Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Hi there To try and enlighten on one question you asked.. What's in a Name: Fibro vs. CFS Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) share a number of symptoms, and the names are often used interchangeably in the medical literature. If you're confused about the difference between the syndromes, you're not alone. Even doctors are confused. Many experts, however, think fibromyalgia and CFS are the same -- or are at least variations of the same -- pain and fatigue syndrome. Research shows that between 50 percent and 70 percent of people with fibromyalgia also fit the criteria for CFS, and vice versa. Because the symptoms are so similar, the difference between one diagnosis and another may be simply a matter of degree. " Most patients with CFS have some kind of pain, and, of course, that is a hallmark of fibromyalgia. And most patients with fibromyalgia report fatigue -- a hallmark of CFS. Likewise, both involve a high frequency of sleep and cognitive disturbances, " says Cary Engleberg, MD, chief of the infectious diseases division at the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor. The diagnosis also may depend on whether your doctor is more familiar with the criteria for CFS, developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or those for fibromyalgia, developed by the American College of Rheumatology. There are a few documented differences between the conditions. Fibromyalgia often is traced to an injury or physical or emotional trauma, whereas CFS tends to have a flu-like onset. Researchers have found that people with fibromyalgia may have abnormal levels of several chemicals, such as substance P and serotonin, used by the body to transmit and respond to pain signals. Also, people with CFS only do not have tender points. These findings have led to different trends in research. Many fibromyalgia researchers have explored problems with pain transmission and pain amplification that may affect the condition. Researchers who study CFS have tended instead to investigate what role viruses may play in triggering CFS. Until researchers determine conclusively the fundamental biological, neurological and psychological differences between the syndromes, the diagnostic label makes little difference as long as both the physician and the patient take a comprehensive approach to treating symptoms. " Rational treatment consists of maintaining good general health -- in other words, a balanced diet and exercise as tolerated, and symptomatic relief of pain, sleep or mood disorders with carefully selected medications or cognitive behavioral therapy, " says Dr. Elgleberg. —Caralynhttp:// http://www.lis.net.au/~dbird/cfs.htm http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/wellandgood/2002issue2/chronicfatigue.h tml those are a few sites that list the difference… one of the most important aspects is to address the sleeping issue…I am sure there are many opinions as to what works for some people and not others but in treatment I think that is one thing the doctors try to address.. Care and Treatment Alternative Therapies Acupuncture and Chronic http://www.Acupuncture.com/Research/Maier.htm> Fatigue Syndrome - Acupuncture.com Treatment: http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/alternative-therapy.asp> Alternative Therapy - Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Vitamins, http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/book.asp?PageType=Book&ID=887> Minerals, and Herbs for Chronic Fatigue - Health World How Is Chronic Fatigue http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1680.50869> Syndrome Treated? - WebMD Treatment: Lifestyle - http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/lifestyle.asp> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatment: Medical - http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/medical.asp> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatment: http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/supportive-therapy.asp> Supportive Therapy - Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatments - CDC http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/cfs/treat.htm> Chronic http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=Article&ID=87 8> Fatigue Syndrome: Overview of Contributing Factors and Treatment Plan - Health World hope this might help in some way sincerely samantha Questionaire/Copy & Paste Questionaire Name: Age range: 40 Male/female: Female What are the symptoms?: Since I was 20 I have had extreme pain in my left shoulder. It was diagnosed as Bursitis. I knew this was not the correct diagnosis but just kept taking Motrin. I then developed pain/aching in both shoulders and behind my neck. This has been going on for 20 years as well. I have osteoarthritis in my knees and back. I have muscle stiffness constantly. Extreme fatigue at times, to the point where I have to just lie down or fall down, one or the other. Has your illness been diagnosed?: Not yet. How long did you suffer before you got help?: I had a Gastric Bypass 1/02 and have been taking two multivitamin's a day, extra B-12, Calcium, Vitamin D and E. This has helped a little. Is there a time that you can remember when it started?: At age 20. Have you found it hard to exercise, thus have you gained weight?: Yes. I had a Gastric Bypass in Jan. of 2002. I have lost 49 pounds thus far and have another forty to go. This has helped immensely. Are you on disability?: No. If you are any pointers for others trying to get on disability?: No. Have you made any discoveries that have helped with the pain?: Yes. I have a jacuzzi, which helps tremendously. Losing the weight has helped. Stretching exercises help as well. Do you have sleep problems? How do you deal with it?: I drink a tea made by Celestial Seasonings called, Sleeptytime Tea. I also take a Benedryl if I have a real big problem with sleep. Do you have family that understands your illness?: Yes, my mother also has osteoarthritis and has been diagnosed with FM. Some have found certain foods causes problems with CFS or Fibro, have you?: No. What type of Doctor have you found that has helped you the most?: Have not found a good doctor to help me, as of yet. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Hi there To try and enlighten on one question you asked.. What's in a Name: Fibro vs. CFS Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) share a number of symptoms, and the names are often used interchangeably in the medical literature. If you're confused about the difference between the syndromes, you're not alone. Even doctors are confused. Many experts, however, think fibromyalgia and CFS are the same -- or are at least variations of the same -- pain and fatigue syndrome. Research shows that between 50 percent and 70 percent of people with fibromyalgia also fit the criteria for CFS, and vice versa. Because the symptoms are so similar, the difference between one diagnosis and another may be simply a matter of degree. " Most patients with CFS have some kind of pain, and, of course, that is a hallmark of fibromyalgia. And most patients with fibromyalgia report fatigue -- a hallmark of CFS. Likewise, both involve a high frequency of sleep and cognitive disturbances, " says Cary Engleberg, MD, chief of the infectious diseases division at the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor. The diagnosis also may depend on whether your doctor is more familiar with the criteria for CFS, developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or those for fibromyalgia, developed by the American College of Rheumatology. There are a few documented differences between the conditions. Fibromyalgia often is traced to an injury or physical or emotional trauma, whereas CFS tends to have a flu-like onset. Researchers have found that people with fibromyalgia may have abnormal levels of several chemicals, such as substance P and serotonin, used by the body to transmit and respond to pain signals. Also, people with CFS only do not have tender points. These findings have led to different trends in research. Many fibromyalgia researchers have explored problems with pain transmission and pain amplification that may affect the condition. Researchers who study CFS have tended instead to investigate what role viruses may play in triggering CFS. Until researchers determine conclusively the fundamental biological, neurological and psychological differences between the syndromes, the diagnostic label makes little difference as long as both the physician and the patient take a comprehensive approach to treating symptoms. " Rational treatment consists of maintaining good general health -- in other words, a balanced diet and exercise as tolerated, and symptomatic relief of pain, sleep or mood disorders with carefully selected medications or cognitive behavioral therapy, " says Dr. Elgleberg. —Caralynhttp:// http://www.lis.net.au/~dbird/cfs.htm http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/wellandgood/2002issue2/chronicfatigue.h tml those are a few sites that list the difference… one of the most important aspects is to address the sleeping issue…I am sure there are many opinions as to what works for some people and not others but in treatment I think that is one thing the doctors try to address.. Care and Treatment Alternative Therapies Acupuncture and Chronic http://www.Acupuncture.com/Research/Maier.htm> Fatigue Syndrome - Acupuncture.com Treatment: http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/alternative-therapy.asp> Alternative Therapy - Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Vitamins, http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/book.asp?PageType=Book&ID=887> Minerals, and Herbs for Chronic Fatigue - Health World How Is Chronic Fatigue http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1680.50869> Syndrome Treated? - WebMD Treatment: Lifestyle - http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/lifestyle.asp> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatment: Medical - http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/medical.asp> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatment: http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/supportive-therapy.asp> Supportive Therapy - Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America Treatments - CDC http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/cfs/treat.htm> Chronic http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=Article&ID=87 8> Fatigue Syndrome: Overview of Contributing Factors and Treatment Plan - Health World hope this might help in some way sincerely samantha Questionaire/Copy & Paste Questionaire Name: Age range: 40 Male/female: Female What are the symptoms?: Since I was 20 I have had extreme pain in my left shoulder. It was diagnosed as Bursitis. I knew this was not the correct diagnosis but just kept taking Motrin. I then developed pain/aching in both shoulders and behind my neck. This has been going on for 20 years as well. I have osteoarthritis in my knees and back. I have muscle stiffness constantly. Extreme fatigue at times, to the point where I have to just lie down or fall down, one or the other. Has your illness been diagnosed?: Not yet. How long did you suffer before you got help?: I had a Gastric Bypass 1/02 and have been taking two multivitamin's a day, extra B-12, Calcium, Vitamin D and E. This has helped a little. Is there a time that you can remember when it started?: At age 20. Have you found it hard to exercise, thus have you gained weight?: Yes. I had a Gastric Bypass in Jan. of 2002. I have lost 49 pounds thus far and have another forty to go. This has helped immensely. Are you on disability?: No. If you are any pointers for others trying to get on disability?: No. Have you made any discoveries that have helped with the pain?: Yes. I have a jacuzzi, which helps tremendously. Losing the weight has helped. Stretching exercises help as well. Do you have sleep problems? How do you deal with it?: I drink a tea made by Celestial Seasonings called, Sleeptytime Tea. I also take a Benedryl if I have a real big problem with sleep. Do you have family that understands your illness?: Yes, my mother also has osteoarthritis and has been diagnosed with FM. Some have found certain foods causes problems with CFS or Fibro, have you?: No. What type of Doctor have you found that has helped you the most?: Have not found a good doctor to help me, as of yet. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Welcome and congratulations on your weight loss! Just pipe right up if you have questions, want to whine, or whatever! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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