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Greetings :)

I've been out of town for a few days and the digests have really piled up.

So, I'm going to try to respond to everything in one (hopefully) small

post...

Allicia posted: <

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Once you find out where to order that, I want one too

posted: <

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I have to add my thanks to 's. I know how I am; I get all gung-ho

about doing something new and go way overboard. The result is always the

same: I don't follow the new diet/exercise regimen/life philosophy for very

long. I'm trying to make small changes, starting with eating more fresh

veggies and fruit, eliminating artificial sweeteners from my diet and doing

a little bit of yoga or tai chi in the evenings to start to recondition my

poor atrophied-feeling muscles.

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I'm not jealous of the skinny folks with fibro; i'm jealous of the healthier

folks, whatever their weight is...

posted: <>

That sounds like me... But now, I have to do my housework in 10-15 minute

increments with at least 10-15 minute rest periods in between and I'm STILL

exhausted after doing just the bare essentials. Some days, I look around

the house and it seems like all I see are the things that are undone...

Janet Gruhn posted: <

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I took Elavil and didn't gain any weight on it. Of course, at that time I

was also working my butt off at the Y 2-3 hours a day, thinking that I could

exercise the Fibro symptoms away. My doc didn't warn me about possible

weight gain with any of the meds I've taken. I think they *should* mention

that, especially to people like me, who are already overweight.

But sometimes I think they're afraid to mention it, since so many people are

sensitive about weight issues and I personally know a couple of doctors

who've had their heads ripped off by patients when they suggested the

patient try to lose even five pounds...

Darcy Stockstill posted: <

Each of us has different

reasons for not following her suggestion, it may be too expensive for some,

for others their family doesn't even accept that they are sick let alone be

willing to change their diet, and there are others who know it would make us

sicker, not better. What helps one doesn't help another across the boards.

We are not all the same, and it isn't helpful to be told that we are being

petulant for not taking up with someone's advice, no matter how well it

worked for them.>>

I can tell that Mick is a very good-hearted person and I wouldn't purposely

hurt her (or anyone else's) feelings, but I have to agree with Darcy on this

one. I have read umpteen times in the past weeks about the wonders of

Mick's recovery and I'm truly glad for her. I appreciate that she wants to

help others, but there comes a point when helpfulness comes to be perceived

as pushiness. I know that Mick's diet & exercise regimen isn't going to

work for everyone--for the reasons that Darcy mentioned-- and having it

repeated over and over is going to turn a lot of people off.

Personally, I am trying to incorporate more fruits and veggies into my diet

and eat less processed foods and artificial sweeteners. I did not decide to

do this because of Mick's miraculous experience. Common sense tells me that

it's healthier; I really don't think anyone on this list will argue against

that point. But for me to follow her strict regimen is simply unrealistic at

this time and it's just not gonna happen, whether she tells the group about

it 5 million times.

Irene posted: <>

OMG, I didn't know that and I took Paxil for close to a year! Didn't lose

an ounce while taking it, but didn't gain anything either and I was taking

it at the same time that I was using the Duragesic patches, which left me so

lethargic that going to the Y to work out took way too much effort.

nne posted: <

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I took melatonin for a while and it helped me to get to sleep more easily.

I didn't notice any grogginess the morning after. I don't know about

allergic reactions, since that's not a problem for me. Now that I think

about it, I can't remember why I stopped taking it...

Mick posted: <>

It's your right to believe whatever you want, but don't you think that

others have just as much right to their beliefs as you do to your own?

I think it's safe to say that we all understand your POV, but you really

should respect our right to have different opinions.

Mick also posted: <

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Okay, you've shared... and shared... and shared... and shared your

experience with us. How many times do we get to hear how wonderfully you're

doing before you think it's sunk into our brains sufficiently? Can we go on

to discuss other topics now? I'm sure you've got many other wonderful

things to share with us, so please stop beating the poor dead diet horse and

move on to something new.

I don't mean to be rude about it, but since I am catching up on 13 digests'

worth of posts, I'm getting to see just exactly how much time and energy is

being spent on this one topic and, frankly, it's a bit much for me to deal

with! It's beginning to remind me of the way that new religious converts

become overzealous and think they need to go save everyone who follows a

religion other than theirs. I don't really want to scroll past your emails

in case you have something new to say, but I'm really getting to the point

where I'm going to start doing it.

Allicia posted: <

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Personally, I think that's a fabulous idea and I am not going to post in

reference to it anymore, since I've had my say and I don't intend to pound

my opinion into the ground.

In other news: My pain doctor referred me to a chiropractor, who I think

may do me some good. He has done two adjustments to my neck (where at least

40% of my Fibro pain is located) to help correct the alignment of my top 2

cervical vertebrae and I have to admit that the pain I feel is a bit less in

intensity and just feels different now than it did before.

He also gave me a recipe for a drink he learned about at a nutritional

seminar. It's pretty simple to make, not too expensive, and it even tastes

pretty good. He says that it's to help minimize inflammation and pain in

the muscles. I'm trying it this week and, if it helps, I'll definitely

continue drinking it. It might not be good for those with GERDS or IBS,

since it contains ginger, which I think is a possible stomach-irritant.

To make it you take a gallon of water and heat it to almost boiling. Turn

the burner down to simmer and add 4 green tea bags (decaf or regular both

work the same and I actually prefer decaf, since caffeine causes an increase

in my pain). Allow the tea to steep for an hour, then remove the tea bags.

Add 1/2 pound of thinly sliced fresh ginger root to the tea and steep for at

least 4 hours; I left mine overnight. You can drink it cold or heated. I

add honey to mine for sweetening and drink it cold.

Well, if you've managed to hang in and read thru this whole post, I'm amazed

and honored. When I come out of lurk mode, I *really* come out... LOL

" Let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility,

mirth and reverance within you, "

-Mareth

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