RE: mostly raw vegetarian diet: very long....

[Guest guest]

Peace to all,

I have been a vegetarian, officially, since 1982. I gave up meat for

several reasons, though I was never much of a meat eater, the main reason

was philosophical/spiritual, which I will not go into as I understand is not

a topic for discussion on this list. Another big reason was I did not want

fill my body hormones and antibiotics that are administered to meat animals.

Dh tried a vegetarian diet until he decided he would take responsibility of

cooking because I refused to cook meat. He did not do well on it. As a

nurse I have counseled many patients on diet. Their first question is

usually what diet I follow since I am so thin. I tell them I am vegetarian

but do not advise others to follow this diet unless they are committed to

follow this path. There is a lot to learn about vegetarian diets to be

followed correctly. Most people do not want to put more thought in to their

meals than pulling a microwavable dinner out of the freezer and lifestyles

are hard to change. I also caution people that do decide to go vegetarian

to do it slowly. Most will find cutting down to small amounts of fish or

chicken a couple times a week work best for them.

My mother is also a vegetarian. Neither of us eat meat of any kind but

while I am 5'10 " and 125 lbs. She is about 5'4 " and weighs well over 200

lbs. The difference is that she tends to snack quite a bit and lives a

sedentary life since she retired. She sits at her computer most of the day

and rarely gets out for exercise.

Naturopathy teaches us there are many factors to living a healthy life, a

diet of living foods alone is not the only answer. Fresh air, fresh water,

exercise, rest all play a role. But each step brings us closer to our goal.

Being newly diagnosed I have several questions for the group. All my

training as a nurse and student of naturopathy does not help when you are

trying to get through the day in pain. I know what I am supposed to do but

knowing and finding the energy and courage to do are completely different

things. I am a very optimistic person. I have fought my young life proving

doctors wrong when they predicted my passing from this life and I have

experienced severe pain. The difference is you generally know that no

matter how severe the pain, it will pass and you are able to work through

it. Unfortunately with fibromyalgia there is no real treatment to follow

knowing that in a certain period of time the pain will resolve and you will

be healthy again. I am not subject to depression but I can certainly see

how this can wear one down to the point of feeling hopeless. I keep telling

myself that I have to find a way to deal because I am only 44 years young

and I still have half my life ahead of me.

I would love to hear from the group what keeps you hopeful? What things

help you find the energy to go on?

For me it is my animals, gardening, spinning and weaving. These bring great

joy in my life, along with caring for my dh, who needs little care

physically, but creating a nice peaceful place for him to come home to.

As I said I am not at the point of feeling hopeless but after a few years of

waking up in pain and going to bed in pain, never any relief I pray that I

will not reach the stage of just not wanting to deal and taking to bed or

something just as drastic. It is pretty scary to think that this could go

on for another 40 years. But still as long as it does not get worse than it

is now I think I could deal with it.

My mother has been after me for years to go on disability. Open heart

surgery corrected the congenital defects but my heart will never be normal,

that along with congenital defects in the back, a herniated disc and now

this diagnosis she asks me nearly every day if I think I should go on

disability. My answer to her is no. I feel if I were to think about doing

that then I would give up.

I hope this was not too long. I know you all have probably heard stories

like this many times. I would like to say that I appreciate the opportunity

this forum affords those of us newly diagnosed and full of questions.

Breathe and :-)

myrrhsea ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~

MyrrhSea FibreCraft

http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

-----Original Message-----

From: parrot004@...

What a great idea! A veg diet for all!

[Guest guest]

Depression can be hard to deal with, for about 2 weeks

all I did was mope around the house. I would read a

story about someone's history with fibro at work on

the internet, and just break down crying. But as my

General Doctor said, prayer helps alot. But also

believe it or not, these support groups have helped me

realize that I am not alone either in this pain, there

are others that have proved that you can live through

this and be happy. MIND OVER BODY... I have read into

this therapy and when I feel myself getting depressed,

I am usually feeling sorry for myself, which is easy

to do if you let yourself. But my children need a

mother. They need me as their mother to guide them to

the Good and positive things in life. I also find

quiet calming times, weeding my flower and vegetable

garden. Something about playing with the dirt,

creating a garden in my mind and making it look like I

vision is my goals, I've had to not work on it when I

get really bad flare ups, but I had to tell myself

that tomorrow will be better and I can fix it

tomorrow.

I hope anything I said will help answer your

questions.

My prayers are with you,

a Faye

--- ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~

myrrhsea@...> wrote:

> Peace to all,

>

> I have been a vegetarian, officially, since 1982. I

> gave up meat for

> several reasons, though I was never much of a meat

> eater, the main reason

> was philosophical/spiritual, which I will not go

> into as I understand is not

> a topic for discussion on this list. Another big

> reason was I did not want

> fill my body hormones and antibiotics that are

> administered to meat animals.

>

> Dh tried a vegetarian diet until he decided he would

> take responsibility of

> cooking because I refused to cook meat. He did not

> do well on it. As a

> nurse I have counseled many patients on diet. Their

> first question is

> usually what diet I follow since I am so thin. I

> tell them I am vegetarian

> but do not advise others to follow this diet unless

> they are committed to

> follow this path. There is a lot to learn about

> vegetarian diets to be

> followed correctly. Most people do not want to put

> more thought in to their

> meals than pulling a microwavable dinner out of the

> freezer and lifestyles

> are hard to change. I also caution people that do

> decide to go vegetarian

> to do it slowly. Most will find cutting down to

> small amounts of fish or

> chicken a couple times a week work best for them.

>

> My mother is also a vegetarian. Neither of us eat

> meat of any kind but

> while I am 5'10 " and 125 lbs. She is about 5'4 " and

> weighs well over 200

> lbs. The difference is that she tends to snack

> quite a bit and lives a

> sedentary life since she retired. She sits at her

> computer most of the day

> and rarely gets out for exercise.

>

> Naturopathy teaches us there are many factors to

> living a healthy life, a

> diet of living foods alone is not the only answer.

> Fresh air, fresh water,

> exercise, rest all play a role. But each step

> brings us closer to our goal.

>

> Being newly diagnosed I have several questions for

> the group. All my

> training as a nurse and student of naturopathy does

> not help when you are

> trying to get through the day in pain. I know what

> I am supposed to do but

> knowing and finding the energy and courage to do are

> completely different

> things. I am a very optimistic person. I have

> fought my young life proving

> doctors wrong when they predicted my passing from

> this life and I have

> experienced severe pain. The difference is you

> generally know that no

> matter how severe the pain, it will pass and you are

> able to work through

> it. Unfortunately with fibromyalgia there is no

> real treatment to follow

> knowing that in a certain period of time the pain

> will resolve and you will

> be healthy again. I am not subject to depression

> but I can certainly see

> how this can wear one down to the point of feeling

> hopeless. I keep telling

> myself that I have to find a way to deal because I

> am only 44 years young

> and I still have half my life ahead of me.

>

> I would love to hear from the group what keeps you

> hopeful? What things

> help you find the energy to go on?

>

> For me it is my animals, gardening, spinning and

> weaving. These bring great

> joy in my life, along with caring for my dh, who

> needs little care

> physically, but creating a nice peaceful place for

> him to come home to.

>

> As I said I am not at the point of feeling hopeless

> but after a few years of

> waking up in pain and going to bed in pain, never

> any relief I pray that I

> will not reach the stage of just not wanting to deal

> and taking to bed or

> something just as drastic. It is pretty scary to

> think that this could go

> on for another 40 years. But still as long as it

> does not get worse than it

> is now I think I could deal with it.

>

> My mother has been after me for years to go on

> disability. Open heart

> surgery corrected the congenital defects but my

> heart will never be normal,

> that along with congenital defects in the back, a

> herniated disc and now

> this diagnosis she asks me nearly every day if I

> think I should go on

> disability. My answer to her is no. I feel if I

> were to think about doing

> that then I would give up.

>

> I hope this was not too long. I know you all have

> probably heard stories

> like this many times. I would like to say that I

> appreciate the opportunity

> this forum affords those of us newly diagnosed and

> full of questions.

>

> Breathe and :-)

> myrrhsea ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~

> MyrrhSea FibreCraft

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

> .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

> She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

> with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: parrot004@...

>

> What a great idea! A veg diet for all!

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Depression can be hard to deal with, for about 2 weeks

all I did was mope around the house. I would read a

story about someone's history with fibro at work on

the internet, and just break down crying. But as my

General Doctor said, prayer helps alot. But also

believe it or not, these support groups have helped me

realize that I am not alone either in this pain, there

are others that have proved that you can live through

this and be happy. MIND OVER BODY... I have read into

this therapy and when I feel myself getting depressed,

I am usually feeling sorry for myself, which is easy

to do if you let yourself. But my children need a

mother. They need me as their mother to guide them to

the Good and positive things in life. I also find

quiet calming times, weeding my flower and vegetable

garden. Something about playing with the dirt,

creating a garden in my mind and making it look like I

vision is my goals, I've had to not work on it when I

get really bad flare ups, but I had to tell myself

that tomorrow will be better and I can fix it

tomorrow.

I hope anything I said will help answer your

questions.

My prayers are with you,

a Faye

--- ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~

myrrhsea@...> wrote:

> Peace to all,

>

> I have been a vegetarian, officially, since 1982. I

> gave up meat for

> several reasons, though I was never much of a meat

> eater, the main reason

> was philosophical/spiritual, which I will not go

> into as I understand is not

> a topic for discussion on this list. Another big

> reason was I did not want

> fill my body hormones and antibiotics that are

> administered to meat animals.

>

> Dh tried a vegetarian diet until he decided he would

> take responsibility of

> cooking because I refused to cook meat. He did not

> do well on it. As a

> nurse I have counseled many patients on diet. Their

> first question is

> usually what diet I follow since I am so thin. I

> tell them I am vegetarian

> but do not advise others to follow this diet unless

> they are committed to

> follow this path. There is a lot to learn about

> vegetarian diets to be

> followed correctly. Most people do not want to put

> more thought in to their

> meals than pulling a microwavable dinner out of the

> freezer and lifestyles

> are hard to change. I also caution people that do

> decide to go vegetarian

> to do it slowly. Most will find cutting down to

> small amounts of fish or

> chicken a couple times a week work best for them.

>

> My mother is also a vegetarian. Neither of us eat

> meat of any kind but

> while I am 5'10 " and 125 lbs. She is about 5'4 " and

> weighs well over 200

> lbs. The difference is that she tends to snack

> quite a bit and lives a

> sedentary life since she retired. She sits at her

> computer most of the day

> and rarely gets out for exercise.

>

> Naturopathy teaches us there are many factors to

> living a healthy life, a

> diet of living foods alone is not the only answer.

> Fresh air, fresh water,

> exercise, rest all play a role. But each step

> brings us closer to our goal.

>

> Being newly diagnosed I have several questions for

> the group. All my

> training as a nurse and student of naturopathy does

> not help when you are

> trying to get through the day in pain. I know what

> I am supposed to do but

> knowing and finding the energy and courage to do are

> completely different

> things. I am a very optimistic person. I have

> fought my young life proving

> doctors wrong when they predicted my passing from

> this life and I have

> experienced severe pain. The difference is you

> generally know that no

> matter how severe the pain, it will pass and you are

> able to work through

> it. Unfortunately with fibromyalgia there is no

> real treatment to follow

> knowing that in a certain period of time the pain

> will resolve and you will

> be healthy again. I am not subject to depression

> but I can certainly see

> how this can wear one down to the point of feeling

> hopeless. I keep telling

> myself that I have to find a way to deal because I

> am only 44 years young

> and I still have half my life ahead of me.

>

> I would love to hear from the group what keeps you

> hopeful? What things

> help you find the energy to go on?

>

> For me it is my animals, gardening, spinning and

> weaving. These bring great

> joy in my life, along with caring for my dh, who

> needs little care

> physically, but creating a nice peaceful place for

> him to come home to.

>

> As I said I am not at the point of feeling hopeless

> but after a few years of

> waking up in pain and going to bed in pain, never

> any relief I pray that I

> will not reach the stage of just not wanting to deal

> and taking to bed or

> something just as drastic. It is pretty scary to

> think that this could go

> on for another 40 years. But still as long as it

> does not get worse than it

> is now I think I could deal with it.

>

> My mother has been after me for years to go on

> disability. Open heart

> surgery corrected the congenital defects but my

> heart will never be normal,

> that along with congenital defects in the back, a

> herniated disc and now

> this diagnosis she asks me nearly every day if I

> think I should go on

> disability. My answer to her is no. I feel if I

> were to think about doing

> that then I would give up.

>

> I hope this was not too long. I know you all have

> probably heard stories

> like this many times. I would like to say that I

> appreciate the opportunity

> this forum affords those of us newly diagnosed and

> full of questions.

>

> Breathe and :-)

> myrrhsea ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~

> MyrrhSea FibreCraft

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

> .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

> She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

> with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: parrot004@...

>

> What a great idea! A veg diet for all!

>

>

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