Re: perimenopause or hypo?

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In a message dated 3/7/2005 6:47:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gnattygrl@... writes:

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> >too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period

just noticed this one...yes...i have noticed " extended but light bleeding "

the last two months...what did yall decide this was? and this month...overdue

by a week....or either FINALLY missing a period.

almost 50,

cindi

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In a message dated 3/7/2005 6:47:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gnattygrl@... writes:

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> >too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period

just noticed this one...yes...i have noticed " extended but light bleeding "

the last two months...what did yall decide this was? and this month...overdue

by a week....or either FINALLY missing a period.

almost 50,

cindi

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In a message dated 3/7/2005 6:47:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gnattygrl@... writes:

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> >too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period

just noticed this one...yes...i have noticed " extended but light bleeding "

the last two months...what did yall decide this was? and this month...overdue

by a week....or either FINALLY missing a period.

almost 50,

cindi

[Guest guest]

I can sure identify! In my situation, I do know that what I am

experiencing is peri, because my temp is wonderful, and my thyroid

labs are wonderful. It could be helpful for you to do the free T3,

and a progesterone and estrogen lab. I found my progesterone LOW

compared to a HIGH estrogen, and that made me feel awful beginning

in December--achiness, fatigue. I'm now up to 200 mg. progesterone,

and need more. I am STILL a little achy....but progress is at hand.

Also, 2 1/4 grains Armour is not a very optimal dose. Why not try

inching your way up to 3 grains or so....and see. I am now at 3 1/4

grains. I used to think that 2 1/4 grains was great......until I

upped. Viola. Even more benefits.

You might also check out your testosterone levels--that can make a

difference.

Janie

>

> O.K. all you girls who are further along than me: How do you tell

> if you are having period problems from peri or from thyroid?

>

> I have been tinkering with my Armour dose since forever...In

> December I was at 2 1/2, started adrenal supplementation and felt

> hyper within a month so dropped down to 2 1/4. Spent the month of

> January gradually feeling poorer and poorer (depression, weight

> gain, yada yada). Dropped the adrenal glandulars, because I

figured

> out they were making me hyper and switched over to only Cortef,

> 12mg/ a day divided. Had good response to this, mostly

improvement

> in nerve and muscle pain, better sleep. For the last couple weeks

> again have felt poorer, depression, not sleeping as well, getting

up

> to pee at night, waking up stiff and groggy. Remembered that

since

> I changed my Armour in January and have been on Cortef and no

> glandulars I have had problems with spotting AFTER my period, my

> period just sort of goes on lightly for about a total of 8 or nine

> days. Then this cycle, I had this same pattern and I got my

period

> after only 15 days of a cycle. I have been so dark in my mood my

> husband told me to increase my Armour, which I did, and

immediately

> felt better. HELP!! Is this peri or is this hypo? Oh, my 50th

> birthday is in a couple months.

>

> R.

[Guest guest]

I can sure identify! In my situation, I do know that what I am

experiencing is peri, because my temp is wonderful, and my thyroid

labs are wonderful. It could be helpful for you to do the free T3,

and a progesterone and estrogen lab. I found my progesterone LOW

compared to a HIGH estrogen, and that made me feel awful beginning

in December--achiness, fatigue. I'm now up to 200 mg. progesterone,

and need more. I am STILL a little achy....but progress is at hand.

Also, 2 1/4 grains Armour is not a very optimal dose. Why not try

inching your way up to 3 grains or so....and see. I am now at 3 1/4

grains. I used to think that 2 1/4 grains was great......until I

upped. Viola. Even more benefits.

You might also check out your testosterone levels--that can make a

difference.

Janie

>

> O.K. all you girls who are further along than me: How do you tell

> if you are having period problems from peri or from thyroid?

>

> I have been tinkering with my Armour dose since forever...In

> December I was at 2 1/2, started adrenal supplementation and felt

> hyper within a month so dropped down to 2 1/4. Spent the month of

> January gradually feeling poorer and poorer (depression, weight

> gain, yada yada). Dropped the adrenal glandulars, because I

figured

> out they were making me hyper and switched over to only Cortef,

> 12mg/ a day divided. Had good response to this, mostly

improvement

> in nerve and muscle pain, better sleep. For the last couple weeks

> again have felt poorer, depression, not sleeping as well, getting

up

> to pee at night, waking up stiff and groggy. Remembered that

since

> I changed my Armour in January and have been on Cortef and no

> glandulars I have had problems with spotting AFTER my period, my

> period just sort of goes on lightly for about a total of 8 or nine

> days. Then this cycle, I had this same pattern and I got my

period

> after only 15 days of a cycle. I have been so dark in my mood my

> husband told me to increase my Armour, which I did, and

immediately

> felt better. HELP!! Is this peri or is this hypo? Oh, my 50th

> birthday is in a couple months.

>

> R.

[Guest guest]

I can sure identify! In my situation, I do know that what I am

experiencing is peri, because my temp is wonderful, and my thyroid

labs are wonderful. It could be helpful for you to do the free T3,

and a progesterone and estrogen lab. I found my progesterone LOW

compared to a HIGH estrogen, and that made me feel awful beginning

in December--achiness, fatigue. I'm now up to 200 mg. progesterone,

and need more. I am STILL a little achy....but progress is at hand.

Also, 2 1/4 grains Armour is not a very optimal dose. Why not try

inching your way up to 3 grains or so....and see. I am now at 3 1/4

grains. I used to think that 2 1/4 grains was great......until I

upped. Viola. Even more benefits.

You might also check out your testosterone levels--that can make a

difference.

Janie

>

> O.K. all you girls who are further along than me: How do you tell

> if you are having period problems from peri or from thyroid?

>

> I have been tinkering with my Armour dose since forever...In

> December I was at 2 1/2, started adrenal supplementation and felt

> hyper within a month so dropped down to 2 1/4. Spent the month of

> January gradually feeling poorer and poorer (depression, weight

> gain, yada yada). Dropped the adrenal glandulars, because I

figured

> out they were making me hyper and switched over to only Cortef,

> 12mg/ a day divided. Had good response to this, mostly

improvement

> in nerve and muscle pain, better sleep. For the last couple weeks

> again have felt poorer, depression, not sleeping as well, getting

up

> to pee at night, waking up stiff and groggy. Remembered that

since

> I changed my Armour in January and have been on Cortef and no

> glandulars I have had problems with spotting AFTER my period, my

> period just sort of goes on lightly for about a total of 8 or nine

> days. Then this cycle, I had this same pattern and I got my

period

> after only 15 days of a cycle. I have been so dark in my mood my

> husband told me to increase my Armour, which I did, and

immediately

> felt better. HELP!! Is this peri or is this hypo? Oh, my 50th

> birthday is in a couple months.

>

> R.

[Guest guest]

Yes, progesterone, estrogen, FT3, testosterone are all good bets for

labs - I'd throw in Vit D and B12, especially if you're not taking

any as supplements.

Nat

>

> I can sure identify! In my situation, I do know that what I am

> experiencing is peri, because my temp is wonderful, and my thyroid

> labs are wonderful. It could be helpful for you to do the free T3,

> and a progesterone and estrogen lab. I found my progesterone LOW

> compared to a HIGH estrogen, and that made me feel awful beginning

> in December--achiness, fatigue. I'm now up to 200 mg.

progesterone,

> and need more. I am STILL a little achy....but progress is at hand.

>

> Also, 2 1/4 grains Armour is not a very optimal dose. Why not try

> inching your way up to 3 grains or so....and see. I am now at 3

1/4

> grains. I used to think that 2 1/4 grains was great......until I

> upped. Viola. Even more benefits.

>

> You might also check out your testosterone levels--that can make a

> difference.

>

> Janie

>

> >

> > O.K. all you girls who are further along than me: How do you

tell

> > if you are having period problems from peri or from thyroid?

> >

> > I have been tinkering with my Armour dose since forever...In

> > December I was at 2 1/2, started adrenal supplementation and

felt

> > hyper within a month so dropped down to 2 1/4. Spent the month

of

> > January gradually feeling poorer and poorer (depression, weight

> > gain, yada yada). Dropped the adrenal glandulars, because I

> figured

> > out they were making me hyper and switched over to only Cortef,

> > 12mg/ a day divided. Had good response to this, mostly

> improvement

> > in nerve and muscle pain, better sleep. For the last couple

weeks

> > again have felt poorer, depression, not sleeping as well,

getting

> up

> > to pee at night, waking up stiff and groggy. Remembered that

> since

> > I changed my Armour in January and have been on Cortef and no

> > glandulars I have had problems with spotting AFTER my period, my

> > period just sort of goes on lightly for about a total of 8 or

nine

> > days. Then this cycle, I had this same pattern and I got my

> period

> > after only 15 days of a cycle. I have been so dark in my mood

my

> > husband told me to increase my Armour, which I did, and

> immediately

> > felt better. HELP!! Is this peri or is this hypo? Oh, my 50th

> > birthday is in a couple months.

> >

> > R.

[Guest guest]

Yes, progesterone, estrogen, FT3, testosterone are all good bets for

labs - I'd throw in Vit D and B12, especially if you're not taking

any as supplements.

Nat

>

> I can sure identify! In my situation, I do know that what I am

> experiencing is peri, because my temp is wonderful, and my thyroid

> labs are wonderful. It could be helpful for you to do the free T3,

> and a progesterone and estrogen lab. I found my progesterone LOW

> compared to a HIGH estrogen, and that made me feel awful beginning

> in December--achiness, fatigue. I'm now up to 200 mg.

progesterone,

> and need more. I am STILL a little achy....but progress is at hand.

>

> Also, 2 1/4 grains Armour is not a very optimal dose. Why not try

> inching your way up to 3 grains or so....and see. I am now at 3

1/4

> grains. I used to think that 2 1/4 grains was great......until I

> upped. Viola. Even more benefits.

>

> You might also check out your testosterone levels--that can make a

> difference.

>

> Janie

>

> >

> > O.K. all you girls who are further along than me: How do you

tell

> > if you are having period problems from peri or from thyroid?

> >

> > I have been tinkering with my Armour dose since forever...In

> > December I was at 2 1/2, started adrenal supplementation and

felt

> > hyper within a month so dropped down to 2 1/4. Spent the month

of

> > January gradually feeling poorer and poorer (depression, weight

> > gain, yada yada). Dropped the adrenal glandulars, because I

> figured

> > out they were making me hyper and switched over to only Cortef,

> > 12mg/ a day divided. Had good response to this, mostly

> improvement

> > in nerve and muscle pain, better sleep. For the last couple

weeks

> > again have felt poorer, depression, not sleeping as well,

getting

> up

> > to pee at night, waking up stiff and groggy. Remembered that

> since

> > I changed my Armour in January and have been on Cortef and no

> > glandulars I have had problems with spotting AFTER my period, my

> > period just sort of goes on lightly for about a total of 8 or

nine

> > days. Then this cycle, I had this same pattern and I got my

> period

> > after only 15 days of a cycle. I have been so dark in my mood

my

> > husband told me to increase my Armour, which I did, and

> immediately

> > felt better. HELP!! Is this peri or is this hypo? Oh, my 50th

> > birthday is in a couple months.

> >

> > R.

[Guest guest]

Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period? I

think I am probably still not on enough Armour, as I had an

immediate response to increasing (probably need the T3) Up til now,

my estrogen and progesterone have been o.k,, my testosterone is

historically borderline, and my labs didn't look too bad the last

couple times. It seems somehow related to the Cortef allowing me or

making me need more Armour, but also probably my age. I think I

will get the hormones checked again. I do supplement with B12 and D,

and a ton of other things.

R.

>

> Yes, progesterone, estrogen, FT3, testosterone are all good bets

for

> labs - I'd throw in Vit D and B12, especially if you're not taking

> any as supplements.

>

> Nat

[Guest guest]

>

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period? I

> think I am probably still not on enough Armour, as I had an

> immediate response to increasing (probably need the T3) Up til

now,

> my estrogen and progesterone have been o.k,, my testosterone is

> historically borderline, and my labs didn't look too bad the last

> couple times. It seems somehow related to the Cortef allowing me

or

> making me need more Armour, but also probably my age. I think I

> will get the hormones checked again. I do supplement with B12 and

D,

> and a ton of other things.

>

> R.

, in that case it's probably not enough Armour. I do get the

light period, more spotting than anything after day 1, but in my

case it's due to low progesterone (as in menopausal levels at 38 yrs

old). My cycles are horrifically long though - low estrogen - to

the tune of about 36 days.

Nat

[Guest guest]

>

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period? I

> think I am probably still not on enough Armour, as I had an

> immediate response to increasing (probably need the T3) Up til

now,

> my estrogen and progesterone have been o.k,, my testosterone is

> historically borderline, and my labs didn't look too bad the last

> couple times. It seems somehow related to the Cortef allowing me

or

> making me need more Armour, but also probably my age. I think I

> will get the hormones checked again. I do supplement with B12 and

D,

> and a ton of other things.

>

> R.

, in that case it's probably not enough Armour. I do get the

light period, more spotting than anything after day 1, but in my

case it's due to low progesterone (as in menopausal levels at 38 yrs

old). My cycles are horrifically long though - low estrogen - to

the tune of about 36 days.

Nat

[Guest guest]

>

> Janie and Nat, have you had any bleeding issues like I have had?

> too short cycles, extended but light bleeding after a period? I

> think I am probably still not on enough Armour, as I had an

> immediate response to increasing (probably need the T3) Up til

now,

> my estrogen and progesterone have been o.k,, my testosterone is

> historically borderline, and my labs didn't look too bad the last

> couple times. It seems somehow related to the Cortef allowing me

or

> making me need more Armour, but also probably my age. I think I

> will get the hormones checked again. I do supplement with B12 and

D,

> and a ton of other things.

>

> R.

, in that case it's probably not enough Armour. I do get the

light period, more spotting than anything after day 1, but in my

case it's due to low progesterone (as in menopausal levels at 38 yrs

old). My cycles are horrifically long though - low estrogen - to

the tune of about 36 days.

Nat