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I had my ERCP 2 days ago with a new machine .. what I got out of it..

well first they broke a crown in the front of my mouth after I told

multiple times to be careful !!!!! they must have left a lot of air in

me cause I feel like a balloon and it hurts .. and my uvula loks like

it was burned raw !!!! mind you I have had an ercp before !! NOT LIKE

THIS THOUGH ....

Marisol

(2005) PSC

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Hi Marisol,

Sorry to hear about the crown and about how you feel. Hope you get

better soon, if not, check if the drs can give you anything to help at

least the feeling in your stomach. Do they have any system in place

which would help you with fixing the tooth? You may have had the

intubation tube if your throat hurts like that - that's what caused it

with my son.

My son had an ERC and colonoscopy yesterday and he, too, was feeling

like crap (he does not know all that much English yet but one word he

knows is crap and that is the one he used...), first because of the

intubation tube had hurt his throat so much he could not speak for a

couple of hours. Then, because of the air inside him, and eventually,

because of all the things they had done inside (most likely the ERC)

he started hurting like hell after he had his first bites to eat. This

happened even though is amylase was normal four hours after the

procedure unlike after the previous ERC. But after a dose of oxinorm,

he was quite painless and very (!) happy and cheerful. He even could

eat some more in the evening and slept well through the night. This is

the morning after, and if he can now eat normally, he (we) will be

released today. It looks good at this point and I am keeping my

fingers crossed.

Dr Farkkila who performed the ERC said Eemeli's PSC is progressing but

slowly and he had " ballooned " several extrahepatic ducts. In one of

the intrahepatic ones there is a very strict stricture that they could

get no instrument to get through but they got brushings there so after

the pathology report comes, we'll know more about that. But it must be

" just another stricture " since all Eemeli's labs except for ALP are ok

(even CA 19-9). But a lot of the intrahepatic ducts were narrowed

already in the previous ERC a year ago.

The colon is fine except for some swelling. We'll get the biopsy

results of that later, too. Interesting system, though: the ERC was

performed in the " adult " endoscopy unit and Eemeli was hurried under

anesthesy to the adjacent children's hospital through the tunnels

under the hospitals for the colonoscopy. If no complications follow

from the double procedure as it seems now, this was great!

Sorry for the long story, I have just been so worried about this whole

double procedure. Now I can think ahead again! I guess I mentioned

this already but it would be so interesting to take part in the

Monothematic PSC Conference in Oslo where Dr Farkkila is going to

co-chair the session where one of the topics is Endoscopic treatment

in PSC - a critical appraisal. So much more interesting now.

Taru-Mari, mom of Eemeli (12), dx PSC 7/2003, UC 5/2008

> I had my ERCP 2 days ago with a new machine .. what I got out of

it.. well first they broke a crown in the front of my mouth after I

told multiple times to be careful !!!!! they must have left a lot of

air in me cause I feel like a balloon and it hurts .. and my uvula

loks like it was burned raw !!!!

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Hi Marisol,

Sorry to hear about the crown and about how you feel. Hope you get

better soon, if not, check if the drs can give you anything to help at

least the feeling in your stomach. Do they have any system in place

which would help you with fixing the tooth? You may have had the

intubation tube if your throat hurts like that - that's what caused it

with my son.

My son had an ERC and colonoscopy yesterday and he, too, was feeling

like crap (he does not know all that much English yet but one word he

knows is crap and that is the one he used...), first because of the

intubation tube had hurt his throat so much he could not speak for a

couple of hours. Then, because of the air inside him, and eventually,

because of all the things they had done inside (most likely the ERC)

he started hurting like hell after he had his first bites to eat. This

happened even though is amylase was normal four hours after the

procedure unlike after the previous ERC. But after a dose of oxinorm,

he was quite painless and very (!) happy and cheerful. He even could

eat some more in the evening and slept well through the night. This is

the morning after, and if he can now eat normally, he (we) will be

released today. It looks good at this point and I am keeping my

fingers crossed.

Dr Farkkila who performed the ERC said Eemeli's PSC is progressing but

slowly and he had " ballooned " several extrahepatic ducts. In one of

the intrahepatic ones there is a very strict stricture that they could

get no instrument to get through but they got brushings there so after

the pathology report comes, we'll know more about that. But it must be

" just another stricture " since all Eemeli's labs except for ALP are ok

(even CA 19-9). But a lot of the intrahepatic ducts were narrowed

already in the previous ERC a year ago.

The colon is fine except for some swelling. We'll get the biopsy

results of that later, too. Interesting system, though: the ERC was

performed in the " adult " endoscopy unit and Eemeli was hurried under

anesthesy to the adjacent children's hospital through the tunnels

under the hospitals for the colonoscopy. If no complications follow

from the double procedure as it seems now, this was great!

Sorry for the long story, I have just been so worried about this whole

double procedure. Now I can think ahead again! I guess I mentioned

this already but it would be so interesting to take part in the

Monothematic PSC Conference in Oslo where Dr Farkkila is going to

co-chair the session where one of the topics is Endoscopic treatment

in PSC - a critical appraisal. So much more interesting now.

Taru-Mari, mom of Eemeli (12), dx PSC 7/2003, UC 5/2008

> I had my ERCP 2 days ago with a new machine .. what I got out of

it.. well first they broke a crown in the front of my mouth after I

told multiple times to be careful !!!!! they must have left a lot of

air in me cause I feel like a balloon and it hurts .. and my uvula

loks like it was burned raw !!!!

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Hi Marisol,

Sorry to hear about the crown and about how you feel. Hope you get

better soon, if not, check if the drs can give you anything to help at

least the feeling in your stomach. Do they have any system in place

which would help you with fixing the tooth? You may have had the

intubation tube if your throat hurts like that - that's what caused it

with my son.

My son had an ERC and colonoscopy yesterday and he, too, was feeling

like crap (he does not know all that much English yet but one word he

knows is crap and that is the one he used...), first because of the

intubation tube had hurt his throat so much he could not speak for a

couple of hours. Then, because of the air inside him, and eventually,

because of all the things they had done inside (most likely the ERC)

he started hurting like hell after he had his first bites to eat. This

happened even though is amylase was normal four hours after the

procedure unlike after the previous ERC. But after a dose of oxinorm,

he was quite painless and very (!) happy and cheerful. He even could

eat some more in the evening and slept well through the night. This is

the morning after, and if he can now eat normally, he (we) will be

released today. It looks good at this point and I am keeping my

fingers crossed.

Dr Farkkila who performed the ERC said Eemeli's PSC is progressing but

slowly and he had " ballooned " several extrahepatic ducts. In one of

the intrahepatic ones there is a very strict stricture that they could

get no instrument to get through but they got brushings there so after

the pathology report comes, we'll know more about that. But it must be

" just another stricture " since all Eemeli's labs except for ALP are ok

(even CA 19-9). But a lot of the intrahepatic ducts were narrowed

already in the previous ERC a year ago.

The colon is fine except for some swelling. We'll get the biopsy

results of that later, too. Interesting system, though: the ERC was

performed in the " adult " endoscopy unit and Eemeli was hurried under

anesthesy to the adjacent children's hospital through the tunnels

under the hospitals for the colonoscopy. If no complications follow

from the double procedure as it seems now, this was great!

Sorry for the long story, I have just been so worried about this whole

double procedure. Now I can think ahead again! I guess I mentioned

this already but it would be so interesting to take part in the

Monothematic PSC Conference in Oslo where Dr Farkkila is going to

co-chair the session where one of the topics is Endoscopic treatment

in PSC - a critical appraisal. So much more interesting now.

Taru-Mari, mom of Eemeli (12), dx PSC 7/2003, UC 5/2008

> I had my ERCP 2 days ago with a new machine .. what I got out of

it.. well first they broke a crown in the front of my mouth after I

told multiple times to be careful !!!!! they must have left a lot of

air in me cause I feel like a balloon and it hurts .. and my uvula

loks like it was burned raw !!!!

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Hi Marisol,

I really hope the hospital covers the broken crown - at least partly

if they refuse to take all the blame for it. I will keep my fingers

crossed that they pay for all of it!

I am all for not taking any unnecessary medication but in Eemeli's

case one dose of oxinorm took the pain away (although I thought it

would not be enough seeing him cramping with pain and whining which he

does not do easily although he is 12). When the pain was away, he

could move and that helped get the air out of his system. The ERC was

on Thursday and today (Saturday) he was out chopping some wood.

Unbelievable. I can't keep up: first all the preop stuff, hospital

crap (changing rooms twice the first night in the middle of the

colonsteril drinking among other things), two procedures in one day,

the bad pain episode and worry about possible pancreatitis, roommate

having high fever and fainting one night most likely due to a

side-effect of cipro (I was in the room and the nurse needed help) -

and today, the my kid is chopping wood like nothing out of the

ordinary ever took place.

What was the new machine they used for your ERC? Do you know what was

different about it or did they just not know how to use it without

hurting your throat?

Taru-Mari, mom of Eemeli (12), PSC 7/2003 & UC 5/2008

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