the truth and we can save ourselves and our kids from the REAL dangers that they

face - namely, the people we are supposed to be able to trust : doctors, schools

(oh, man, don't get me started on that one!) We can learn how to treat our

hypothyroid and our low adrenals and how to chelate the metals out of our bodies

and our babies' brains and we can warn each other about the well-intentioned and

mis-guided ideas and keep each other from stampeding over the cliff like

lemmings.

My kiddo (NLD/Asperger's, 4'11 " /140lbs) will be 12 this summer (I'm an old,

sick, 53) and she's one of the most interesting and difficult combinations of

talents and disabilities going. She is truly brilliant (tested as a freshman in

language when she was just 9) and has a 40 pt VIQ/PIQ split so her abllity to

function socially is really impaired but she's so verbally/cognitively gifted

that folks are constantly pissed and think she's a brat. Plus, if you are

dealing with Asperger's you know what a treat the meltdowns and Sensory

Processing Disorders can be - NOT! She's been really brutalized, and now the

best I can do is to stay alive and homeschool and keep her safe from a system

that would chew her up and spit her out.

Gosh, if I sound like this, severely hypo, I wonder if it's safe for me to

treat?? ROTFLMBO... no wonder I'm isolated, LOL!!

....

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Thyroid-S SIM

Hi ;

I'm so sorry to hear about everything you have (and are still)

going thru. I, also, have a child on the spectrum. He is 8 with

asperger's syndrome.

Sim

> Sim,

>

> I might have been offended before I have ended up on the wrong

side of AMA, ADA, and BigPharma through, bad, inadequate, non-

existent, mutilative care for the past 50 of 52 years. I still might

have been offended before my C-section w/ anesthesia that never

worked, and " Standard of Care " of my baby that resulted in

iatrogenic Austism Spectrum Disorder and mercury poisoning from

vaccines in both of us. I might have been offended before I the

government that my family has fought and died for for over 300

years, passed legislation to protect the pharmaceutical companies

from being held culpable for their greedy disregard of human life at

all ages and their theft of priceless biological materiel obtained

in early cordclamping during birth that denies babies of their God-

intended blood and immunity. I might have been offended if my

government wasn't advocating unthinkable policies to control and

medicate children and force vaccinations on children and soldiers

without consent. I'm an auto-immune mommy with hypothyroid who's

wasting hours in front of a computer because I can't do anything

else in my home and I'm afraid to lie down that I might not get back

up to take care of a child that no one else can. I'm too tired to be

offended. (Nothing quite so bitter as a disenchanted conservative,

eh?)

>

> Nice article - shows us that the rest of the world has cell

phones, too.

>

> ...

>

> I checked back in my " history " file and found the exact

article.

> I should probably warn people that the author holds certain

> political views that some may not agree with; but that I am

posting

> the link for the information about Thailand pharmeceuticals

*only*.

>

> Here it is:

>

> http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3131aids_uspolicy.html

>

February 27, 2005

>>Gosh, if I sound like this, severely hypo, I wonder if it's safe for me to

treat?? ROTFLMBO... no wonder I'm isolated, LOL!!<<

I am laughing my butt off here, cause you remind me of myself! LOL I am on a

roll with the veterinary medical world. Where you are protecting YOUR child I am

trying to educate and protest hundreds of animals in my care as well as my own

from some of the same CRAP!Long ago I found the veterinary profession lacking in

the modern knowledge they SHOULD have to care for my pets. I got my education

there from the school of hard knocks working in huge kennels and many vets over

my years of this work, and I can tell you the ignorance is horrible in ALL

medical fields. I even do quarterly newsletters to help educate my clients about

their pet's health risks, including over vaccination, thyroid disorders, and

modern flea prevention verses those HORRID poisonous dips that are STILL used at

the vets here. God bless us all in our fight for GOOD medical treatments.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

February 27, 2005

>>At least vets know that you don't vaccinate compromised/ill baby animals.<<

Ya think? better rethink that! My hypothyroid cat was FINE till he went to the

vet to be neutered. I Specifically told them I wanted NO vaccinations at that

time till he recovered from the surgery. They did them anyway! It was less than

a month later he had his first Rodent Ulcer and a month after that he became

lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED

me off!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

February 27, 2005

>>At least vets know that you don't vaccinate compromised/ill baby animals.<<

Ya think? better rethink that! My hypothyroid cat was FINE till he went to the

vet to be neutered. I Specifically told them I wanted NO vaccinations at that

time till he recovered from the surgery. They did them anyway! It was less than

a month later he had his first Rodent Ulcer and a month after that he became

lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED

me off!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

February 27, 2005

>>At least vets know that you don't vaccinate compromised/ill baby animals.<<

Ya think? better rethink that! My hypothyroid cat was FINE till he went to the

vet to be neutered. I Specifically told them I wanted NO vaccinations at that

time till he recovered from the surgery. They did them anyway! It was less than

a month later he had his first Rodent Ulcer and a month after that he became

lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED

me off!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

February 27, 2005

> > Sim,

> >

> > I might have been offended before I have ended up on the wrong

> side of AMA, ADA, and BigPharma through, bad, inadequate, non-

> existent, mutilative care for the past 50 of 52 years. I still

might

> have been offended before my C-section w/ anesthesia that never

> worked, and " Standard of Care " of my baby that resulted in

> iatrogenic Austism Spectrum Disorder and mercury poisoning from

> vaccines in both of us. I might have been offended before I the

> government that my family has fought and died for for over 300

> years, passed legislation to protect the pharmaceutical

companies

> from being held culpable for their greedy disregard of human

life at

> all ages and their theft of priceless biological materiel

obtained

> in early cordclamping during birth that denies babies of their

God-

> intended blood and immunity. I might have been offended if my

> government wasn't advocating unthinkable policies to control

and

> medicate children and force vaccinations on children and

soldiers

> without consent. I'm an auto-immune mommy with hypothyroid who's

> wasting hours in front of a computer because I can't do anything

> else in my home and I'm afraid to lie down that I might not get

back

> up to take care of a child that no one else can. I'm too tired

to be

> offended. (Nothing quite so bitter as a disenchanted

conservative,

> eh?)

> >

> > Nice article - shows us that the rest of the world has cell

> phones, too.

> >

> > ...

> >

> > I checked back in my " history " file and found the exact

> article.

> > I should probably warn people that the author holds certain

> > political views that some may not agree with; but that I am

> posting

> > the link for the information about Thailand pharmeceuticals

> *only*.

> >

> > Here it is:

> >

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3131aids_uspolicy.html

> >

February 27, 2005

Why do they relish doing so many wrong things and we can't get them to do the

right things?! Why in the h*** do they waste good money in training? Any idiot's

judgement would be better. no wonder we are all sad and pissed off.

Btw, what's a Rodent Ulcer?

....

----- Original Message -----

They did them anyway! It was less than a month later he had his first Rodent

Ulcer and a month after that he became lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused

his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED me off!

February 27, 2005

Why do they relish doing so many wrong things and we can't get them to do the

right things?! Why in the h*** do they waste good money in training? Any idiot's

judgement would be better. no wonder we are all sad and pissed off.

Btw, what's a Rodent Ulcer?

....

----- Original Message -----

They did them anyway! It was less than a month later he had his first Rodent

Ulcer and a month after that he became lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused

his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED me off!

February 27, 2005

Why do they relish doing so many wrong things and we can't get them to do the

right things?! Why in the h*** do they waste good money in training? Any idiot's

judgement would be better. no wonder we are all sad and pissed off.

Btw, what's a Rodent Ulcer?

....

----- Original Message -----

They did them anyway! It was less than a month later he had his first Rodent

Ulcer and a month after that he became lethargic, so I am sure it is what caused

his hypo. Very sad, and really PI$$ED me off!

February 27, 2005

> >

> > My kiddo (NLD/Asperger's, 4'11 " /140lbs) will be 12 this summer

> (I'm an old, sick, 53) and she's one of the most interesting and

> difficult combinations of talents and disabilities going. She is

> truly brilliant (tested as a freshman in language when she was

just

> 9) and has a 40 pt VIQ/PIQ split so her abllity to function

socially

> is really impaired but she's so verbally/cognitively gifted that

> folks are constantly pissed and think she's a brat. Plus, if you

are

> dealing with Asperger's you know what a treat the meltdowns and

> Sensory Processing Disorders can be - NOT! She's been really

> brutalized, and now the best I can do is to stay alive and

> homeschool and keep her safe from a system that would chew her up

> and spit her out.

My son is about 5' and 95 lbs (he's not even 9!). He's at the point

that he can lift me off the floor when he gives me a bear hug!I

noticed something was up with him when he was three. Although most

people thought he was brilliant because of things he would say; his

father and I recognized that he was scripting entire movies;

miraculously when it was appropriate! He had amazing skills:

navigating cd-roms at two, chess at three, reading books at 4, major

science and art gifts, too. He built his first working robot at 5;

and began programming them w/ the computer at 6.

He did well " academically " in preschool; although he had a major

obssession with Dracula, lol. It sort of freaked out the other kids.

To this day, he doesn't recognize or remember any kids that he

attended preschool with when we bump into them outside; although

they remember him. In fact, he has no desire to socialize with other

kids, except two that he's known since babyhood. He's really giving

me a hard time about attending a social skills group; but it breaks

my heart to see him without anyone; although it seems to bother me

more than him.

I don't know what his IQ is, because the one time I took him to be

tested (when he was three) he pelted the assessor with blocks while

he laughed his head off until she stormed out of the room in a rage.

We were stunned.However, he's reading on a 7th grade level, and does

really well at math, and loves to take IQ tests at home. He also has

great daily living skills; he can follow recipes and cook certain

meals all by himself, like pancakes. His only real problem seems to

be social apathy and certain semantic pragmatic speech problems.

Sorry this is so long; I feel very isolated sometimes, too. This is

not exactly something I can talk about with most people. Have you

joined any AS online groups? Some of them are really wonderful.

Sim

February 27, 2005