Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 In a message dated 06/01/2000 5:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: << Anyone from Kentucky out there? I live in Louisville and would have to travel to NC for the surgery. I was wondering if insurance pays for this out of state (network)????? >> Hi Tammy, Welcome! I read started this road in November. I am in the appeal stage hoping for approval next week! I am in Versailles, KY. It would be great if we could both get approval at the same time and be " littermates " Sharon In KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 In a message dated 06/01/2000 5:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: << Anyone from Kentucky out there? I live in Louisville and would have to travel to NC for the surgery. I was wondering if insurance pays for this out of state (network)????? >> Hi Tammy, Welcome! I read started this road in November. I am in the appeal stage hoping for approval next week! I am in Versailles, KY. It would be great if we could both get approval at the same time and be " littermates " Sharon In KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 In a message dated 06/01/2000 5:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: << Anyone from Kentucky out there? I live in Louisville and would have to travel to NC for the surgery. I was wondering if insurance pays for this out of state (network)????? >> Hi Tammy, Welcome! I read started this road in November. I am in the appeal stage hoping for approval next week! I am in Versailles, KY. It would be great if we could both get approval at the same time and be " littermates " Sharon In KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 > In a message dated 06/01/2000 5:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: > > << > Anyone from Kentucky out there? I live in Louisville and would have to > travel to NC for the surgery. I was wondering if insurance pays for this out > of state (network)????? > >> > Hi Tammy, > Welcome! I read started this road in November. I am in the appeal stage > hoping for approval next week! I am in Versailles, KY. > It would be great if we could both get approval at the same time and be > " littermates " > Sharon In KY > sharon, what kind of insurance do you have, who is the insurance co. what was thier reason for the denial. Were haveing the same problem in Michigan with BC/BS. Were deemed experimental up here. How many surgeries does the poor man have to do before they wake up? good luck > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Savings + service + convenience = beMANY! > http://click.egroups.com/1/4116/2/_/453517/_/959903559/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 > In a message dated 06/01/2000 5:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: > > << > Anyone from Kentucky out there? I live in Louisville and would have to > travel to NC for the surgery. I was wondering if insurance pays for this out > of state (network)????? > >> > Hi Tammy, > Welcome! I read started this road in November. I am in the appeal stage > hoping for approval next week! I am in Versailles, KY. > It would be great if we could both get approval at the same time and be > " littermates " > Sharon In KY > sharon, what kind of insurance do you have, who is the insurance co. what was thier reason for the denial. Were haveing the same problem in Michigan with BC/BS. Were deemed experimental up here. How many surgeries does the poor man have to do before they wake up? good luck > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Savings + service + convenience = beMANY! > http://click.egroups.com/1/4116/2/_/453517/_/959903559/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 In a message dated 6/1/00 4:42:23 PM Central Daylight Time, MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes: << Message: 10 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:00:53 -0000 From: dwester@... Subject: Look for info Can anyone out there tell me whether you get sagging skin after the MGB surgery? I have had some conflicting information and this is something I have seen when people lose weight quickly? What can be done to prevent this from happening, if it does happen? DW Mississippi ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:03:24 -0000 From: dwester@... Subject: gallbladder Hello out there Does anyone have info on what happens to the gallbladder and the bile it excretes into the stomach after having MGB surgery? DW Mississippi ________________________________________________________________________ >> Good questions wondering the same things never saw reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 , What's a theraband? Who do you prefer a physical therapist or chiropractor? Char Char~ I walk and I also use a 'Theraband'. I got it when I went to physical therapy. It's not too bad. It does wear me out though. I like walking much better! ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 , What's a theraband? Who do you prefer a physical therapist or chiropractor? Char Char~ I walk and I also use a 'Theraband'. I got it when I went to physical therapy. It's not too bad. It does wear me out though. I like walking much better! ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 , What's a theraband? Who do you prefer a physical therapist or chiropractor? Char Char~ I walk and I also use a 'Theraband'. I got it when I went to physical therapy. It's not too bad. It does wear me out though. I like walking much better! ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Char~ A theraband is a rubber tube. The further you go back the more resistance there is. It's pretty cool. I have been to a physical therapist and I didn't care for the therapist. I was in more pain from the workout they had me doing than the chiropractor. I have a couple of tough spots and he has to really push hard, but afterwards I feel great. It's just a minute of pain then it's gone and my back feels good. I am almost done with my treatment. I have 2 more visits then I go back in 3 months, then every 6 for adjustments. Not too bad I don't think. If you do try going to a chiropractor make sure they know how to treat fibromyalgia. My chiropractor specialzes in Fibro. I wouldn't go to just anyone. Reserch the chiropractor and make sure they know what they are doing. You should do that with any doctor you are going to see. ~specializesResearch --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Char~ A theraband is a rubber tube. The further you go back the more resistance there is. It's pretty cool. I have been to a physical therapist and I didn't care for the therapist. I was in more pain from the workout they had me doing than the chiropractor. I have a couple of tough spots and he has to really push hard, but afterwards I feel great. It's just a minute of pain then it's gone and my back feels good. I am almost done with my treatment. I have 2 more visits then I go back in 3 months, then every 6 for adjustments. Not too bad I don't think. If you do try going to a chiropractor make sure they know how to treat fibromyalgia. My chiropractor specialzes in Fibro. I wouldn't go to just anyone. Reserch the chiropractor and make sure they know what they are doing. You should do that with any doctor you are going to see. ~specializesResearch --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Char~ A theraband is a rubber tube. The further you go back the more resistance there is. It's pretty cool. I have been to a physical therapist and I didn't care for the therapist. I was in more pain from the workout they had me doing than the chiropractor. I have a couple of tough spots and he has to really push hard, but afterwards I feel great. It's just a minute of pain then it's gone and my back feels good. I am almost done with my treatment. I have 2 more visits then I go back in 3 months, then every 6 for adjustments. Not too bad I don't think. If you do try going to a chiropractor make sure they know how to treat fibromyalgia. My chiropractor specialzes in Fibro. I wouldn't go to just anyone. Reserch the chiropractor and make sure they know what they are doing. You should do that with any doctor you are going to see. ~specializesResearch --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 have any of you had FM and it turned out to be MS or lupus? my labs finally came back normal but my joints are hurting like never before in areas that get lots of pressure from sitting or gardening. my hands feel hot, like radiating heat and just ache which I never had before. went to a rheumatologist for second opinion, she says its just FM, have I tried massage...which I've been scraping the money for and going over 10 years but my joints need more for this horrible pain can a person have RA and have " normal " labs? if I could just sleep well and not wake in pain, I can work it out by bedtime then its time to start over insurance will now not cover the cpap I borrowed as I don't have apnea, just a sleep disorder. they'll pay $1200 for another study but not $1200 for a machine which has been helping! I'm actually dreaming on the nights I used it. taking Ambien helps me sleep but I feel depressed the next day, bummer. so many magazines and programs for other disorders. I put together a 3 week course for self help using resources from the Arthritis Foundation, what I learned over 10 years myself and as a nurse, had to cancel it all 4 times due to lack of people! how many of you know more than your doctor too! they just don't know what to tell you so we get no where. I'm having a bone scan friday and I'm sure if its something like cancer I'll finally get my pain addressed. Isn't it a shame to think like that. has anyone found an anti-depressant that helps with the pain and fatigue. I've tried most of them with only side effects, tried 5-htp, SAM-E, St 's wort too. keep going back to my ultra young spray but feel I need more help. with there was pure serotonin. thanks for your understanding! blessings, Marie www.anaturalplace.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 have any of you had FM and it turned out to be MS or lupus? my labs finally came back normal but my joints are hurting like never before in areas that get lots of pressure from sitting or gardening. my hands feel hot, like radiating heat and just ache which I never had before. went to a rheumatologist for second opinion, she says its just FM, have I tried massage...which I've been scraping the money for and going over 10 years but my joints need more for this horrible pain can a person have RA and have " normal " labs? if I could just sleep well and not wake in pain, I can work it out by bedtime then its time to start over insurance will now not cover the cpap I borrowed as I don't have apnea, just a sleep disorder. they'll pay $1200 for another study but not $1200 for a machine which has been helping! I'm actually dreaming on the nights I used it. taking Ambien helps me sleep but I feel depressed the next day, bummer. so many magazines and programs for other disorders. I put together a 3 week course for self help using resources from the Arthritis Foundation, what I learned over 10 years myself and as a nurse, had to cancel it all 4 times due to lack of people! how many of you know more than your doctor too! they just don't know what to tell you so we get no where. I'm having a bone scan friday and I'm sure if its something like cancer I'll finally get my pain addressed. Isn't it a shame to think like that. has anyone found an anti-depressant that helps with the pain and fatigue. I've tried most of them with only side effects, tried 5-htp, SAM-E, St 's wort too. keep going back to my ultra young spray but feel I need more help. with there was pure serotonin. thanks for your understanding! blessings, Marie www.anaturalplace.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 have any of you had FM and it turned out to be MS or lupus? my labs finally came back normal but my joints are hurting like never before in areas that get lots of pressure from sitting or gardening. my hands feel hot, like radiating heat and just ache which I never had before. went to a rheumatologist for second opinion, she says its just FM, have I tried massage...which I've been scraping the money for and going over 10 years but my joints need more for this horrible pain can a person have RA and have " normal " labs? if I could just sleep well and not wake in pain, I can work it out by bedtime then its time to start over insurance will now not cover the cpap I borrowed as I don't have apnea, just a sleep disorder. they'll pay $1200 for another study but not $1200 for a machine which has been helping! I'm actually dreaming on the nights I used it. taking Ambien helps me sleep but I feel depressed the next day, bummer. so many magazines and programs for other disorders. I put together a 3 week course for self help using resources from the Arthritis Foundation, what I learned over 10 years myself and as a nurse, had to cancel it all 4 times due to lack of people! how many of you know more than your doctor too! they just don't know what to tell you so we get no where. I'm having a bone scan friday and I'm sure if its something like cancer I'll finally get my pain addressed. Isn't it a shame to think like that. has anyone found an anti-depressant that helps with the pain and fatigue. I've tried most of them with only side effects, tried 5-htp, SAM-E, St 's wort too. keep going back to my ultra young spray but feel I need more help. with there was pure serotonin. thanks for your understanding! blessings, Marie www.anaturalplace.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Hello You asked if a person can have normal labs and still have RA..the answer is yes….there is a sero negative RA which my husband and I have.. Has your sed rate been checked and a bone scan done ?? Sometimes massage is not recommended for a flare time if you have RA or sero negative RA.. Has an ANA test been done on your blood work or what tests have been run The fact your joints are hot is not a good sign, RA can attack the hands and fingers wrists and ankles and feet…the smaller joints They told my husband and I for two years it was just fibro….well it is fibro but it is also sero negative RA..so we are being treated with a DMARD disease modifying agent…imovane to sleep What are the symptoms of RA? * Joint pain * Joint swelling * Joint warmth * Stiffness, especially in the morning or after sitting for long periods * Fatigue What parts of the body does RA affect? RA primarily affects the small joints in the hands and feet. Also, RA affects already damaged joints or those that are used frequently, such as the feet, knees and shoulders. RA involving the hands tends to be more severe in the dominant hand. RA involving the hands, wrists, elbows and shoulders adversely affects your ability to perform tasks. RA affecting the feet, ankles, knees and hips adversely affects mobility. Some patients develop Sjögren’s syndrome, characterized by dry eyes and dry mouth. Eye irritation, difficulty swallowing and difficulty talking add to the misery of joint pain and deformity. Many people with advanced RA have neck involvement, which causes pain and difficulty moving or turning their head. There is a danger that one of the neck vertebrae may slip into the spinal canal, causing compression of the spinal cord. Loss of feeling in your arms and legs and paralysis can result. Many patients have mild anemia. Anemia may be secondary to drug therapy, or may be related to the inflammatory process. The white cell and platelet counts are often elevated during periods of active inflammation. How is RA diagnosed? There is no single test to confirm a diagnosis of RA. Your medical history and a physical exam are the most important. Other tests either confirm or contradict the diagnosis of RA. Certain physical, laboratory and radiographic tests confirm the diagnosis and exclude other diseases. These tests include: * Clinical history * Physical examination * Laboratory investigations * Imaging studies such as X-rays or the Electron Spin * Resonance Test * Bone Scan * I hope this helps in some way but I think your doctor needs to do a few more tests especially the bone scan and sed rate Sincerely Re: Digest Number 1439 have any of you had FM and it turned out to be MS or lupus? my labs finally came back normal but my joints are hurting like never before in areas that get lots of pressure from sitting or gardening. my hands feel hot, like radiating heat and just ache which I never had before. went to a rheumatologist for second opinion, she says its just FM, have I tried massage...which I've been scraping the money for and going over 10 years but my joints need more for this horrible pain can a person have RA and have " normal " labs? if I could just sleep well and not wake in pain, I can work it out by bedtime then its time to start over insurance will now not cover the cpap I borrowed as I don't have apnea, just a sleep disorder. they'll pay $1200 for another study but not $1200 for a machine which has been helping! I'm actually dreaming on the nights I used it. taking Ambien helps me sleep but I feel depressed the next day, bummer. so many magazines and programs for other disorders. I put together a 3 week course for self help using resources from the Arthritis Foundation, what I learned over 10 years myself and as a nurse, had to cancel it all 4 times due to lack of people! how many of you know more than your doctor too! they just don't know what to tell you so we get no where. I'm having a bone scan friday and I'm sure if its something like cancer I'll finally get my pain addressed. Isn't it a shame to think like that. has anyone found an anti-depressant that helps with the pain and fatigue. I've tried most of them with only side effects, tried 5-htp, SAM-E, St 's wort too. keep going back to my ultra young spray but feel I need more help. with there was pure serotonin. thanks for your understanding! blessings, Marie www.anaturalplace.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-cfs.html LIST OWNER: " Missy " Parrot004@...> UNSUBSCRIBE:fibromyalgia-cfs-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Hello You asked if a person can have normal labs and still have RA..the answer is yes….there is a sero negative RA which my husband and I have.. Has your sed rate been checked and a bone scan done ?? Sometimes massage is not recommended for a flare time if you have RA or sero negative RA.. Has an ANA test been done on your blood work or what tests have been run The fact your joints are hot is not a good sign, RA can attack the hands and fingers wrists and ankles and feet…the smaller joints They told my husband and I for two years it was just fibro….well it is fibro but it is also sero negative RA..so we are being treated with a DMARD disease modifying agent…imovane to sleep What are the symptoms of RA? * Joint pain * Joint swelling * Joint warmth * Stiffness, especially in the morning or after sitting for long periods * Fatigue What parts of the body does RA affect? RA primarily affects the small joints in the hands and feet. Also, RA affects already damaged joints or those that are used frequently, such as the feet, knees and shoulders. RA involving the hands tends to be more severe in the dominant hand. RA involving the hands, wrists, elbows and shoulders adversely affects your ability to perform tasks. RA affecting the feet, ankles, knees and hips adversely affects mobility. Some patients develop Sjögren’s syndrome, characterized by dry eyes and dry mouth. Eye irritation, difficulty swallowing and difficulty talking add to the misery of joint pain and deformity. Many people with advanced RA have neck involvement, which causes pain and difficulty moving or turning their head. There is a danger that one of the neck vertebrae may slip into the spinal canal, causing compression of the spinal cord. Loss of feeling in your arms and legs and paralysis can result. Many patients have mild anemia. Anemia may be secondary to drug therapy, or may be related to the inflammatory process. The white cell and platelet counts are often elevated during periods of active inflammation. How is RA diagnosed? There is no single test to confirm a diagnosis of RA. Your medical history and a physical exam are the most important. Other tests either confirm or contradict the diagnosis of RA. Certain physical, laboratory and radiographic tests confirm the diagnosis and exclude other diseases. These tests include: * Clinical history * Physical examination * Laboratory investigations * Imaging studies such as X-rays or the Electron Spin * Resonance Test * Bone Scan * I hope this helps in some way but I think your doctor needs to do a few more tests especially the bone scan and sed rate Sincerely Re: Digest Number 1439 have any of you had FM and it turned out to be MS or lupus? my labs finally came back normal but my joints are hurting like never before in areas that get lots of pressure from sitting or gardening. my hands feel hot, like radiating heat and just ache which I never had before. went to a rheumatologist for second opinion, she says its just FM, have I tried massage...which I've been scraping the money for and going over 10 years but my joints need more for this horrible pain can a person have RA and have " normal " labs? if I could just sleep well and not wake in pain, I can work it out by bedtime then its time to start over insurance will now not cover the cpap I borrowed as I don't have apnea, just a sleep disorder. they'll pay $1200 for another study but not $1200 for a machine which has been helping! I'm actually dreaming on the nights I used it. taking Ambien helps me sleep but I feel depressed the next day, bummer. so many magazines and programs for other disorders. I put together a 3 week course for self help using resources from the Arthritis Foundation, what I learned over 10 years myself and as a nurse, had to cancel it all 4 times due to lack of people! how many of you know more than your doctor too! they just don't know what to tell you so we get no where. I'm having a bone scan friday and I'm sure if its something like cancer I'll finally get my pain addressed. Isn't it a shame to think like that. has anyone found an anti-depressant that helps with the pain and fatigue. I've tried most of them with only side effects, tried 5-htp, SAM-E, St 's wort too. keep going back to my ultra young spray but feel I need more help. with there was pure serotonin. thanks for your understanding! blessings, Marie www.anaturalplace.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-cfs.html LIST OWNER: " Missy " Parrot004@...> UNSUBSCRIBE:fibromyalgia-cfs-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Marie, Sorry you sound so down about all this right now. It's possible that the Fibro alone is causing you this great pain. Most of us find sitting for long periods of time painful as well. I think it is possible to have RA with a negative blood work. I'm not sure though. Didn't someone mention Sero negative RA? Isn't that what that is? So ti's possible. I myself have had some confusing blood work. My first test showed an incredibly high ANA titer, indicating Lupus, and my blood was speckled, indicating an immune response. My last bloodwork turned up completely negative. No speckled blood, no high ANA titer, nothing. My doctor still thinks there is something going on other than Fibro, and he said that depending upon your health, and nutrition, and multiple other factors, they can all affect your bloodwork. Hard to imagine feeling as horrible as I was at that time, and having nothing show up in the blood though. So who knows. But he's convinced there's something going on, something of an inflammatory disease, since he gave me a steroid shot and it helped immensely. In fact, I was totally pain free for almost 3 days. To my doctor, this means that it's not Fibro, but some other disease, since Fibro doesn't have an inflammatory response. I'm not so sure. I've heard from others that steroids helped their Fibro. I guess the point of this too long post, is don't give up hope. I know your pain is bad right now, and maybe it is all from the Fibro, but as you said, maybe something else will be found, something more treatable. As for getting pain relief, switch doctors. If your doctor isn't giving you pain killers now, I doubt he would even if you turned out to have cancer(which I hope you don't). Just my advice. Take care, and feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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