Re: RTM: Tholen: Diet Coke has 5 ppm formaldehyde from aspartame 5.30.2 rmforall

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Hey, I drink a lot of diet Pepsi and diet Coke, could that make fibro worse?

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RTM: Tholen: Diet Coke has 5 ppm formaldehyde from

aspartame 5.30.2 rmforall

RTM: Tholen: Diet Coke has 5 ppm formaldehyde from aspartame

5.30.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/830

Both Tholen in 2002 and Cohen in 1997 found that formaldehyde levels

from aspartame in Diet Coke were lower after weeks at 104 and 130

degrees F.

However, Tholen found about 5 ppm formaldehyde, versus the maximum of

0.231 ppm by Cohen for 7 new cans kept 70 days at about 69 degrees F.

This is about 20X more. Could it be that Tholen's Diet Coke was much

older, allowing much more time for its aspartame to decompose into

formaldehyde?

Or did Tholen's Diet Coke contain much higher levels of aspartame to

begin with?

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FOOD & DRUG BRANCH

DEPARTMENT OF TOXICS

DIVISION OF DRINKING WATER &

ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT

http://www.dhs.cahwnet.gov/ps/ddwem/chemicals/AL/actionlevels.htm

California Dept. of Health Services

Drinking Water Action Levels: Contaminants of Current Interest

Last Update: May 2, 2002 [extracts]

Action Levels (ALs) are health-based advisory levels established

by DHS for chemicals in drinking water that lack

maximum contaminant levels (MCLs). Chemicals for

which ALs are established may eventually be regulated

by MCLs, depending on the extent of contamination,

the levels observed, and the risk to human health.

An AL is the level of a contaminant in drinking water

that is considered not to pose a significant health risk to

people ingesting that water on a daily basis. It is calculated

using standard risk assessment methods for

non-cancer and cancer endpoints, and typical exposure assumptions,

including a 2-liter per day ingestion rate, a

70-kilogram adult body weight, and a 70-year lifetime.

Removal of Source from Service (Recommendation):

DHS recommends that the drinking water system take

the source out of service if a contaminant is present at more than:

10 times the AL, if the AL is based on noncancer endpoints.

A level greater than 10 times the AL reduces

the margin of safety provided by the AL.

Formaldehyde (noncancer) 0.1 mg/L [ppm] Action Level

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This means that a level 10X greater, 1 ppm, would not be allowed in

drinking water. For an average 2 L daily drinking water,

that would be 2 mg maxium allowable daily ingestion

of formaldehyde for an adult.

Two liters equals 5.6 12-oz cans of Diet Coke, which, according to

Tholen, would provide as much as 5 ppm formaldehyde, 28 mg,

14X more than the California allowable limit. Likewise, the methanol

supplied, 112 mg in 2 L Diet Coke, is 14X the EPA limit for drinking

water. Many aspartame reactors, reporting a typical serious

symptom suite, use diet drinks and other sources of aspartame at

a level of 2 L daily and more.

http://www.dorway.com/wmonte.txt

Dr. Woodrow C. Monte, " Aspartame: Methanol, and the Public Health, "

Journal of Applied Nutrition, Volume 36, No. 1, pages 42-54, 1984.

(62 references) Professsor of Food Science

Director of the Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory

Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona 85287

6411 South River Drive #61 Tempe, Arizona 85283-3337

woody.monte@...

The methanol from 2 L of diet soda, 5.6 12-oz cans, 20 mg/can, is

112 mg, 10% of the aspartame. The EPA limit for water is 7.8 mg daily

for methanol (wood alcohol), a deadly cumulative poison. Many users

drink 1-2 L daily. The reported symptoms are entirely consistent

with chronic methanol toxicity. (Fresh orange juice has 34 mg/L, but,

like all juices, has 16 times more ethanol, which strongly protects

against methanol.)

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Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@...

1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe NM USA 87505

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RTM: Tholen: Diet Coke has 5 ppm formaldehyde from aspartame

5.29.2 rmforall

For 6 cans of diet soda, this is 14 times the daily limit for

formaldehyde

in drinking water, set by the California Dept. of Health Services,

Div. Drinking Water and Environmental Management

Drinking Water Action Levels: Contaminants of Current Interest

Last Update: May 2, 2002

http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html 5-page review

" Aspartame (NutraSweet) Addiction "

H.J. in " Townsend Letter " , Jan 2000 HJMD@...

http://www.sunsentpress.com/ sunsentpress@...

Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416

fax

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/669

1038-page medical text " Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic "

published May 30 2001 $ 85.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases

available at http://www.amazon.com

over 600 references from standard medical research

http://www.aspartameispoison.com/contents.html 34 chapters

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/790

RTM: Moseley:

review " Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic " 2.7.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/652

Ann Pharmacother 2001 Jun;35(6):702-6

Relief of fibromyalgia symptoms following

discontinuation of dietary excitotoxins.

terpening@... cterpeni@...

JD, Terpening CM, Schmidt SO, Gums JG.

Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.

gums@... siggy@...

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RTM: , Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:

full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall

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Rich Murray: Professional House Doctors: Singer: EPA: CPSC:

formaldehyde toxicity 6.10.1 rmforall

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Rich Murray: 18 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] abstracts

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