Re: stomache problems/ smoking cigarettes

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 9:06:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

richkare@... writes:

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive problems? Or

>

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

a couple of thoughts here...

stopping cigarettes often shows up existing hypo. although i was moderately

hypo for years apparently, it was only after i quit cigs that it became

severe. i've seen references in the literature about this phenomenon. the cig

keep

the metabolism up a little bit evidently.

I also have/had severe digestive problems because of the untreated hypo for

years and years. are you sure his diverticulois wasn't because of untreated

hypo? and that now hypo is just showing up more severely because of stopping

cigs and natural progresssion...and also thyroid hormone levels probably would

have dropped because of the surgery anyway.

To know what is going on with him - get a Free T4 and Free T3 test. If the

levels are in the lower 1/3, suspect hypo.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

, there's a huge connection between smoking and thyroid

health.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/smoking.htm

I'd tried quitting for the last year and got no where, then when I

was diagnosed hypo and put on hormones when I tried it would feel

like i was sick all over again.

One of the things I discovered about smoking and how the addiction

works was from the testing I had done at a private clinic. Smoking

effects your serotonin and dopamine levels, being hypot affects them

too. When you smoke your levels rise each time, then fall between

cigarettes - when you quit that fall in neurotransmitters is one of

the big things that makes you so miserable. My doctor put me on

serotonin and dopamine precursors (5HTP and Tyrosine) and I cannot

tell you how much better I feel. I quit 4 weeks ago and it was a

walk in the park. No cravings, no mood swings, no need for more

thyroid hormones - I'm besides myself. I put my DH on the two amino

acids as well and he's a new man; he quit smoking too (20 year

smoker).

BTW, one of the reasons that anti depressants dont work when youre

hypot is due to the connection between depleted T3 levels and

serotonin. As well, tyrosine is the amino acid used to make

thyroxin - there's a complex connection between these two brain

chemicals, being hypot and getting well again.

Nat

> Hi,

>

> My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

drastic

> infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

hospitalized for

> over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

Ever since

> then he started packing on the pounds and even after the reversal

procedure

> (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

exercising

> daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

complains of

> foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in general)

CAUSE a

> thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

normal in

> weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from stopping

cigarettes

> after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

thyroid

> stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

other

> people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

going off

> cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin for

> depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that came

on later

> in life (he is 48).

>

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

problems? Or

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

>

[Guest guest]

, there's a huge connection between smoking and thyroid

health.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/smoking.htm

I'd tried quitting for the last year and got no where, then when I

was diagnosed hypo and put on hormones when I tried it would feel

like i was sick all over again.

One of the things I discovered about smoking and how the addiction

works was from the testing I had done at a private clinic. Smoking

effects your serotonin and dopamine levels, being hypot affects them

too. When you smoke your levels rise each time, then fall between

cigarettes - when you quit that fall in neurotransmitters is one of

the big things that makes you so miserable. My doctor put me on

serotonin and dopamine precursors (5HTP and Tyrosine) and I cannot

tell you how much better I feel. I quit 4 weeks ago and it was a

walk in the park. No cravings, no mood swings, no need for more

thyroid hormones - I'm besides myself. I put my DH on the two amino

acids as well and he's a new man; he quit smoking too (20 year

smoker).

BTW, one of the reasons that anti depressants dont work when youre

hypot is due to the connection between depleted T3 levels and

serotonin. As well, tyrosine is the amino acid used to make

thyroxin - there's a complex connection between these two brain

chemicals, being hypot and getting well again.

Nat

> Hi,

>

> My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

drastic

> infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

hospitalized for

> over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

Ever since

> then he started packing on the pounds and even after the reversal

procedure

> (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

exercising

> daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

complains of

> foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in general)

CAUSE a

> thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

normal in

> weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from stopping

cigarettes

> after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

thyroid

> stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

other

> people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

going off

> cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin for

> depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that came

on later

> in life (he is 48).

>

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

problems? Or

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I developed Graves' Disease (hyperthyroid) after quitting smoking -

I was 46 and had smoked for 28 years...About a month after I quit I

had a lot of small symptoms that could be (and were) passed off as

other things. It took 4 months and multiple office visits to finally

get the Graves' diagnosis. And Graves' can have some of the same

symptoms as hypothyroid, like being tired, foggy thoughts, even

sometimes weight gain instead of loss.

Might be worth getting his thyroid tested?

Good luck,

Joyce

>

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

problems? Or

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I developed Graves' Disease (hyperthyroid) after quitting smoking -

I was 46 and had smoked for 28 years...About a month after I quit I

had a lot of small symptoms that could be (and were) passed off as

other things. It took 4 months and multiple office visits to finally

get the Graves' diagnosis. And Graves' can have some of the same

symptoms as hypothyroid, like being tired, foggy thoughts, even

sometimes weight gain instead of loss.

Might be worth getting his thyroid tested?

Good luck,

Joyce

>

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

problems? Or

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I developed Graves' Disease (hyperthyroid) after quitting smoking -

I was 46 and had smoked for 28 years...About a month after I quit I

had a lot of small symptoms that could be (and were) passed off as

other things. It took 4 months and multiple office visits to finally

get the Graves' diagnosis. And Graves' can have some of the same

symptoms as hypothyroid, like being tired, foggy thoughts, even

sometimes weight gain instead of loss.

Might be worth getting his thyroid tested?

Good luck,

Joyce

>

> Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

problems? Or

> an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nat,

Thanks for the info...looks really interesting.It sounds from the article

as though nicotine may be a thyroid stimulant...may increase levels of T3;

then quitting would cause a " crash " .

I grew up around a lot of second hand smoke from both of my parents and

wonder whether that afffected my thyroid and brought on Hashi's.

At 02:25 PM 3/4/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>, there's a huge connection between smoking and thyroid

>health.

>

>http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/smoking.htmhttp://www.thyroid-info.com/a\

rticles/smoking.htm

>

>I'd tried quitting for the last year and got no where, then when I

>was diagnosed hypo and put on hormones when I tried it would feel

>like i was sick all over again.

>

>One of the things I discovered about smoking and how the addiction

>works was from the testing I had done at a private clinic. Smoking

>effects your serotonin and dopamine levels, being hypot affects them

>too. When you smoke your levels rise each time, then fall between

>cigarettes - when you quit that fall in neurotransmitters is one of

>the big things that makes you so miserable. My doctor put me on

>serotonin and dopamine precursors (5HTP and Tyrosine) and I cannot

>tell you how much better I feel. I quit 4 weeks ago and it was a

>walk in the park. No cravings, no mood swings, no need for more

>thyroid hormones - I'm besides myself. I put my DH on the two amino

>acids as well and he's a new man; he quit smoking too (20 year

>smoker).

>

>BTW, one of the reasons that anti depressants dont work when youre

>hypot is due to the connection between depleted T3 levels and

>serotonin. As well, tyrosine is the amino acid used to make

>thyroxin - there's a complex connection between these two brain

>chemicals, being hypot and getting well again.

>

>Nat

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

>drastic

> > infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

>hospitalized for

> > over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

>Ever since

> > then he started packing on the pounds and even after the reversal

>procedure

> > (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

>exercising

> > daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

>complains of

> > foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in general)

>CAUSE a

> > thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

>normal in

> > weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from stopping

>cigarettes

> > after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

>thyroid

> > stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

>other

> > people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

>going off

> > cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin for

> > depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that came

>on later

> > in life (he is 48).

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

>problems? Or

> > an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nat,

Thanks for the info...looks really interesting.It sounds from the article

as though nicotine may be a thyroid stimulant...may increase levels of T3;

then quitting would cause a " crash " .

I grew up around a lot of second hand smoke from both of my parents and

wonder whether that afffected my thyroid and brought on Hashi's.

At 02:25 PM 3/4/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>, there's a huge connection between smoking and thyroid

>health.

>

>http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/smoking.htmhttp://www.thyroid-info.com/a\

rticles/smoking.htm

>

>I'd tried quitting for the last year and got no where, then when I

>was diagnosed hypo and put on hormones when I tried it would feel

>like i was sick all over again.

>

>One of the things I discovered about smoking and how the addiction

>works was from the testing I had done at a private clinic. Smoking

>effects your serotonin and dopamine levels, being hypot affects them

>too. When you smoke your levels rise each time, then fall between

>cigarettes - when you quit that fall in neurotransmitters is one of

>the big things that makes you so miserable. My doctor put me on

>serotonin and dopamine precursors (5HTP and Tyrosine) and I cannot

>tell you how much better I feel. I quit 4 weeks ago and it was a

>walk in the park. No cravings, no mood swings, no need for more

>thyroid hormones - I'm besides myself. I put my DH on the two amino

>acids as well and he's a new man; he quit smoking too (20 year

>smoker).

>

>BTW, one of the reasons that anti depressants dont work when youre

>hypot is due to the connection between depleted T3 levels and

>serotonin. As well, tyrosine is the amino acid used to make

>thyroxin - there's a complex connection between these two brain

>chemicals, being hypot and getting well again.

>

>Nat

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

>drastic

> > infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

>hospitalized for

> > over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

>Ever since

> > then he started packing on the pounds and even after the reversal

>procedure

> > (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

>exercising

> > daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

>complains of

> > foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in general)

>CAUSE a

> > thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

>normal in

> > weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from stopping

>cigarettes

> > after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

>thyroid

> > stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

>other

> > people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

>going off

> > cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin for

> > depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that came

>on later

> > in life (he is 48).

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

>problems? Or

> > an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nat,

Thanks for the info...looks really interesting.It sounds from the article

as though nicotine may be a thyroid stimulant...may increase levels of T3;

then quitting would cause a " crash " .

I grew up around a lot of second hand smoke from both of my parents and

wonder whether that afffected my thyroid and brought on Hashi's.

At 02:25 PM 3/4/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>, there's a huge connection between smoking and thyroid

>health.

>

>http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/smoking.htmhttp://www.thyroid-info.com/a\

rticles/smoking.htm

>

>I'd tried quitting for the last year and got no where, then when I

>was diagnosed hypo and put on hormones when I tried it would feel

>like i was sick all over again.

>

>One of the things I discovered about smoking and how the addiction

>works was from the testing I had done at a private clinic. Smoking

>effects your serotonin and dopamine levels, being hypot affects them

>too. When you smoke your levels rise each time, then fall between

>cigarettes - when you quit that fall in neurotransmitters is one of

>the big things that makes you so miserable. My doctor put me on

>serotonin and dopamine precursors (5HTP and Tyrosine) and I cannot

>tell you how much better I feel. I quit 4 weeks ago and it was a

>walk in the park. No cravings, no mood swings, no need for more

>thyroid hormones - I'm besides myself. I put my DH on the two amino

>acids as well and he's a new man; he quit smoking too (20 year

>smoker).

>

>BTW, one of the reasons that anti depressants dont work when youre

>hypot is due to the connection between depleted T3 levels and

>serotonin. As well, tyrosine is the amino acid used to make

>thyroxin - there's a complex connection between these two brain

>chemicals, being hypot and getting well again.

>

>Nat

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

>drastic

> > infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

>hospitalized for

> > over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

>Ever since

> > then he started packing on the pounds and even after the reversal

>procedure

> > (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

>exercising

> > daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

>complains of

> > foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in general)

>CAUSE a

> > thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

>normal in

> > weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from stopping

>cigarettes

> > after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

>thyroid

> > stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

>other

> > people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

>going off

> > cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin for

> > depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that came

>on later

> > in life (he is 48).

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

>problems? Or

> > an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Would you please tell us Nat exactly what supplements and the

amounts that you used? My son-in-law has not been able to give up

smoking and won't take the number of supplements Dr. Gant suggests.

He might be willing to take the few (as I hear you) that you took.

================================

Kallie, thanks

Sure, I was on a combination called Neuroreplete taken 2x a day.

300mgs 5HTP / 3000mgs tyrosine / 75mgs B6 total for the day

(divided, at 8 am and at 4 pm). I was also on Cysteplete 3x a day,

45000mgs cysteine HCL / 450 mcgs selenium - this was to keep SAMe

from dropping, which can happen in some cases with large doses of

neurtransmitters. I took the full dose for about a week, then I cut

back to half and that's what I'm on now.

My DH is taking a little less and a little differently; 100mgs 5HTP

at night, 30 m inutes before bed and 1000mgs tyrosine first thing in

the morning. He's also quit smoking and his SAD is gone- the man

wakes up in the morning happy, before his alarm (and the alarm goes

off at 5 am). He sleeps his 8 hours and then he's up for the day.

This is unheard of for him - he used to always be late because he'd

hit the snooze buttong 4 or 5 times.

The thing with supplementing with either 5HTP or tyrosine is you

must also supplement with the other - as supplementing with only one

can cause the other to become depleted.

BTW, I am now sleeping through the night and I used to be a very

light sleeper.

Nat

[Guest guest]

> Would you please tell us Nat exactly what supplements and the

amounts that you used? My son-in-law has not been able to give up

smoking and won't take the number of supplements Dr. Gant suggests.

He might be willing to take the few (as I hear you) that you took.

================================

Kallie, thanks

Sure, I was on a combination called Neuroreplete taken 2x a day.

300mgs 5HTP / 3000mgs tyrosine / 75mgs B6 total for the day

(divided, at 8 am and at 4 pm). I was also on Cysteplete 3x a day,

45000mgs cysteine HCL / 450 mcgs selenium - this was to keep SAMe

from dropping, which can happen in some cases with large doses of

neurtransmitters. I took the full dose for about a week, then I cut

back to half and that's what I'm on now.

My DH is taking a little less and a little differently; 100mgs 5HTP

at night, 30 m inutes before bed and 1000mgs tyrosine first thing in

the morning. He's also quit smoking and his SAD is gone- the man

wakes up in the morning happy, before his alarm (and the alarm goes

off at 5 am). He sleeps his 8 hours and then he's up for the day.

This is unheard of for him - he used to always be late because he'd

hit the snooze buttong 4 or 5 times.

The thing with supplementing with either 5HTP or tyrosine is you

must also supplement with the other - as supplementing with only one

can cause the other to become depleted.

BTW, I am now sleeping through the night and I used to be a very

light sleeper.

Nat

[Guest guest]

, smoking, and quitting, is also really hard on the adrenals,

which can sometimes feel like thyroid. Then there's the stress

associated with quitting - stress can bring on hypothyroidism as

well.

When they say smoking is bad for you they really have no idea just

how bad it is.

N

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

> >drastic

> > > infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

> >hospitalized for

> > > over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

> >Ever since

> > > then he started packing on the pounds and even after the

reversal

> >procedure

> > > (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

> >exercising

> > > daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

> >complains of

> > > foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in

general)

> >CAUSE a

> > > thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

> >normal in

> > > weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from

stopping

> >cigarettes

> > > after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

> >thyroid

> > > stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

> >other

> > > people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

> >going off

> > > cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin

for

> > > depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that

came

> >on later

> > > in life (he is 48).

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

> >problems? Or

> > > an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, smoking, and quitting, is also really hard on the adrenals,

which can sometimes feel like thyroid. Then there's the stress

associated with quitting - stress can bring on hypothyroidism as

well.

When they say smoking is bad for you they really have no idea just

how bad it is.

N

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My DH had a temporary colostomy two years ago, due to a sudden

> >drastic

> > > infection from diverticulitis. He lost 25 lbs after being

> >hospitalized for

> > > over two weeks without taking food or water through his mouth.

> >Ever since

> > > then he started packing on the pounds and even after the

reversal

> >procedure

> > > (removal of colostomy) he can't seem to lose weight despite

> >exercising

> > > daily and eating much less food than I do.He seems tired and

> >complains of

> > > foggy thoughts. Can such an operation (or gut problems in

general)

> >CAUSE a

> > > thyroid problem to begin? Because before this happened he was

> >normal in

> > > weight, energy, mental acuity, etc. He thinks it's from

stopping

> >cigarettes

> > > after the operation. I guess it is possible that nicotine is a

> >thyroid

> > > stimulant and stopping it lowers thyroid function. I have heard

> >other

> > > people say they became heavy and couldn't think clearly after

> >going off

> > > cigarettes.The doc wants him on Ritalin for ADD and welbutrin

for

> > > depression but maybe the true cause is a thyroid problem that

came

> >on later

> > > in life (he is 48).

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any experience with either stomach/ digestive

> >problems? Or

> > > an increase in thyroid problems after giving up cigarettes?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kalli, I'm in Ottawa

Mine came from a compounding pharmacy (Nutrichem) but my DH's came

from whatever HFS I happend to be in that had them. I use NOW brand

tyrosine, Jarrow 5HTP, cysteine and selenium for him. He also takes

a potent Bmulti to get the b6 he needs. Its working just fine for

both of us. In fact, when my bottles of cysreplete and neuroreplete

are done I'm going to use the same stuff he uses, cause it's much

less expensive.

Nat

> Thanks Nat. Where do you get these supplements? I live in Canada

and do purchase from the US frequently.

>

> Kallie

> Re: stomache problems/ smoking

cigarettes

>

>

>

> > Would you please tell us Nat exactly what supplements and the

> amounts that you used? My son-in-law has not been able to give

up

> smoking and won't take the number of supplements Dr. Gant

suggests.

> He might be willing to take the few (as I hear you) that you

took.

>

> ================================

>

> Kallie, thanks

>

> Sure, I was on a combination called Neuroreplete taken 2x a

day.

> 300mgs 5HTP / 3000mgs tyrosine / 75mgs B6 total for the day

> (divided, at 8 am and at 4 pm). I was also on Cysteplete 3x a

day,

> 45000mgs cysteine HCL / 450 mcgs selenium - this was to keep

SAMe

> from dropping, which can happen in some cases with large doses

of

> neurtransmitters. I took the full dose for about a week, then I

cut

> back to half and that's what I'm on now.

>

> My DH is taking a little less and a little differently; 100mgs

5HTP

> at night, 30 m inutes before bed and 1000mgs tyrosine first

thing in

> the morning. He's also quit smoking and his SAD is gone- the

man

> wakes up in the morning happy, before his alarm (and the alarm

goes

> off at 5 am). He sleeps his 8 hours and then he's up for the

day.

> This is unheard of for him - he used to always be late because

he'd

> hit the snooze buttong 4 or 5 times.

>

> The thing with supplementing with either 5HTP or tyrosine is you

> must also supplement with the other - as supplementing with only

one

> can cause the other to become depleted.

>

> BTW, I am now sleeping through the night and I used to be a very

> light sleeper.

>

> Nat

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nat

I am in London, Ontario and appreciate your help.

Would you be willing to tell me how much of each supplement your husband is

taking?

THanks again

Kallie

Re: stomache problems/ smoking

cigarettes

>

>

>

> > Would you please tell us Nat exactly what supplements and the

> amounts that you used? My son-in-law has not been able to give

up

> smoking and won't take the number of supplements Dr. Gant

suggests.

> He might be willing to take the few (as I hear you) that you

took.

>

> ================================

>

> Kallie, thanks

>

> Sure, I was on a combination called Neuroreplete taken 2x a

day.

> 300mgs 5HTP / 3000mgs tyrosine / 75mgs B6 total for the day

> (divided, at 8 am and at 4 pm). I was also on Cysteplete 3x a

day,

> 45000mgs cysteine HCL / 450 mcgs selenium - this was to keep

SAMe

> from dropping, which can happen in some cases with large doses

of

> neurtransmitters. I took the full dose for about a week, then I

cut

> back to half and that's what I'm on now.

>

> My DH is taking a little less and a little differently; 100mgs

5HTP

> at night, 30 m inutes before bed and 1000mgs tyrosine first

thing in

> the morning. He's also quit smoking and his SAD is gone- the

man

> wakes up in the morning happy, before his alarm (and the alarm

goes

> off at 5 am). He sleeps his 8 hours and then he's up for the

day.

> This is unheard of for him - he used to always be late because

he'd

> hit the snooze buttong 4 or 5 times.

>

> The thing with supplementing with either 5HTP or tyrosine is you

> must also supplement with the other - as supplementing with only

one

> can cause the other to become depleted.

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> BTW, I am now sleeping through the night and I used to be a very

> light sleeper.

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> Nat

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