Re: health

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm not going to bash you, but....

I was a 32 year old person. Very active, I ran stairs everyday, pretty much ran

everything. I was a manager of a wedding chapel. I also stopped at the gym every

morning (ok, so sometimes I skipped a day) before work. I also have 4 young

sons, so that kept me busy. One night, on my way home from work, a jerk from

California decided he needed to run across 3 lanes of traffic, cut in front of

me and make a right turn in front of my. He hit my car instead. I wasn't

injured, per se. I did have a stiff back, shoulder and neck after a day or so. I

went to the doctor and they did numerous xrays. I also had to see a chiro, but

they didn't do alot of " re-adjusting " mostly just massage and some bizzare table

that stretches your spine a little. Slowly but surely, I started to get more and

more tired and stiff. I've carried around some of my symptoms for as long as I

can remember, but the tiredness and stiffness have all started in the last year.

I wasn't overweight, I was very active and still, here I am.

Chris

health

I am probably going to get bashed for this, maybe even set on moderated

or even booted off.......

*I* think that many of the health problems people have these days is

because we have become such a lazy society. Look at how heavy people

are getting, more than 55% of Americans are overweight, more kids are

overweight than ever before. Being heavy leads to a host of problems:

high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, blood sugar problems, very

high cholesterol and triglycerides (blood fats), angina (chest pain

caused by decrease in oxygen to the heart), breathing problems, certain

types of cancer, the list goes on. It's not only because they eat the

wrong things (fast food, microwave meals, cookies & cakes, etc.), but

because no one really exercises anymore. You have got to burn off what

you put in or it converts to fat. Not only that but your muscles

atrophy (waste/shrink), pain in the knees and back, etc, etc. Exercise

keeps your whole body healthy. Not only is it a great workout for your

heart, but helps build and maintain healthy bones, muscles (builds lean

muscle) and joints, controls weight by reducing fat, it also helps with

fatigue (that is why they tell you not to exercise before going to bed).

This is why most doctors will tell you to " exercise. " They're not

talkin' run a marathon or workout at the gym till you feel you're going

to drop dead. Start out small, walk for 10 or 15 minutes a day. After

a week or 2, add 5, 10 or 15 minutes to your walk. After a while you

can add more exercises to your routine. You don't need a gym to do it

either, buy a set of 3 or 5 pound weights, you can get them at Walmart

and they don't cost much. There are exercise shows on tv that you can

follow, you can buy an exercise tape and follow it at home. Sure it

hurts at first, because it is something that your body isn't used to,

but if you keep at it, it won't hurt anymore. I know this to be true

because I've done it and I am doing it again because I feel better, not

only physically, but mentally. Nothing is impossible if you put your

mind to it.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm not going to bash you, but....

I was a 32 year old person. Very active, I ran stairs everyday, pretty much ran

everything. I was a manager of a wedding chapel. I also stopped at the gym every

morning (ok, so sometimes I skipped a day) before work. I also have 4 young

sons, so that kept me busy. One night, on my way home from work, a jerk from

California decided he needed to run across 3 lanes of traffic, cut in front of

me and make a right turn in front of my. He hit my car instead. I wasn't

injured, per se. I did have a stiff back, shoulder and neck after a day or so. I

went to the doctor and they did numerous xrays. I also had to see a chiro, but

they didn't do alot of " re-adjusting " mostly just massage and some bizzare table

that stretches your spine a little. Slowly but surely, I started to get more and

more tired and stiff. I've carried around some of my symptoms for as long as I

can remember, but the tiredness and stiffness have all started in the last year.

I wasn't overweight, I was very active and still, here I am.

Chris

health

I am probably going to get bashed for this, maybe even set on moderated

or even booted off.......

*I* think that many of the health problems people have these days is

because we have become such a lazy society. Look at how heavy people

are getting, more than 55% of Americans are overweight, more kids are

overweight than ever before. Being heavy leads to a host of problems:

high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, blood sugar problems, very

high cholesterol and triglycerides (blood fats), angina (chest pain

caused by decrease in oxygen to the heart), breathing problems, certain

types of cancer, the list goes on. It's not only because they eat the

wrong things (fast food, microwave meals, cookies & cakes, etc.), but

because no one really exercises anymore. You have got to burn off what

you put in or it converts to fat. Not only that but your muscles

atrophy (waste/shrink), pain in the knees and back, etc, etc. Exercise

keeps your whole body healthy. Not only is it a great workout for your

heart, but helps build and maintain healthy bones, muscles (builds lean

muscle) and joints, controls weight by reducing fat, it also helps with

fatigue (that is why they tell you not to exercise before going to bed).

This is why most doctors will tell you to " exercise. " They're not

talkin' run a marathon or workout at the gym till you feel you're going

to drop dead. Start out small, walk for 10 or 15 minutes a day. After

a week or 2, add 5, 10 or 15 minutes to your walk. After a while you

can add more exercises to your routine. You don't need a gym to do it

either, buy a set of 3 or 5 pound weights, you can get them at Walmart

and they don't cost much. There are exercise shows on tv that you can

follow, you can buy an exercise tape and follow it at home. Sure it

hurts at first, because it is something that your body isn't used to,

but if you keep at it, it won't hurt anymore. I know this to be true

because I've done it and I am doing it again because I feel better, not

only physically, but mentally. Nothing is impossible if you put your

mind to it.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm not going to bash you, but....

I was a 32 year old person. Very active, I ran stairs everyday, pretty much ran

everything. I was a manager of a wedding chapel. I also stopped at the gym every

morning (ok, so sometimes I skipped a day) before work. I also have 4 young

sons, so that kept me busy. One night, on my way home from work, a jerk from

California decided he needed to run across 3 lanes of traffic, cut in front of

me and make a right turn in front of my. He hit my car instead. I wasn't

injured, per se. I did have a stiff back, shoulder and neck after a day or so. I

went to the doctor and they did numerous xrays. I also had to see a chiro, but

they didn't do alot of " re-adjusting " mostly just massage and some bizzare table

that stretches your spine a little. Slowly but surely, I started to get more and

more tired and stiff. I've carried around some of my symptoms for as long as I

can remember, but the tiredness and stiffness have all started in the last year.

I wasn't overweight, I was very active and still, here I am.

Chris

health

I am probably going to get bashed for this, maybe even set on moderated

or even booted off.......

*I* think that many of the health problems people have these days is

because we have become such a lazy society. Look at how heavy people

are getting, more than 55% of Americans are overweight, more kids are

overweight than ever before. Being heavy leads to a host of problems:

high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, blood sugar problems, very

high cholesterol and triglycerides (blood fats), angina (chest pain

caused by decrease in oxygen to the heart), breathing problems, certain

types of cancer, the list goes on. It's not only because they eat the

wrong things (fast food, microwave meals, cookies & cakes, etc.), but

because no one really exercises anymore. You have got to burn off what

you put in or it converts to fat. Not only that but your muscles

atrophy (waste/shrink), pain in the knees and back, etc, etc. Exercise

keeps your whole body healthy. Not only is it a great workout for your

heart, but helps build and maintain healthy bones, muscles (builds lean

muscle) and joints, controls weight by reducing fat, it also helps with

fatigue (that is why they tell you not to exercise before going to bed).

This is why most doctors will tell you to " exercise. " They're not

talkin' run a marathon or workout at the gym till you feel you're going

to drop dead. Start out small, walk for 10 or 15 minutes a day. After

a week or 2, add 5, 10 or 15 minutes to your walk. After a while you

can add more exercises to your routine. You don't need a gym to do it

either, buy a set of 3 or 5 pound weights, you can get them at Walmart

and they don't cost much. There are exercise shows on tv that you can

follow, you can buy an exercise tape and follow it at home. Sure it

hurts at first, because it is something that your body isn't used to,

but if you keep at it, it won't hurt anymore. I know this to be true

because I've done it and I am doing it again because I feel better, not

only physically, but mentally. Nothing is impossible if you put your

mind to it.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

I was also very active before all hell broke loose, going to the gym

almost everyday and if not there, went rollerblading for a few hours and

may be 10 pounds overweight, but I am talking about now. I know people

hurt because I have the same problem, but when anyone mentions exercise,

automatically people say they can't do it. Instead of not even giving

it a try, give it a few weeks to a month. Its better then sitting/lying

around and letting your muscles (the heart is a muscle) just die.

I know people are gonna be p!$$ed at me for this, but somebody's gotta

stir the pot!

Rhonda

Re: health

Well, I'm not going to bash you, but....

I was a 32 year old person. Very active, I ran stairs everyday, pretty

much ran everything. I was a manager of a wedding chapel. I also stopped

at the gym every morning (ok, so sometimes I skipped a day) before work.

I also have 4 young sons, so that kept me busy. One night, on my way

home from work, a jerk from California decided he needed to run across 3

lanes of traffic, cut in front of me and make a right turn in front of

my. He hit my car instead. I wasn't injured, per se. I did have a stiff

back, shoulder and neck after a day or so. I went to the doctor and they

did numerous xrays. I also had to see a chiro, but they didn't do alot

of " re-adjusting " mostly just massage and some bizzare table that

stretches your spine a little. Slowly but surely, I started to get more

and more tired and stiff. I've carried around some of my symptoms for as

long as I can remember, but the tiredness and stiffness have all started

in the last year. I wasn't overweight, I was very active an!

d still, here I am.

Chris

[Guest guest]

I was also very active before all hell broke loose, going to the gym

almost everyday and if not there, went rollerblading for a few hours and

may be 10 pounds overweight, but I am talking about now. I know people

hurt because I have the same problem, but when anyone mentions exercise,

automatically people say they can't do it. Instead of not even giving

it a try, give it a few weeks to a month. Its better then sitting/lying

around and letting your muscles (the heart is a muscle) just die.

I know people are gonna be p!$$ed at me for this, but somebody's gotta

stir the pot!

Rhonda

Re: health

Well, I'm not going to bash you, but....

I was a 32 year old person. Very active, I ran stairs everyday, pretty

much ran everything. I was a manager of a wedding chapel. I also stopped

at the gym every morning (ok, so sometimes I skipped a day) before work.

I also have 4 young sons, so that kept me busy. One night, on my way

home from work, a jerk from California decided he needed to run across 3

lanes of traffic, cut in front of me and make a right turn in front of

my. He hit my car instead. I wasn't injured, per se. I did have a stiff

back, shoulder and neck after a day or so. I went to the doctor and they

did numerous xrays. I also had to see a chiro, but they didn't do alot

of " re-adjusting " mostly just massage and some bizzare table that

stretches your spine a little. Slowly but surely, I started to get more

and more tired and stiff. I've carried around some of my symptoms for as

long as I can remember, but the tiredness and stiffness have all started

in the last year. I wasn't overweight, I was very active an!

d still, here I am.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

I wasn't saying that the fibro would go away, but that it may not be so

bad/painful. And there wouldn't be added problems such as the ones that

I listed in the initial post. I'm glad you exercise; I believe it not

only helps the body, but also the mind. I can understand having to have

the medication to do it. I take medication also, but I was put on it

after the spinal fusion, after the accident they just continued it.

Rhonda

Re: health

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and

myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

I wasn't saying that the fibro would go away, but that it may not be so

bad/painful. And there wouldn't be added problems such as the ones that

I listed in the initial post. I'm glad you exercise; I believe it not

only helps the body, but also the mind. I can understand having to have

the medication to do it. I take medication also, but I was put on it

after the spinal fusion, after the accident they just continued it.

Rhonda

Re: health

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and

myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

I wasn't saying that the fibro would go away, but that it may not be so

bad/painful. And there wouldn't be added problems such as the ones that

I listed in the initial post. I'm glad you exercise; I believe it not

only helps the body, but also the mind. I can understand having to have

the medication to do it. I take medication also, but I was put on it

after the spinal fusion, after the accident they just continued it.

Rhonda

Re: health

Hello,

I still exercise five days a week. I have severe fibro and

myofacial

pain syndrome anyway. I use a treadmill, do aerobics, light weights, and

situps. I have to be on medication to do it though.

[Guest guest]

No, missed that post. I've had to mass delete a few times because I

haven't been doing much at the computer. I was an exercise junkie, had

to have it, even craved it. People at work used to make fun of me

because I would go to the gym at lunch, then again after work. They

used to wonder why I had so much energy at the end of the day and they

were so tired, just beat! Hmmm.....I wonder.

I used to go to the gym after I had the accident. Then because of

something in an MRI that I had done, was told " no more exercise. " I

wish to God that I had NEVER listened to that doctor. I would have been

better off if I just had kept exercising. (It's a long story, but I

know for sure that I could have kept exercising and would have been

fine!)

Diet may have something to do with it, look at all the preservatives,

hormones and junk, they put in the foods.

I am not saying to push yourself. I did that when I first went back to

the gym because I was so pissed and it did make me sick. But I've

learned to pace it so I won't feel sick. Everyone has limitations, but

how is anyone going to know whether they can do something or not if they

don't try. At least you're doing yoga, some won't even try that. My

next adventure is TaiChi. I was going to take a class anyway, but I

read somewhere that it was good for people with fibro. *I've* got to do

something.

Rhonda

RE: health

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used

to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I

had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can

dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself

too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching

poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the

last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my

diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and

asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar

consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I

often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna

do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

No, missed that post. I've had to mass delete a few times because I

haven't been doing much at the computer. I was an exercise junkie, had

to have it, even craved it. People at work used to make fun of me

because I would go to the gym at lunch, then again after work. They

used to wonder why I had so much energy at the end of the day and they

were so tired, just beat! Hmmm.....I wonder.

I used to go to the gym after I had the accident. Then because of

something in an MRI that I had done, was told " no more exercise. " I

wish to God that I had NEVER listened to that doctor. I would have been

better off if I just had kept exercising. (It's a long story, but I

know for sure that I could have kept exercising and would have been

fine!)

Diet may have something to do with it, look at all the preservatives,

hormones and junk, they put in the foods.

I am not saying to push yourself. I did that when I first went back to

the gym because I was so pissed and it did make me sick. But I've

learned to pace it so I won't feel sick. Everyone has limitations, but

how is anyone going to know whether they can do something or not if they

don't try. At least you're doing yoga, some won't even try that. My

next adventure is TaiChi. I was going to take a class anyway, but I

read somewhere that it was good for people with fibro. *I've* got to do

something.

Rhonda

RE: health

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used

to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I

had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can

dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself

too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching

poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the

last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my

diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and

asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar

consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I

often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna

do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

No, missed that post. I've had to mass delete a few times because I

haven't been doing much at the computer. I was an exercise junkie, had

to have it, even craved it. People at work used to make fun of me

because I would go to the gym at lunch, then again after work. They

used to wonder why I had so much energy at the end of the day and they

were so tired, just beat! Hmmm.....I wonder.

I used to go to the gym after I had the accident. Then because of

something in an MRI that I had done, was told " no more exercise. " I

wish to God that I had NEVER listened to that doctor. I would have been

better off if I just had kept exercising. (It's a long story, but I

know for sure that I could have kept exercising and would have been

fine!)

Diet may have something to do with it, look at all the preservatives,

hormones and junk, they put in the foods.

I am not saying to push yourself. I did that when I first went back to

the gym because I was so pissed and it did make me sick. But I've

learned to pace it so I won't feel sick. Everyone has limitations, but

how is anyone going to know whether they can do something or not if they

don't try. At least you're doing yoga, some won't even try that. My

next adventure is TaiChi. I was going to take a class anyway, but I

read somewhere that it was good for people with fibro. *I've* got to do

something.

Rhonda

RE: health

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used

to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I

had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can

dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself

too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching

poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the

last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my

diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and

asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar

consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I

often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna

do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

Hey, I know every one thinks exercising is the greatest thing since sliced bread

but I wish I had never exercised, I think that is what is causing so much pain

for me now, I will never exercise again like I did a few years ago. Audie

RE: health

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used

to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I

had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can

dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself

too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching

poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the

last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my

diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and

asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar

consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I

often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna

do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

Hey, I know every one thinks exercising is the greatest thing since sliced bread

but I wish I had never exercised, I think that is what is causing so much pain

for me now, I will never exercise again like I did a few years ago. Audie

RE: health

Don't know if you saw the posts recently about the people here who used

to

be exercise nuts before they got Fibro or CFS.

I belly danced 3 to 4 days a week, some times for two hours straight. I

had

a great body, great abdominals, toned arms & legs, etc. I even did some

modeling. Now I dance to one song and I have to take a break. Can

dance to

another 15 minutes later, have to take another break. If I push myself

too

hard, I get sicker.

The only thing I can tolerate is light yoga. More of the stretching

poses

rather than the strengthening poses. I want to have strength but the

last

time I pushed myself on the strengthening poses I got sick afterwards.

I do agree with you about being a lazy society. My parents NEVER paid

attention to what I ate as a kid. So lots of sugar & doritos was my

diet.

Fortunately for me I get cravings for things like watermelon and

asparagus.

But yeah, I could've lived all those years without huge sugar

consumption,

doritos, Burger King...if I had known better or cared at the time. I

often

wonder if my diet then has contributed to my illness now in any way.

Sure people are lazy, but the fact is, some of us here in the group have

limitations and we know if we push beyond those limitations we're gonna

do

ourselves more harm than good.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

> I was also very active before all hell broke loose, going to the gym

> almost everyday and if not there, went rollerblading for a few

hours and

> may be 10 pounds overweight, but I am talking about now. I know

people

> hurt because I have the same problem, but when anyone mentions

exercise,

> automatically people say they can't do it. Instead of not even

giving

> it a try, give it a few weeks to a month. Its better then

sitting/lying

> around and letting your muscles (the heart is a muscle) just die.

>

> I know people are gonna be p!$$ed at me for this, but somebody's

gotta

> stir the pot!

>

> Rhonda

NO, somebody doesn't gotta stir the pot. We face prejudice from

ignorant people who don't understand FMS in our daily lives. Why do

we need it here?? I thought this group was for sharing information

about how to deal with FMS, not for someone to come in and tell us we

got it because we're lazy. We can get that from some bimbo on the

street. Where ARE you? DUH. We don't exercise because it hurts WHEN

we are not treated for FMS!! If you've read at least 2 of the posts

here you can see this is a continuing battle, what works for one

doesn't work for everyone, and we are experimenting to find some

comfort to just deal with everyday life. Do you even have FMS??

Yes, some people are lazy. SO?? That has little to do with FMS IMHO.

And for you to come here to this forum to discuss that is off topic

and out of line. IMHO.

" Instead of not even giving

> it a try, give it a few weeks to a month. Its better then

sitting/lying

> around and letting your muscles (the heart is a muscle) just die. "

>

Just WHO the blue .....are you talking about or to?? I think the

answer is " those people " ...a phrase often used by people who are

judgemental and group people...it's called prejudice. And what

is " IT " ???? There are many kinds of excercise. I'm not going to do

the kind that hurts. If that bothers you...(hmmm..I can't say that) I

will do the kind of exercise that doesn't hurt. Do you know that you

are talking to people who some of us can't walk more than 50 yards

without pain? So you used to rollerblade and go to the gym. Well,

rootty toot for you. Gee you don't think you're superior do you?

[Guest guest]

> Yes, I did know it. After reading her post, is it any wonder?? I

> didn't think I would be called nasty names and be accused of a host

of

> other things, for stating an opinion. Yea, I started it, but why

> should I have to " just take " someone's nastiness? Other members

have

> posted things without outright being nasty. I cannot believe that

this

> group cannot discuss anything without someone being offended and

ripping

> people apart! What is the sense of having a group that is supposed

to

> be about support and suggestions, if everyone gets offended at every

> suggestion that is posted.

>

>

>

> Re: Re: health

>

> Maybe you should watch how you say your " opinions " . You were

> inflammatory (and you knew it). You started your post with this

> knowledge. Don't yell foul now after you have the " pot stirred " . You

> started it and knew what would happen now you can just take it.

>

> =^..^= ^,,^ AlyceAnn ^,,^ =^..^=

>

> " There are no seven wonders of the world in the eyes of a child,

there

> are seven milliion "

> Re: health

>

> > Rhonda

> NO, somebody doesn't gotta stir the pot. We face prejudice from

> ignorant people who don't understand FMS in our daily lives. Why

do

> we need it here?? I thought this group was for sharing

information

> about how to deal with FMS, not for someone to come in and tell

us we

> got it because we're lazy. We can get that from some bimbo on the

> street. Where ARE you? DUH. We don't exercise because it hurts

WHEN

> we are not treated for FMS!! If you've read at least 2 of the

posts

> here you can see this is a continuing battle, what works for one

> doesn't work for everyone, and we are experimenting to find some

> comfort to just deal with everyday life. Do you even have FMS??

> Yes, some people are lazy. SO?? That has little to do with FMS

IMHO.

> And for you to come here to this forum to discuss that is off

topic

> and out of line. IMHO.

>

> Just WHO the blue .....are you talking about or to?? I think the

> answer is " those people " ...a phrase often used by people who are

> judgemental and group people...it's called prejudice. And what

> is " IT " ???? There are many kinds of excercise. I'm not going to

do

> the kind that hurts. If that bothers you...(hmmm..I can't say

that) I

> will do the kind of exercise that doesn't hurt. Do you know that

you

> are talking to people who some of us can't walk more than 50

yards

> without pain? So you used to rollerblade and go to the gym. Well,

> rootty toot for you. Gee you don't think you're superior do you?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> Yes, I did know it. After reading her post, is it any wonder?? I

> didn't think I would be called nasty names and be accused of a host

of

> other things, for stating an opinion. Yea, I started it, but why

> should I have to " just take " someone's nastiness? Other members

have

> posted things without outright being nasty. I cannot believe that

this

> group cannot discuss anything without someone being offended and

ripping

> people apart! What is the sense of having a group that is supposed

to

> be about support and suggestions, if everyone gets offended at every

> suggestion that is posted.

>

>

>

> Re: Re: health

>

> Maybe you should watch how you say your " opinions " . You were

> inflammatory (and you knew it). You started your post with this

> knowledge. Don't yell foul now after you have the " pot stirred " . You

> started it and knew what would happen now you can just take it.

>

> =^..^= ^,,^ AlyceAnn ^,,^ =^..^=

>

> " There are no seven wonders of the world in the eyes of a child,

there

> are seven milliion "

> Re: health

>

> > Rhonda

> NO, somebody doesn't gotta stir the pot. We face prejudice from

> ignorant people who don't understand FMS in our daily lives. Why

do

> we need it here?? I thought this group was for sharing

information

> about how to deal with FMS, not for someone to come in and tell

us we

> got it because we're lazy. We can get that from some bimbo on the

> street. Where ARE you? DUH. We don't exercise because it hurts

WHEN

> we are not treated for FMS!! If you've read at least 2 of the

posts

> here you can see this is a continuing battle, what works for one

> doesn't work for everyone, and we are experimenting to find some

> comfort to just deal with everyday life. Do you even have FMS??

> Yes, some people are lazy. SO?? That has little to do with FMS

IMHO.

> And for you to come here to this forum to discuss that is off

topic

> and out of line. IMHO.

>

> Just WHO the blue .....are you talking about or to?? I think the

> answer is " those people " ...a phrase often used by people who are

> judgemental and group people...it's called prejudice. And what

> is " IT " ???? There are many kinds of excercise. I'm not going to

do

> the kind that hurts. If that bothers you...(hmmm..I can't say

that) I

> will do the kind of exercise that doesn't hurt. Do you know that

you

> are talking to people who some of us can't walk more than 50

yards

> without pain? So you used to rollerblade and go to the gym. Well,

> rootty toot for you. Gee you don't think you're superior do you?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs@y...

>

> HOME

> PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-

cfs.html

> LIST OWNER: " Missy "

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>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> The book " Fibromyalgia, Simple Relief through Movement, " is filled

with

> exercises, movements, stretches, etc.

>

>

>

> Re: health

>

> >

> This conversation deteriorated before your post,but I am glad to

see

> your post. Do you do range of motion excercises? Are you doing

these

> on your own or from a book any kind of professional? I would be

> interested in knowing which excercises are good for relieving pain,

> but I don't see much in the book that I bought.

I misread that last post. I thought you were somebody else...LOL..the

wonders of the internet. Oh, well. I did get some good info. and you

did say that you could have worded things better. It's just that I do

not " explain " or " excuse " myself for anybody. And some people were

writting to tell you what kind of excersize they do, like you were

the excersize police. And yes, it offended. But, let's get over it. K?

Life is too short. Shake?

[Guest guest]

> The book " Fibromyalgia, Simple Relief through Movement, " is filled

with

> exercises, movements, stretches, etc.

>

>

>

> Re: health

>

> >

> This conversation deteriorated before your post,but I am glad to

see

> your post. Do you do range of motion excercises? Are you doing

these

> on your own or from a book any kind of professional? I would be

> interested in knowing which excercises are good for relieving pain,

> but I don't see much in the book that I bought.

I misread that last post. I thought you were somebody else...LOL..the

wonders of the internet. Oh, well. I did get some good info. and you

did say that you could have worded things better. It's just that I do

not " explain " or " excuse " myself for anybody. And some people were

writting to tell you what kind of excersize they do, like you were

the excersize police. And yes, it offended. But, let's get over it. K?

Life is too short. Shake?

[Guest guest]

> The book " Fibromyalgia, Simple Relief through Movement, " is filled

with

> exercises, movements, stretches, etc.

>

>

>

> Re: health

>

> >

> This conversation deteriorated before your post,but I am glad to

see

> your post. Do you do range of motion excercises? Are you doing

these

> on your own or from a book any kind of professional? I would be

> interested in knowing which excercises are good for relieving pain,

> but I don't see much in the book that I bought.

I misread that last post. I thought you were somebody else...LOL..the

wonders of the internet. Oh, well. I did get some good info. and you

did say that you could have worded things better. It's just that I do

not " explain " or " excuse " myself for anybody. And some people were

writting to tell you what kind of excersize they do, like you were

the excersize police. And yes, it offended. But, let's get over it. K?

Life is too short. Shake?

[Guest guest]

> The book " Fibromyalgia, Simple Relief through Movement, " is filled

with

> exercises, movements, stretches, etc.

>

>

>

> Re: health

>

> >

> This conversation deteriorated before your post,but I am glad to

see

> your post. Do you do range of motion excercises? Are you doing

these

> on your own or from a book any kind of professional? I would be

> interested in knowing which excercises are good for relieving pain,

> but I don't see much in the book that I bought.

I'm too lazy to read a whole book isn't there a video somewhere?ROTFL

I just found out I have FMS, and I already have 2 books to read.

[Guest guest]

> The book " Fibromyalgia, Simple Relief through Movement, " is filled

with

> exercises, movements, stretches, etc.

>

>

>

> Re: health

>

> >

> This conversation deteriorated before your post,but I am glad to

see

> your post. Do you do range of motion excercises? Are you doing

these

> on your own or from a book any kind of professional? I would be

> interested in knowing which excercises are good for relieving pain,

> but I don't see much in the book that I bought.

I'm too lazy to read a whole book isn't there a video somewhere?ROTFL

I just found out I have FMS, and I already have 2 books to read.