RE: What can you tell me about intravascular liver biopsies?

[Guest guest]

Bobbi,

From what I can read it is a transjugular venous

biopsy. It is done for patients who may have a coagulation issue.

My last one was done this way. They make a cut in the right side of the

neck and insert a needle into the jugular vein and advance it into the liver

(hepatic vein). My physician told me he preferred these as they gave a

more representative sample than a standard biopsy. Actually I felt less

with this kind than the standard kind. I was awake through the entire

thing but drugged enough not to care. I had absolutely no pain. The

Interventional Radiologist who did the biopsy said that they are safer because

there is almost no possibility of bleeding.

Good luck to you and Chris.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bobbi

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009

2:15 PM

To:

Subject: What can

you tell me about intravascular liver biopsies?

I am know as the Queen of research. I like to be informed. However I

have not been able to find much of anything about this type of biopsy other

than it is through the hepatic vein. is having one tomorrow, assuming his

INR is better. The last time he had a liver biopsy, they did the standard one

through his side. Apparently this kind is less painful. I just wanna know what

they're gonna do to him. He, however has NO interest in knowing. He'll be

happily in a drug induced la la land.

[Guest guest]

Either one sounds completely unpleasant! I'll just be glad when they get it done

so they can give us SOME indication of what's going on and FIX it! I'm ready for

my husband to start healing!!!!

They drained 11 liters yesterday by the way!

[Guest guest]

My son also had a transjugular liver biopsy at the end of January. If we are correct in assuming this is the same as an intravascular biopsy, I can tell you that his experience was painless. While he was given sedation, he had to remain conscious because they told him when to take a deep breath, etc. He came out of it very well and said he felt no pain. They performed this type of biopsy because he was also considered a bleed risk.

We wish you all the best.

Theresa

Subject: Re: What can you tell me about intravascular liver biopsies?To: Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:42 AM

Either one sounds completely unpleasant! I'll just be glad when they get it done so they can give us SOME indication of what's going on and FIX it! I'm ready for my husband to start healing!!!!They drained 11 liters yesterday by the way!

[Guest guest]

My son also had a transjugular liver biopsy at the end of January. If we are correct in assuming this is the same as an intravascular biopsy, I can tell you that his experience was painless. While he was given sedation, he had to remain conscious because they told him when to take a deep breath, etc. He came out of it very well and said he felt no pain. They performed this type of biopsy because he was also considered a bleed risk.

We wish you all the best.

Theresa

Subject: Re: What can you tell me about intravascular liver biopsies?To: Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:42 AM

Either one sounds completely unpleasant! I'll just be glad when they get it done so they can give us SOME indication of what's going on and FIX it! I'm ready for my husband to start healing!!!!They drained 11 liters yesterday by the way!

[Guest guest]

My son also had a transjugular liver biopsy at the end of January. If we are correct in assuming this is the same as an intravascular biopsy, I can tell you that his experience was painless. While he was given sedation, he had to remain conscious because they told him when to take a deep breath, etc. He came out of it very well and said he felt no pain. They performed this type of biopsy because he was also considered a bleed risk.

We wish you all the best.

Theresa

Subject: Re: What can you tell me about intravascular liver biopsies?To: Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:42 AM

Either one sounds completely unpleasant! I'll just be glad when they get it done so they can give us SOME indication of what's going on and FIX it! I'm ready for my husband to start healing!!!!They drained 11 liters yesterday by the way!

[Guest guest]

-----Original

Message----- On Behalf Of Joe

Berry

The Interventional Radiologist who did

the biopsy said that they are safer because there is almost no possibility of

bleeding.

Ken had his 7-9th (maybe more) transjugular biopsy

this past week. No pain, but

believe me it can bleed! At one

point Ken turned his head and bright red shooting pulsating blood came pouring

out. Blood is pretty old school for

us now, so I remained sitting, reading the paper and betting my daughter I

could get the blood out of his T-shirt (I did!) The nurses moved fast and were able to stop

it before it became a real nasty problem. Still

the best way to go, no pain and because centers are doing more of them today

than years ago, it’s just as safe as traditional biopsy.

Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight

- Whatever it Takes!

Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 &

6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas

_,___

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. We're still waiting! He IS going to have the biopsy today

but they have to fit him so who knows when. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Poor guy's been NPO most of the week. His stepdad said he looks like a POW! He's

nothing but skin and bones. The good news is, all of his labs were much better.

He said the doctors seemed pretty happy with where they are now. I'll just be

glad to get the results of the biopsy. I'll keep you posted!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. We're still waiting! He IS going to have the biopsy today

but they have to fit him so who knows when. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Poor guy's been NPO most of the week. His stepdad said he looks like a POW! He's

nothing but skin and bones. The good news is, all of his labs were much better.

He said the doctors seemed pretty happy with where they are now. I'll just be

glad to get the results of the biopsy. I'll keep you posted!

[Guest guest]

Bobbi,I assume they are going into the liver through the veins because they have easier access through them because of his recent transplant? I don't know for sure, but that would be my guess!

Ian

I am know as the Queen of research. I like to be informed. However I have not been able to find much of anything about this type of biopsy other than it is through the hepatic vein. is having one tomorrow, assuming his INR is better. The last time he had a liver biopsy, they did the standard one through his side. Apparently this kind is less painful. I just wanna know what they're gonna do to him. He, however has NO interest in knowing. He'll be happily in a drug induced la la land.

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