Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 I have been trying to locate data on trends in migration, particularly temporary migration, to the U.S., or to states or regions of the U.S. or states by largely unaccompanied males from Central and South America, who engage in agricultural and non-agricultural activities. I have recently located some very useful information from the 1997-98 National Agricultural Workers Survey, but I would welcome information on other sources (articles, websites, persons, organizations, etc.) that track migration streams over time and to changing destinations. I have also been looking for information on seroprevalence or estimated AIDS rates among these same migrant men and potentially their partners relative to other groups that are usually reported in surveillance reports. I have not been able to locate many details other than some summary information based on earlier reports issued by the Migrant Health Program of the Bureau of Health Care and Delivery and Assistance of DOL (1990) and the national Commission to Prevent Infant Mortality (1993). Once again, I would welcome information on other current sources, and sources track trends. Thanks in advance to any subscribers who have ideas to share. M. Painter, Ph.D. (Sociologist) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention Behavioral Intervention Research Branch, MS E-46 1600 Clifton Road, N.E. Atlanta, Georgia 30333 USA Tel. 1-404-639-2090 / 6113 (direct line) Fax 1-404-639-8640 E-mail: tcp2@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 Thank you for that NAWS report, many will find it useful. I believe you are referring to Rick Mines, Research Director at CIRS in , who was director of the NAWS in the 1990s. He can be reached at rkmnes@... Regards, Lighthall -----Original Message----- From: Ybarra, [mailto:JYbarra@...] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:57 PM ' ' Subject: FW: RE: [ ] Query You might find the Attached information helpful. I also recommend looking at DOL LMI under Workforce information in the Advocates file below. You can also contact the farmworker organizations in the attached file. Mimies (Last name SP?) agricultural consultant for DOL in Berkley U in California has done a great deal of research on migrant workers. He has good information. I hope this is helpful. -----Original Message----- From: Painter, [mailto:tcp2@...] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:45 PM 'migrant health research group' Subject: [ ] Query I have been trying to locate data on trends in migration, particularly temporary migration, to the U.S., or to states or regions of the U.S. or states by largely unaccompanied males from Central and South America, who engage in agricultural and non-agricultural activities. I have recently located some very useful information from the 1997-98 National Agricultural Workers Survey, but I would welcome information on other sources (articles, websites, persons, organizations, etc.) that track migration streams over time and to changing destinations. I have also been looking for information on seroprevalence or estimated AIDS rates among these same migrant men and potentially their partners relative to other groups that are usually reported in surveillance reports. I have not been able to locate many details other than some summary information based on earlier reports issued by the Migrant Health Program of the Bureau of Health Care and Delivery and Assistance of DOL (1990) and the national Commission to Prevent Infant Mortality (1993). Once again, I would welcome information on other curent sources, and sources track trends. Thanks in advance to any subscribers who have ideas to share. M. Painter, Ph.D. (Sociologist) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention Behavioral Intervention Research Branch, MS E-46 1600 Clifton Road, N.E. Atlanta, Georgia 30333 USA Tel. 1-404-639-2090 / 6113 (direct line) Fax 1-404-639-8640 E-mail: tcp2@... To Post a message, send it to: Groups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 >At 02:27 PM 2/12/04 -0500, MFJewett wrote: >>For some reason, though, I get the impression that there are even some >>NT-ers that won't touch raw pork, much less raw pork organs. Why? I don't ... partly because I just don't like pork. And also because of all the animals, pigs are the most biologically like humans. This could be a good thing, or not, depending on what you are talking about, but to my mind it makes it easier for us to share pathogens. Most of the flus come to us via bird viruses that mutate inside pigs then are given to people. Plus they are one of the most intelligent animals. None of this directly relates to the safety of pork, really, but it makes me feel icky. (how's that for scientific). -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Ah. Someone told me that trichinosis was a thing of the past - unfortunately I didn't get many details on why (other than a vague idea that it was almost wiped out at some point by different pig-raising practices maybe?). Guess I'll have to check back about that. Thanks! At 05:31 PM 2/13/04 -0500, you wrote: > My thought is that it would be because of the trichinosis parasite. It is a > microscopic worm that can live in the muscle of pigs. Thorough cooking > destroys it. > > Other than that I can't help you. > > Judith Alta > > Query > > At 02:27 PM 2/12/04 -0500, MFJewett wrote: >>For some reason, though, I get the impression that there are even some >> Why? >> >> > > > Did this get lost in all the philosophicals, or are there really no pork > I'm not finding much in NT nor WAPF site at the moment. > > > > MFJ > Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 At 03:02 PM 2/13/04 -0800, you wrote: >>At 02:27 PM 2/12/04 -0500, MFJewett wrote: >>For some reason, though, I get the impression that there are even some >>NT-ers that won't touch raw pork, much less raw pork organs. Why? > > I don't ... partly because I just don't like pork. And also > because of all the animals, pigs are the most biologically > like humans. This could be a good thing, or not, depending > on what you are talking about, but to my mind it makes it > easier for us to share pathogens. Most of the flus come > to us via bird viruses that mutate inside pigs then > are given to people. > > Plus they are one of the most intelligent animals. > > None of this directly relates to the safety of pork, > really, but it makes me feel icky. (how's that for > scientific). > > -- Heidi Scientific Schmientific? Biologically similar/easier to share pathogens makes sense. As far as intelligence goes, you're right there also - I try not to let my sissy's pig know what I'm eating for dinner. MFJ Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I wouldn't worry about trichinosis as long as you cook your pork until it is no longer pink in the center. My favorite is pork steak, with all the fat, sliced thin, seasoned with salt, pepper and sage and cooked until crispy. Yummm! Judith Alta -----Original Message----- From: F. Jewett [mailto:mfjewett@...] Ah. Someone told me that trichinosis was a thing of the past - unfortunately I didn't get many details on why (other than a vague idea that it was almost wiped out at some point by different pig-raising practices maybe?). Guess I'll have to check back about that. Thanks! At 05:31 PM 2/13/04 -0500, you wrote: > My thought is that it would be because of the trichinosis parasite. It is a > microscopic worm that can live in the muscle of pigs. Thorough cooking > destroys it. > > Other than that I can't help you. > > Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 At 03:28 PM 2/14/04 -0500, you wrote: > I wouldn't worry about trichinosis as long as you cook your pork until >it is > no longer pink in the center. > > My favorite is pork steak, with all the fat, sliced thin, seasoned with > salt, pepper and sage and cooked until crispy. Yummm! > > Judith Alta Ah, yes. I was just talking to someone this morning, and mentioned that you, in fact, had gotten me to actually slap a pork chop into a pan with butter ... I think it was the description of that nice crispy fat LOL. Although I've been using salt, pepper and thyme. I cook even the pork rare (although not quite as much as beef or lamb), and it hasn't killed me yet, so ... Been feeding the raw organs to Da Cat, figured his system works so fast that cooties wouldn't get a chance to take hold. Got goat today, though, including organs. Somehow I get the feeling he won't be liking goat meat. :-D MFJ Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 >> i believe it's because producers now freeze the meat at a temp that kills >> trichi. > > >Ah. So even if there may be other buggies in there (parasites, not >bacteria), then since it's all been sitting at zero degrees for several >months, chances are they're all dead anyway? i don't know, i just recall having read that there's an industry standard or requirement now to freeze all pork at a certain temp that kills trichi. i don't know if small producers do this or not, though. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 At 11:54 AM 2/16/2004, you wrote: >i don't know, i just recall having read that there's an industry standard or >requirement now to freeze all pork at a certain temp that kills trichi. i >don't know if small producers do this or not, though. we don't - we just use a meat thermometer when cooking. -katja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hello, This is my first posting to this list, but I have been reading and I have a question. Has anybody tried any of the gallstone cleansing programmes and had before and after results confirmed by ultrasound? If so, what did these show? Best regards - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/07/07 9:21 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yes, I have. I had my first and only GB attack 3/12/06 and was in the hospital. Of course, Dr. wanted me to have surgery. I said, no, I'm going home and will do some research. I now take A-F Betafood by Standard Process Labs daily. I still have my GB and am doing fine. I had a sonogram in the hospital and was told that I have innumerable stones. I did three flushes and started passing stones, about 4 a day. In the beginning, they were the size of hominy, then the size of corn kernels. However, I did pass a few that were 1/2 inch and two that were 3/4 inch. They were yellow cholesterol stones. A few were green. I continued to pass them for a YEAR! I went back for another sonogram and was told the very same thing I was originally told. Innumerable stones. I finally eased off on passing stones and started passing them a few times a week. Then I stopped passing them totally. I have recently gone to a nutritionist who put me on some stuff to help GB problems and I have now passed about 6 stones. I'm sure I'm still loaded with stones, but since I'm not having any problems, I'm not going to worry about it. Amber Hello, This is my first posting to this list, but I have been reading and I have a question. Has anybody tried any of the gallstone cleansing programmes and had before and after results confirmed by ultrasound? If so, what did these show? Best regards - . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yup, my wife has 3 big gallstones before she did liver cleansing, after 2 mos she had an ultrasound, the gallstones became 2 but the size of a sand. She blogged about it. http://mompopson.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-to-remove-gallstones-naturally.html Just click on the above url and you can read about her story and the method she used. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hi I have been subjected to ultrasound last May 2002 and found out to have multiple stones and was advised to have surgical removal of stones, but I decided to have cleansing and flush. i did this July 2002 and went back to have onother ultrasound just to confirm if i passed stones, and indeed, the report showed zero stones. I believe that my eating habits have more to do in having stones, as several months after, I again devloped stones. But I already made the habit of cleansing and doing the flush when ever I felt the need to do so. I still keep with me the results of those ultrasound..elsie Porretta <lporretta@...> wrote: Hello, This is my first posting to this list, but I have been reading and I have a question. Has anybody tried any of the gallstone cleansing programmes and had before and after results confirmed by ultrasound? If so, what did these show? Best regards - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/07/07 9:21 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hi I have been subjected to ultrasound last May 2002 and found out to have multiple stones and was advised to have surgical removal of stones, but I decided to have cleansing and flush. i did this July 2002 and went back to have onother ultrasound just to confirm if i passed stones, and indeed, the report showed zero stones. I believe that my eating habits have more to do in having stones, as several months after, I again devloped stones. But I already made the habit of cleansing and doing the flush when ever I felt the need to do so. I still keep with me the results of those ultrasound..elsie Porretta <lporretta@...> wrote: Hello, This is my first posting to this list, but I have been reading and I have a question. Has anybody tried any of the gallstone cleansing programmes and had before and after results confirmed by ultrasound? If so, what did these show? Best regards - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/07/07 9:21 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I had a sonogram showing " innumerable " stones. Did 3 flushes and started passing about 4 stones every day. Went back about 6 mo. later for another sonogram and it still showed " innumerable " stones. I passed stones for a YEAR and then it tapered off. Passed a few about twice a week. Then I stopped passing them all together. Went to a nutritionist who put me on a product and I'm now passing a few stones once or twice a week again. I'm evidently loaded with stones. However, I have had no pain since my first and only attack (March 12, 2006) and I still have my GB. Amber Amber This is my first posting to this list, but I have been reading and I have a question. Has anybody tried any of the gallstone cleansing programmes and had before and after results confirmed by ultrasound? If so, what did these show? Best regards - . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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