Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 In a message dated 3/26/2005 12:27:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, fridayeyes@... writes: > *chuckling* Not all ENDOs are Satan, you guys I don't believe you. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 In a message dated 3/26/2005 12:27:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, fridayeyes@... writes: > *chuckling* Not all ENDOs are Satan, you guys I don't believe you. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 You are SO lucky to have found a good Endo! Sounds like this guy really knows his stuff and especially knows how important it is to LISTEN to his patients! *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 You are SO lucky to have found a good Endo! Sounds like this guy really knows his stuff and especially knows how important it is to LISTEN to his patients! *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 You know what, he says it was listening that turned him around. He says that about 10 years ago, he was still very conventional in the thyroid area. Then the weight of his patients telling him how they felt, that Armour helped, not to cut their dose etc made him go looking for more research. Since then, he's switched his views. He says that most patients don't purposefully make themselves hyper. It doesn't feel good. The reason he insists on a first-time face to face meeting is to asses what the patient knows and how they act. He decides from there if he can trust the patient to self-monitor, or if he needs to be more involved. My sister goes to him too, and we're trying to get the rest of the family in. Cheers! Friday > You are SO lucky to have found a good Endo! Sounds like this guy really knows his stuff and especially knows how important it is to LISTEN to his patients! > *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV > Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I'm curious here - I'm assuming the difference some people felt was because they were essentially getting a higher dose, say 90% of 3 grains instead of 75%. Do you think they would have had the same positive response if they had simply taken more orally? Believe me, this is not an attempt to argue. I think people should do what works, period. I'm a researcher, though, and my 'professional' curiosity wants to know if it's truly delivery that matters or just the amount absorbed, delivery aside. Thanks! Friday > > Oops. As great as your doc is, he's not correct about sublingual > dosing. Because Armour and other natural thyroid meds are not > actually " meant " to be done sublingually, their dissolving is slow, > and thus, the superior absorption is slower, as well. And....many > have people here who switched from oral to sublingual did notice a > great difference, honestly. If anyone is feeling uneven during the > day, the solution is to multi-dose a bit more. Of course, you can > swallow Armour and be successful!! But, there is an edge with > sublingual over oral dosing. ) You get most all of what you > introduce to your body (as compared to losing quite a lot when > swallowing), and...it's less stress on your liver. > > He is correct that you may need to up your dose if you have > interactions with certain foods--such as iron, etc. > > Otherwise, you have a great doc, even if he is an Endo!! LOL > > Janie > > > Incidentally, he disagrees with sublingual dosing. He says that it > > causes the Armour to absorb and metabolize too quickly, possibly > > causing spikes and slumps. He says that if you're having trouble > > with food interactions, you should adjust what you can and then up > > the dose to compensate. I switched to oral dosing (swallowing), > and > > have not noticed a difference. I'm not trying to tell people what > > to do, just offering his suggestion in case anyone is feeling > uneven > > during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I'm curious here - I'm assuming the difference some people felt was because they were essentially getting a higher dose, say 90% of 3 grains instead of 75%. Do you think they would have had the same positive response if they had simply taken more orally? Believe me, this is not an attempt to argue. I think people should do what works, period. I'm a researcher, though, and my 'professional' curiosity wants to know if it's truly delivery that matters or just the amount absorbed, delivery aside. Thanks! Friday > > Oops. As great as your doc is, he's not correct about sublingual > dosing. Because Armour and other natural thyroid meds are not > actually " meant " to be done sublingually, their dissolving is slow, > and thus, the superior absorption is slower, as well. And....many > have people here who switched from oral to sublingual did notice a > great difference, honestly. If anyone is feeling uneven during the > day, the solution is to multi-dose a bit more. Of course, you can > swallow Armour and be successful!! But, there is an edge with > sublingual over oral dosing. ) You get most all of what you > introduce to your body (as compared to losing quite a lot when > swallowing), and...it's less stress on your liver. > > He is correct that you may need to up your dose if you have > interactions with certain foods--such as iron, etc. > > Otherwise, you have a great doc, even if he is an Endo!! LOL > > Janie > > > Incidentally, he disagrees with sublingual dosing. He says that it > > causes the Armour to absorb and metabolize too quickly, possibly > > causing spikes and slumps. He says that if you're having trouble > > with food interactions, you should adjust what you can and then up > > the dose to compensate. I switched to oral dosing (swallowing), > and > > have not noticed a difference. I'm not trying to tell people what > > to do, just offering his suggestion in case anyone is feeling > uneven > > during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 >>I'm assuming the difference some people felt was because they were essentially getting a higher dose, say 90% of 3 grains instead of 75%. Do you think they would have had the same positive response if they had simply taken more orally?<< I think alot will depend on the individual. I take my meds orally by swallowing them, but then I have never had any of the digestive problems some hypos get. And I take a very HIGH dosage of Armour! I think due to my teeth problems is why I prefer to swallow as I have tried sublingual and there is not a place in my mouth where the meds will stay put till dissolved.. maybe cause I only have 11 teeth left and they are all holy ones! *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 That is an excellent question. Here's a link to a good article on sublingual---let's see if we can answer your question. Janie http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Colon% 20Health/lea13.htm > > I'm curious here - I'm assuming the difference some people felt was > because they were essentially getting a higher dose, say 90% of 3 > grains instead of 75%. Do you think they would have had the same > positive response if they had simply taken more orally? > > Believe me, this is not an attempt to argue. I think people should > do what works, period. I'm a researcher, though, and > my 'professional' curiosity wants to know if it's truly delivery > that matters or just the amount absorbed, delivery aside. > > Thanks! > > Friday > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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