Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein vs Goat Casein

February 28, 2006

It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

milk allergy.

Unfortunate, but true.

Suzanne

February 28, 2006

It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

milk allergy.

Unfortunate, but true.

Suzanne

February 28, 2006

It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

milk allergy.

Unfortunate, but true.

Suzanne

February 28, 2006

>

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction to cow

and

goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at times, then

only goat for

a time and occasionally neither.

The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a lot of

them

are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

Carol F.

February 28, 2006

>

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction to cow

and

goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at times, then

only goat for

a time and occasionally neither.

The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a lot of

them

are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

Carol F.

February 28, 2006

>

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction to cow

and

goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at times, then

only goat for

a time and occasionally neither.

The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a lot of

them

are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

Carol F.

February 28, 2006

Yes. Although, most of the ASD kids that I know that have been tested showed

no true allergy but, just a sensitivity. That is why some of the ASD kids of

the SCD do well with the goat yogurt and not cow's milk yogurt. I know this

is true for a fact for my daughter as I saw the actual testing results in

black/white for her. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

Yes. Although, most of the ASD kids that I know that have been tested showed

no true allergy but, just a sensitivity. That is why some of the ASD kids of

the SCD do well with the goat yogurt and not cow's milk yogurt. I know this

is true for a fact for my daughter as I saw the actual testing results in

black/white for her. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

Yes. Although, most of the ASD kids that I know that have been tested showed

no true allergy but, just a sensitivity. That is why some of the ASD kids of

the SCD do well with the goat yogurt and not cow's milk yogurt. I know this

is true for a fact for my daughter as I saw the actual testing results in

black/white for her. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

> It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> milk allergy.

>

> Unfortunate, but true.

> Suzanne

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

Thanks Carol. I didn't get to read your post on this until I already sent

mine. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

>

> >

> > It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> > almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> > CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> > that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> > milk allergy.

> >

> > Unfortunate, but true.

> > Suzanne

> >

> I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction

to cow and

> goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at

times, then only goat for

> a time and occasionally neither.

>

> The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a

lot of them

> are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

>

> We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

>

> Carol F.

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

Thanks Carol. I didn't get to read your post on this until I already sent

mine. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

>

> >

> > It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> > almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> > CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> > that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> > milk allergy.

> >

> > Unfortunate, but true.

> > Suzanne

> >

> I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction

to cow and

> goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at

times, then only goat for

> a time and occasionally neither.

>

> The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a

lot of them

> are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

>

> We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

>

> Carol F.

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

Thanks Carol. I didn't get to read your post on this until I already sent

mine. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Re: Fw: [thoughtfulhousecenterforchildren] Cow Casein

vs Goat Casein

>

> >

> > It's worth noting that individuals with a true casein allergy will

> > almost always be allergic to both cow and goat milk. Only about 4-6% of

> > CMA (cow milk allergy) individuals can tolerate goat milk. This means

> > that goat milk is usually an unsuitable substitute in cases of true

> > milk allergy.

> >

> > Unfortunate, but true.

> > Suzanne

> >

> I wonder how many on Pecanbread have a " true " casein allergy. My reaction

to cow and

> goat yogurt seems to vacillate. I tolerate one, the other or both at

times, then only goat for

> a time and occasionally neither.

>

> The GFCF people have really " spooked " many who transitioned to SCD and a

lot of them

> are finding they can use yogurt and that it helps.

>

> We have always said to totally avoid any food that reflects a TRUE

allergy..period!

>

> Carol F.

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

February 28, 2006

I thought it was worth mentioning because the incidence of both IgE

(classic " allergies " ) and IgG ( " sensitivities " ) are higher in the ASD

population. Both can wax and wane over the course of a lifetime, and

in typical kids, IgE reactions are usually outgrown by age 21 or 3 as

the gut matures. This doesn't usually happen with our kids' guts,

though. True allergies only have a chance to abate or be outgrown

when a person practices total and complete avoidance for a long

period of tim (many months, typically years, often never). So, if a

person avoids them for awhile and the reactions are milder, but re-

introduces them before the allergy is completely outgrown, then

reactions will re-surface or become stronger after a period of

exposure. I don't know as much about IgG sensitivities, but the

symptoms of both can be similar, and the usual treatment is total

avoidance to allow the body to heal and outgrow the learned reaction.

Of course, testing is available to determine whether a person is IgE

or IgG reactive to a particular food. Skin testing has been

particularly accurate for us, though under age 5, both blood and skin

tests have high rates of false negatives, and elimination dieting is

the most accurate method of diagnosis at any age.

Suzanne

February 28, 2006