Re: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

[Guest guest]

Laurie, I am so sorry for what yo and your husband are going through,

I can not even begin to imagine...

I am not familiar with the law, here or anywhere else enough to answer

you. But I would ask, if he is not eligible for tx, then why adhere to

tx protocol? Also, if there is no chance for survival/recovery, then I

have a hard time seeing how they can override your DNR. You say he

signed papers, do you mean an actual DNR? If so, I can't see any way

they can dispute that. I think his doctors need to clearly and plainly

explain to you what his prognosis is.

I will say a prayer for you both.

ee

>

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

I feel for both you and Kelley. I am praying that Kelley will come around and be fully healed, but also that God will give you peace and guidance in making a decision.

Ian

My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I give up on him now.Laurie wife to Kelley

-- Ian Cribb P.Eng.

[Guest guest]

I am so sooorryyy My toughts and prayers are with your family

Dawn-

-- In , " kelley1scott "

wrote:

>

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the

Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support

to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support.

I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if

I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

Oh my dear Laurie:

I agree that the prognosis should be given to you. Could Kelley not be

eligible just at this moment with the bleeding, etc. ?

My husband has had two bleed outs and came out of both fine.

I too will pray for you both and you should in the least call for a supervisor,

transplant co-ordinator, and/or a spiritual advisor (if you so believe) and keep

the faith my dear , that all will be better with the next day. Monday is a good

day at hospitals and not always the same as weekends.

The tears you thought you saw may be the oil they put on his eyes to keep them

from getting too dry and not open easily.

ICU can give the patient and caretaker good and bad so demand someone come and

tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. Including the known patient

reactions to all the meds and machines in that setting.

Probably, no one better to explain that then Barb, when Ken was there or even

Ken himself if he will.

I am also, sure they will check Kelley's mental health more in depth. The human

body and mind are a great machine and faith and optimism play a monumental part

in healing.

All the strength and courage I can possibly send to you from here.

Hugs,

dee

My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

>

>

Dee Vinovich, GRI

Queen of Staging

Traders Realty Corp.

721 W. Lake

Peoria, IL 61614

dvinovich@...

[Guest guest]

Oh my dear Laurie:

I agree that the prognosis should be given to you. Could Kelley not be

eligible just at this moment with the bleeding, etc. ?

My husband has had two bleed outs and came out of both fine.

I too will pray for you both and you should in the least call for a supervisor,

transplant co-ordinator, and/or a spiritual advisor (if you so believe) and keep

the faith my dear , that all will be better with the next day. Monday is a good

day at hospitals and not always the same as weekends.

The tears you thought you saw may be the oil they put on his eyes to keep them

from getting too dry and not open easily.

ICU can give the patient and caretaker good and bad so demand someone come and

tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. Including the known patient

reactions to all the meds and machines in that setting.

Probably, no one better to explain that then Barb, when Ken was there or even

Ken himself if he will.

I am also, sure they will check Kelley's mental health more in depth. The human

body and mind are a great machine and faith and optimism play a monumental part

in healing.

All the strength and courage I can possibly send to you from here.

Hugs,

dee

My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

>

>

Dee Vinovich, GRI

Queen of Staging

Traders Realty Corp.

721 W. Lake

Peoria, IL 61614

dvinovich@...

[Guest guest]

Oh my dear Laurie:

I agree that the prognosis should be given to you. Could Kelley not be

eligible just at this moment with the bleeding, etc. ?

My husband has had two bleed outs and came out of both fine.

I too will pray for you both and you should in the least call for a supervisor,

transplant co-ordinator, and/or a spiritual advisor (if you so believe) and keep

the faith my dear , that all will be better with the next day. Monday is a good

day at hospitals and not always the same as weekends.

The tears you thought you saw may be the oil they put on his eyes to keep them

from getting too dry and not open easily.

ICU can give the patient and caretaker good and bad so demand someone come and

tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. Including the known patient

reactions to all the meds and machines in that setting.

Probably, no one better to explain that then Barb, when Ken was there or even

Ken himself if he will.

I am also, sure they will check Kelley's mental health more in depth. The human

body and mind are a great machine and faith and optimism play a monumental part

in healing.

All the strength and courage I can possibly send to you from here.

Hugs,

dee

My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

>

>

Dee Vinovich, GRI

Queen of Staging

Traders Realty Corp.

721 W. Lake

Peoria, IL 61614

dvinovich@...

[Guest guest]

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

We are lifting you and Kelley up in prayer that you both are at peace

with whatever decision you make during this excruciating difficult

time. I hope that the transplant team has the answers you are looking

for as well as the compassion.

Joanne (mom of Todd)

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry.

I will be praying for you and your husband. I haven't been in your

position but I have been told that my son had very little hope of

surviving his first surgery, but that surgery was his ONLY hope of

surviving and that most babies would already have died who were as

sick as he was. It was a horrible feeling watching him being taken

back to the OR but I knew in my heart that he had a fighting chance. I

will be praying that the news gets better,and that your husband can be

listed soon and get his gift of life.

Lori

>

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry.

I will be praying for you and your husband. I haven't been in your

position but I have been told that my son had very little hope of

surviving his first surgery, but that surgery was his ONLY hope of

surviving and that most babies would already have died who were as

sick as he was. It was a horrible feeling watching him being taken

back to the OR but I knew in my heart that he had a fighting chance. I

will be praying that the news gets better,and that your husband can be

listed soon and get his gift of life.

Lori

>

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry.

I will be praying for you and your husband. I haven't been in your

position but I have been told that my son had very little hope of

surviving his first surgery, but that surgery was his ONLY hope of

surviving and that most babies would already have died who were as

sick as he was. It was a horrible feeling watching him being taken

back to the OR but I knew in my heart that he had a fighting chance. I

will be praying that the news gets better,and that your husband can be

listed soon and get his gift of life.

Lori

>

> My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.

> He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

> brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

> He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

> guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

> stay at the center.

> My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

> have durable power of attorney.

> I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

> swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

> Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

> give up on him now.

>

> Laurie

> wife to Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

I can't offer you any advice, but I wanted to send you some good thoughts and

words of encouragement. I'm sure whatever choice you make will be the right one

for you and Kelley. Please know we're all here for you if you need us!

Thinking of you and sending good thoughts!

Sandi in VA

[Guest guest]

Laurie and Kelley,

You are both in our prayers right now. We will pray for good communication

with physicians and that all of your options are clearly presented to you and

for peace and comfort as you are waiting to find out what will happen.

Rick

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of kelley1scott

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:04 PM

To:

Subject: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS

Little Rock

My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the

transplant center.

He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

stay at the center.

My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

have durable power of attorney.

I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

give up on him now.

Laurie

wife to Kelley

[Guest guest]

Laurie and Kelley,

You are both in our prayers right now. We will pray for good communication

with physicians and that all of your options are clearly presented to you and

for peace and comfort as you are waiting to find out what will happen.

Rick

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of kelley1scott

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:04 PM

To:

Subject: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS

Little Rock

My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the

transplant center.

He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

stay at the center.

My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

have durable power of attorney.

I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

give up on him now.

Laurie

wife to Kelley

[Guest guest]

Laurie and Kelley,

You are both in our prayers right now. We will pray for good communication

with physicians and that all of your options are clearly presented to you and

for peace and comfort as you are waiting to find out what will happen.

Rick

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of kelley1scott

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:04 PM

To:

Subject: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS

Little Rock

My husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the

transplant center.

He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small

brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.

He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant

guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to

stay at the center.

My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I

have durable power of attorney.

I have to go before an ethics board tomorrow to plead my case.. I

swear I saw tears in Kelley's eyes today.. He has suffered so long.

Does any one think he has even a slim chance? I will feel guilty if I

give up on him now.

Laurie

wife to Kelley

[Guest guest]

Please know that you and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers. I know there are some on here that have had circumstances that were very critical and hopefully they will see your post.

Bettyann (SC)

[Guest guest]

Please know that you and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers. I know there are some on here that have had circumstances that were very critical and hopefully they will see your post.

Bettyann (SC)

[Guest guest]

Please know that you and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers. I know there are some on here that have had circumstances that were very critical and hopefully they will see your post.

Bettyann (SC)

[Guest guest]

Laurie,I agree fully with what Lee wrote. If you are given realistic hope then I would push for a transplant. If there is no realistic hope, then I would push for the DNR being recognized.With your husband in a coma, I don't think he is aware of his suffering, however you no doubt suffer seeing him.Marie

To: From: leedeubert@...Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:26:25 -0500Subject: Re: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

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[Guest guest]

Laurie,I agree fully with what Lee wrote. If you are given realistic hope then I would push for a transplant. If there is no realistic hope, then I would push for the DNR being recognized.With your husband in a coma, I don't think he is aware of his suffering, however you no doubt suffer seeing him.Marie

To: From: leedeubert@...Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:26:25 -0500Subject: Re: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,I agree fully with what Lee wrote. If you are given realistic hope then I would push for a transplant. If there is no realistic hope, then I would push for the DNR being recognized.With your husband in a coma, I don't think he is aware of his suffering, however you no doubt suffer seeing him.Marie

To: From: leedeubert@...Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:26:25 -0500Subject: Re: My husband was airtransported 1/08/09 to UAMS Little Rock

Laurie,My heart goes out to you and I hope you can talk with someone on the transplant team ASAP to determine if and when they might be able to do a transplant before you make any decisions.Under what circumstances might a transplant happen? If they get the infection under control?If he comes out of the coma? What priority would he have? Have the brain seizures done any damage?If the transplant team gave me any hope I would hold out. If not then I would gather the loved ones you trust to helpyou make any further decisions.Praying for you at this very difficult time,LeeMy husband is in ICU in Little Rock at the transplant center.He was bleeding out both ends,he is in a coma, he is having small brain seizures, he has tested positive for blood infections.He will not be offered a transplant at this point, but the Transplant guidelines require that my husband on full CODE! and life support to stay at the center.My husband had previously signed papers not to be on life support. I have durable power of attorney.

Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

I’m so sorry –

For myself, if I have any hope of recovery and being able to

live a good life, I want my family and doctors to do everything they can. If

there is no hope for me ever having fun, I just want to go quietly.

You have to do what you think is best and what Kelley would

want. I will be thinking good thoughts and praying for you. That is the hardest

decision you ever have to make.

Anita

[Guest guest]

Laurie I am so sorry. I will keep you and in my prayers.