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ee, Oh, sweetie, we all have whiney days, believe me. Even those of us who have been ill with

this thing for decades. I was diagnosed at 30, but have had trouble with my immune system since

I was 10. I am now 55. So, you see, it is possible to survive many years with this disease, and to make a life for yourself, even when you think it will never happen.

I am the single, adoptive parent of four special needs children. Two are grown and gone, and two are

still at home, ages 12 and 16. Up until 8 years ago, I had a career, a second career, and parented

my kids all at the same time. Talk about over achievers. LOL Now, with all the complications of my

condition, I have slowed down a lot, and can no longer commit to a regular job, I am still an active

parent in my kids' lives. I just have had to adjust how that activity happens, when and how much.

It's a long, hard education to get to where I am, now, and I still have days when I just have to give up

and go to bed. Just got back home from a week's medical incarceration in June, but am taking

advantage of how much better I feel by living life every minute until I get tired, then going to bed,

again.

I played indoor games with my kids when they were little, like beach ball volleyball in their rooms

(beach balls don't break windows), art projects we could do together, day trips to local state parks,

games of Frisbee where I sat under an umbrella and they did the running around. We still have fun,

laughed a lot, but I didn't wear myself out.

On days when I was stuck in bed, we watched films together, read books (the whole Harry Potter

series so far), made seasonal gifts and decorations with the kids sitting all over my bed, etc. You

CAN have a life, it just takes some creative thinking, patience, and constant reassurance to your

family that things will be better on some days than others.

I am glad you found a Rheumy, even if only for a couple of months. At least, you may get a diagnosis out of it, and some decent drug information. For more info, go to our main website and

click on LINKS on the lefthand side of the screen. There you will find many articles on Lupus, its

attendant conditions, how to explain things in plain language to your family and friends, how to ask

for help, and many helpful hints on medications, etc. If one person in the group can't answer a

question, someone else can, or they can tell you where to find the information you are seeking.

Please, though, be very careful about stopping Prednisone cold turkey. Any responsible doctor would

not suggest such a thing. Weaning off of it is the recommended procedure, unless you have not

been on that high dose for more than a few days. And, even then, it is usually done as a "burst" of

medication followed by several days of gradually lowering the dose to nothing. Dropping it all at once, especially after using it for more than a week, can bring on serious complications with your

heart and lungs, as well as other internal organs. Please keep us posted on how things are going with

you, and know that we are here, we care, and we will always listen and respond.

The only thing I would caution you about, other than the medication issue, is that all of our members

and moderators/owners are ill, more or less, just as you are, and if it takes a while to get a response,

don't panic. We will respond as we are able. Again, welcome to the group. Hugs, MM aka: Mike

one of the moderators

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ee, Oh, sweetie, we all have whiney days, believe me. Even those of us who have been ill with

this thing for decades. I was diagnosed at 30, but have had trouble with my immune system since

I was 10. I am now 55. So, you see, it is possible to survive many years with this disease, and to make a life for yourself, even when you think it will never happen.

I am the single, adoptive parent of four special needs children. Two are grown and gone, and two are

still at home, ages 12 and 16. Up until 8 years ago, I had a career, a second career, and parented

my kids all at the same time. Talk about over achievers. LOL Now, with all the complications of my

condition, I have slowed down a lot, and can no longer commit to a regular job, I am still an active

parent in my kids' lives. I just have had to adjust how that activity happens, when and how much.

It's a long, hard education to get to where I am, now, and I still have days when I just have to give up

and go to bed. Just got back home from a week's medical incarceration in June, but am taking

advantage of how much better I feel by living life every minute until I get tired, then going to bed,

again.

I played indoor games with my kids when they were little, like beach ball volleyball in their rooms

(beach balls don't break windows), art projects we could do together, day trips to local state parks,

games of Frisbee where I sat under an umbrella and they did the running around. We still have fun,

laughed a lot, but I didn't wear myself out.

On days when I was stuck in bed, we watched films together, read books (the whole Harry Potter

series so far), made seasonal gifts and decorations with the kids sitting all over my bed, etc. You

CAN have a life, it just takes some creative thinking, patience, and constant reassurance to your

family that things will be better on some days than others.

I am glad you found a Rheumy, even if only for a couple of months. At least, you may get a diagnosis out of it, and some decent drug information. For more info, go to our main website and

click on LINKS on the lefthand side of the screen. There you will find many articles on Lupus, its

attendant conditions, how to explain things in plain language to your family and friends, how to ask

for help, and many helpful hints on medications, etc. If one person in the group can't answer a

question, someone else can, or they can tell you where to find the information you are seeking.

Please, though, be very careful about stopping Prednisone cold turkey. Any responsible doctor would

not suggest such a thing. Weaning off of it is the recommended procedure, unless you have not

been on that high dose for more than a few days. And, even then, it is usually done as a "burst" of

medication followed by several days of gradually lowering the dose to nothing. Dropping it all at once, especially after using it for more than a week, can bring on serious complications with your

heart and lungs, as well as other internal organs. Please keep us posted on how things are going with

you, and know that we are here, we care, and we will always listen and respond.

The only thing I would caution you about, other than the medication issue, is that all of our members

and moderators/owners are ill, more or less, just as you are, and if it takes a while to get a response,

don't panic. We will respond as we are able. Again, welcome to the group. Hugs, MM aka: Mike

one of the moderators

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From: ee

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004

12:03 AM

To: LUPIES

Subject: Just thought I'd

say hello!

Hi everyone--

Thank you so much for letting me into your

group. I appreciate the

chance to talk with you as I know that many of you

are experiencing

some of the same things I am or already have

experienced them.

I'm 25 years old, married, with two little boys

(almost 3 and 19

months). I work part time nights as a sleep

lab technician. I have

been diagnosed with Lupus (SLE) by my general

practitioner but he is

a bit timid in treating me and seems to only know

one word when it

comes to treatment -- Prednisone. I have an

appt with a

rheumatologist in Salt

Lake (I live in cedar City Utah

by the way and

would love to hear from anyone who may be close to

me) in October.

I've been in my worst flare ever for three months

now and just went

off of 80 mg Prednisone a week and a half

ago. I saw a

rheumatologist who had a cancelation and will be

retiring soon but

because I was in flare and not doing well fit me

in and will see me

until September when he retires. When I went

to see him I was so

hopeful but I had been on PRednisone for two weeks

and had improved

quite a bit, also my blood word was inaccurate

because of the

medication. This doctor told me to go home,

go off the prednisone,

get sicker, and come back. That's when I

started crying in his

office (how embarrassing huh). So that's

what I'm doing now just

getting sicker so I can go back. I realize I

may not even have lupus

but when I look into other autoimmunes or other

diseases in general,

lupus seems to explain all my symptoms while the

others still leave

me missing some. I'm having a lot of stress

now as my mom is dying

of lymphoma and my illness is progressing. I

feel guilt on a daily

basis at the things I can not do for my husband

and children like I

want to. I hurt every day. I feel like

I'm barely functioning. I

feel like I'm 80 and I'm only 25. I feel

like my life has been taken

from me. I appreciate you all listening to

me and I really feel this

keeps me sane and saves my hubby from a lot of

whining he doesn't

really understand anyway. I feel silly to

whine when I read what so

many of you go through, you people amaze me and

give me hope. I

think if they can do it, why am I

complaining? But I am new to this

in a lot of ways and there's still so much I don't

even know about

what's going on with myself. I guess

everybody experiences things

differently and we all must deal with our own sets

of symptoms and

problems this disease causes, we all have to find

our acceptance no

matter how severe our disease is. That's

really what I hope I can do

with time is accept this and find peace within

myself to carry on

every day. I've learned a lot already about

taking things a day at a

time, I don't think I could survive and stay sane

otherwise. Sending

hugs and prayers your way! Thanks again for

everything!

Love,

ee

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Dear ee,

Hi! I also am new to the group. I haven't had time to post a hello to

the group on a whole yet but when i saw your post i wanted to give a

little advice. I was just checking email when i saw your messege

post. I am a 29 year old female with SLE. I was diagnosed when i

was 16 so as you can see, i have been dealing with this disease for a

long time. My advice to you is to see a different doctor. This

rheumatologist is not for you. I am not only speaking from a patient

experience standpoint but as a pharmacist (this is my profession). I

see no point in going to see a rheumatologist for consultation to get

diagnosed and then for him to retire and then have to find another

rheumatogist to go through the same process. Each time you see a

specialist for the first time it is considered a consultation and

they charge you the consultation fee and perform almost similar

testing. Don't waste your time like that. This doctor is retiring,

and will not be able to care for you. FIND SOMEONE ELSE!

As for stopping the prednisone cold turkey so you can get sicker and

then see him is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard and does

not sound responsible to me. I may not be a board certified medical

doctor but i am a practising board certified pharmacist and i truly

believe you should find another physician. How long were you on 80mg

of prednisone? If you have been on it any longer than 2-3 weeks, you

should have been tapered off. Plus there are some lab test that can

indicate if you might have lupus which the doctor should have tried

first (each person is different so sometimes not everyone shows

positive for certain indicators).

" Come back when you are sicker?! What the hell is that? Excuse my

language but even though this is not happening to me i am quite

pissed off. Trust me this is much cleaner language than what is

going through my head (i grew up in NY so trust me i have an

extensive vocabulary of colorful words). I suppose if you flare up

again and wind up maybe wind up this time with full blown lupus

symptoms such as kidney nephritis, pneumonia, fever, pericarditis,

etc. then he can say " ahh, yes you do have lupus. " Plus if this

happen, you are going to be right back on prednisone.

I don't know if you have lupus, like i said i am not a doctor, but

you need to find another rheumatologist. It took a lot of trial and

error to figure out i had lupus but when the doctor found out i was

serious very sick. I know that doctor probably has his reasons for

this course of action he wants you to take but i can't see

how " getting sicker " is suppose to help you...That is like

saying " yes we know you have the symptoms chest pain, lets stop the

nitroglycerin tablets and see how to treat you when you really are

experiencing pain... " Since you are going to have to find another

rheumatogist anyways, do it now.

As for the crying at the doctors office. Almost everyone with an

illness has done it one time or another. Plus you are a woman,

unless that doctor is a monk, i am pretty sure he has seen women

cry. He will deal with it. This is a serious illness and it effects

every part of you life. If you don't let out emotionally once in a

while, you are only hurting yourself.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Take care of yourself

and most importantly, trust yourself and listen to what your body

tells you.

Sincerely,

Rose

> Hi everyone--

> Thank you so much for letting me into your group. I appreciate the

> chance to talk with you as I know that many of you are experiencing

> some of the same things I am or already have experienced them.

> I'm 25 years old, married, with two little boys (almost 3 and 19

> months). I work part time nights as a sleep lab technician. I

have

> been diagnosed with Lupus (SLE) by my general practitioner but he

is

> a bit timid in treating me and seems to only know one word when it

> comes to treatment -- Prednisone. I have an appt with a

> rheumatologist in Salt Lake (I live in cedar City Utah by the way

and

> would love to hear from anyone who may be close to me) in October.

> I've been in my worst flare ever for three months now and just went

> off of 80 mg Prednisone a week and a half ago. I saw a

> rheumatologist who had a cancelation and will be retiring soon but

> because I was in flare and not doing well fit me in and will see me

> until September when he retires. When I went to see him I was so

> hopeful but I had been on PRednisone for two weeks and had improved

> quite a bit, also my blood word was inaccurate because of the

> medication. This doctor told me to go home, go off the prednisone,

> get sicker, and come back. That's when I started crying in his

> office (how embarrassing huh). So that's what I'm doing now just

> getting sicker so I can go back. I realize I may not even have

lupus

> but when I look into other autoimmunes or other diseases in

general,

> lupus seems to explain all my symptoms while the others still leave

> me missing some. I'm having a lot of stress now as my mom is dying

> of lymphoma and my illness is progressing. I feel guilt on a daily

> basis at the things I can not do for my husband and children like I

> want to. I hurt every day. I feel like I'm barely functioning. I

> feel like I'm 80 and I'm only 25. I feel like my life has been

taken

> from me. I appreciate you all listening to me and I really feel

this

> keeps me sane and saves my hubby from a lot of whining he doesn't

> really understand anyway. I feel silly to whine when I read what

so

> many of you go through, you people amaze me and give me hope. I

> think if they can do it, why am I complaining? But I am new to

this

> in a lot of ways and there's still so much I don't even know about

> what's going on with myself. I guess everybody experiences things

> differently and we all must deal with our own sets of symptoms and

> problems this disease causes, we all have to find our acceptance no

> matter how severe our disease is. That's really what I hope I can

do

> with time is accept this and find peace within myself to carry on

> every day. I've learned a lot already about taking things a day at

a

> time, I don't think I could survive and stay sane otherwise.

Sending

> hugs and prayers your way! Thanks again for everything!

> Love,

> ee

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Hey, Rose, that was very sound advice, and thanks for supporting the rest of us who wrote about

not stopping Pred all at once. I, too question that doc's intelligence over this whole issue. Loving

hugs, and a big welcome, MM aka: Mike, one of the moderators

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Hey, Rose, that was very sound advice, and thanks for supporting the rest of us who wrote about

not stopping Pred all at once. I, too question that doc's intelligence over this whole issue. Loving

hugs, and a big welcome, MM aka: Mike, one of the moderators

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Hey, Rose, that was very sound advice, and thanks for supporting the rest of us who wrote about

not stopping Pred all at once. I, too question that doc's intelligence over this whole issue. Loving

hugs, and a big welcome, MM aka: Mike, one of the moderators

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