Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 In a message dated 08/29/2002 3:58:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time, laurafernando@... writes: > Having fibro has taught me to say " no " You would think having Fibro would teach me this too, but I think its made it worse...in a sence...that everyone is expecting me to not be able to do something, so I feel like I have to prove them wrong to do it..sometimes..not all the time..if they wanted me to pick up a 20 lb rock I'd tell em hell no...but simple things...I feel I have to do them...especially people whom I love and care for. I personally agree with the body, mind, spirit....the reason I say this...is because when I decided to go " no mail " a year ago...I started to heal my spirit and to feel better about myself mentally..and I started to feel better physically as well....I also start feeling TONS worse when I'm stressed...I'm convienced thats why I'm in the HUGE flare I'm in right now.....I've got a b/f that causes stress, bills waaayyyy past due...and no money...so therefore I've got a million, billion people call'n me want'n money.. As was stated before this is my experince only..not trying to pass anything or pound anything into anyone's head...just my experiences being told ;o) Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Hello , I have CFS. I can really relate to your bit about the childhood abuse. I always wanted to make everyone happy too. Or try to save people (like my mother) from alcoholism. In my case I often wonder if my health problems, especially my asthma, stem from the environment I grew up in. My mother drank and smoked when she was pregnant with me. As a child I was exposed to cigarrette smoke and marijuanna smoke. I often wonder if I'd be healthy if my mother didn't treat her body bad when she was carrying me. Well even if I knew the answer I can't change the past and I guess I'm lucky I'm more or less normal as there are worse things that can happen to people who's mothers drank while they were pregnant. I suffer from the suicidality sometimes. I don't think about it daily like I used to, but when I have a really bad day the thoughts creep into my mind. How did you manage to give up your suicidality? ~Jen I thought the post about what people have to gain from their sickness is very interesting. I'll give 2 examples how I've felt this impact in my life. Last summer, I was going through a very dark period in my life and was in and out of suicidality. My psychiatrist and I had several discussions about what I gained from being suicidal. What I gained was having that " quick fix. " As a recovering bulemic and alcoholic who was clean/abstinent for the first time since I was 8 - I knew the answer. Suicidality had become my drug of choice. As I gave up my suicidality, I was forced to learn how to deal with day to day life without any easy outs. I am also a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. My *theory* about why I (and no one else) have fibro is that it is a result of all the physical and emotional trauma held in my body. As an ultimate people pleaser, I kept running myself into the ground. I could never make room to heal. I could not say " no " to people - especially those I loved. Having fibro has taught me to say " no " and it has opened up the doors for me to allow others to take care of me (I was always the caretaker.) As I find ways to manage my fibro, I risk other people beginning to expect more of me. My personal challenge is learning to say " no " simply b/c I want to and not b/c I'm too tired, too achy, etc. Does this mean fibro is all in my head? Well, in my view, yes (kind of.) I'm a firm believer that body, mind and spirit cannot be seperated. How we think about ourselves - how we love - or don't love - ourselves influences how we feel in our physical bodies. As I'm learning to love myself and heal from old wounds, I find my fibro is more easily managed. As I get sucked into vortices of stress, I find my fibro worsens. I want to make sure to qualify the above my saying it is *my opinion* -- it is what works for *me*. Take what you want and leave the rest. There are as many paths to healing as there are people on the journey. Thanks for " listening " , --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Jen & I have CFS/Fibro/Hypoglycemia and I can relate to both of you because I went through similar things an alcoholic mother who also smoked cigs/pot/ and drank while pregnant w/ me, physically/mentally abusive step father, being molested by a close non blood related realtive, just a lot of mental and physical abuse and I always held everything in all my life and have had suicidal periods. I too always tried to please everyone and still do, I feel extremely guilty if I lay down to rest or anything. I just for some reason feel I don't deserve to, but thats my moms doing because she always said that I was selfish/lazy/and I thought the world revolved around me, so it is like I am trying to prove something somehow by depriving myself of what I need. Anyway sorry to babble/ramble I seem to go off on tangents and forget the point I am trying to get at which is that I know where you are coming from and I too think that a lot of my problems come from the way I deal with the world around me as well as how I have taken care of myself inside and out. I have neglected myself mentally and spiritually long enough and now my body is shutting down , I guess it is a wake up call. Re: What I gain from having Fibro Hello , I have CFS. I can really relate to your bit about the childhood abuse. I always wanted to make everyone happy too. Or try to save people (like my mother) from alcoholism. In my case I often wonder if my health problems, especially my asthma, stem from the environment I grew up in. My mother drank and smoked when she was pregnant with me. As a child I was exposed to cigarrette smoke and marijuanna smoke. I often wonder if I'd be healthy if my mother didn't treat her body bad when she was carrying me. Well even if I knew the answer I can't change the past and I guess I'm lucky I'm more or less normal as there are worse things that can happen to people who's mothers drank while they were pregnant. I suffer from the suicidality sometimes. I don't think about it daily like I used to, but when I have a really bad day the thoughts creep into my mind. How did you manage to give up your suicidality? ~Jen I thought the post about what people have to gain from their sickness is very interesting. I'll give 2 examples how I've felt this impact in my life. Last summer, I was going through a very dark period in my life and was in and out of suicidality. My psychiatrist and I had several discussions about what I gained from being suicidal. What I gained was having that " quick fix. " As a recovering bulemic and alcoholic who was clean/abstinent for the first time since I was 8 - I knew the answer. Suicidality had become my drug of choice. As I gave up my suicidality, I was forced to learn how to deal with day to day life without any easy outs. I am also a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. My *theory* about why I (and no one else) have fibro is that it is a result of all the physical and emotional trauma held in my body. As an ultimate people pleaser, I kept running myself into the ground. I could never make room to heal. I could not say " no " to people - especially those I loved. Having fibro has taught me to say " no " and it has opened up the doors for me to allow others to take care of me (I was always the caretaker.) As I find ways to manage my fibro, I risk other people beginning to expect more of me. My personal challenge is learning to say " no " simply b/c I want to and not b/c I'm too tired, too achy, etc. Does this mean fibro is all in my head? Well, in my view, yes (kind of.) I'm a firm believer that body, mind and spirit cannot be seperated. How we think about ourselves - how we love - or don't love - ourselves influences how we feel in our physical bodies. As I'm learning to love myself and heal from old wounds, I find my fibro is more easily managed. As I get sucked into vortices of stress, I find my fibro worsens. I want to make sure to qualify the above my saying it is *my opinion* -- it is what works for *me*. Take what you want and leave the rest. There are as many paths to healing as there are people on the journey. Thanks for " listening " , --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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