RE: Re: copper in water

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But blue urine can have other causes:

Whoops A Daisy!

His water - from the sink or tub ;-) left a blue stain.

Barb

in Texas

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Thank you for the information and I will pass it to . However I think my email was confusing after I went back and read it. I did not mean his urine was blue, I meant the toilet bowl water was blue and the shower water leaves a blue stain in the bathtub. Sorry for the confusion, but I sent him the name of a guy we used to check our water after we had a well drilled at our cabin. We wanted to be so careful about the water especially with 's condition we had a filtration system installed too. He has his own house though and this copper stuff is worrisome.

He is getting ready for a routine doctor appointment soon. I've been after him to make the doctor give him certain test like cholesterol, etc. What are some of the test you would recommend he have done. Osteopenia? What else? We live in different states so the days of me going with him to the doctor are over, but I still try to "guide".

About all his gastro doctor does are the basic liver function test, but in my gut I feel like he needs more. If it were your son what would you request in the way of test?

Thanks ever so much.

Terry

Re: copper in water

Hi ;

Glad to hear that your son will be having his water checked. Yes,

copper can accumulate in liver diseases such as PSC.

http://www.psc-literature.org/hepCu.htm

But blue urine can have other causes:

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The Significance of Abnormal Urine Color

Martha K. Terris, M.D.

Assistant Professor of Urology

Chief of Urology, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System

http://urology.stanford.edu/about/articles/abnormal_urine.html

BLUE / GREEN

Blue or green urine may be caused by a blue dye such as methylene

blue, a component in several medications (Trac Tabs, Urised, Uroblue)

used to reduce symptoms of bladder inflammation or irritation (1,6).

Administration of the dye, indigo carmine, turns the urine green and

can last for several days if renal function is poor. While more often

reported to cause pink urine, the anesthetic, propofol, has also been

reported to cause green coloration of the urine (11). Amitriptyline,

indomethacin, resorcinol, triamterine, cimetidine, phenergan, and

several multivitamins also lend a blue-green tint to the urine (6).

An inherited form of high calcium (called "familial hypercalcemia")

can result in blue urine, which has lent this disease the

nickname "blue diaper syndrome" (12). Another metabolic disorder,

indicanuria, can cause blue urine due to tryptophan indole

metabolites (12).

A blue pigment may also be produced by infection with the bacteria

Pseudomonas (1,2). Dark green pigmentation, especially if associated

with air (known as "pneumaturia"), urinary tract infection, and/or

solid particles in the urine, can be caused by bile when there is a

fistula between the urinary tract the intestines.

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Best regards,

Dave

(father of (23); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03)

> Does anyone know if too much copper in your water can have an

effect on liver and gastro diseases. My son has PSC and UC and is

having his water checked. It leaves a blue stain wherever it drips

and in the toilet. He doesn't drink the stuff, uses a filter, but

also since he moved into this house is when he noticed considerable

hair loss. Does anyone think there could be a connection?

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had a bone density test done this year, which showed osteopenia. It has been a good incentive for him to increase the calcium intake. The "Adora" calcium has become an easy way for both of us to be sure we get enough calcium (plus the nice chocolate treat).

Joanne H

(, Ca., mom of , 18, UC/PSC 2-06; JRA 98)

Dear ;I think that this year we would like to suggest that he have his fat soluble vitamin levels checked (vitamins A, D, E and K), and suggest that he have a bone density scan. But, we don't want to overdo the tests, as he seems quite stable at the moment. It sounds like you are also concerned about your son's bone density and osteopenia? Best regards,Dave (father of (23); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03)