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Hi a,

I would try ProCyte's Ti-Silc Sheer SPF 45. It is a very light tint... but

I've been very happy with it. I had the same problems with Zinco... my skin

couldn't take it. You can buy Ti-Silc at Drugstore.com for $19.95 a bottle.

In my experience, a bottle goes A LONG WAY.

Good luck!

~Janece

Need tinted sunblock

Does anyone have a suggestion for a tinted sunblock which gives relatively

natural

looking coverage? I have been using Fallene's Total Block (spf 60) which

provides

excellent sunscreen coverage but goes on very heavily. I tried Zinco in the

past

but it disagreed with my skin. Any other suggestions for tinted sunblocks

with

coverage of at least 30?

Thanks,

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> I would try ProCyte's Ti-Silc Sheer SPF 45...

Janece, the active ingredients on Drugstore.com list both Titanium

Dioxide (Micronized) and Ethylhedxyl p-Methoxycinnamate, which is an

organic sunscreen. And unfortunately for me, the narrative on the

site described it containing Vit E among other antioxidants :(

To the original poster, Clinique has a Super City Block that is spf

25, and tinted similar to the original city block. I don't know the

exact ingredients, but I'll find out tomorrow and post them.

Marjorie

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Vitamin E problematic? I've never had problems with vit E. Is it common

for rosaceans to have problems? In fact I've had some good success with

occassional usage (I don't use it all the time, but once/twice a week) of

Tocophero E Cream by DHC Skincare.

Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a god-send of

a product for me...

Cheers,

~Janece

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Re: Need tinted sunblock

> I would try ProCyte's Ti-Silc Sheer SPF 45...

Janece, the active ingredients on Drugstore.com list both Titanium

Dioxide (Micronized) and Ethylhedxyl p-Methoxycinnamate, which is an

organic sunscreen. And unfortunately for me, the narrative on the

site described it containing Vit E among other antioxidants :(

To the original poster, Clinique has a Super City Block that is spf

25, and tinted similar to the original city block. I don't know the

exact ingredients, but I'll find out tomorrow and post them.

Marjorie

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> Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> god-send of a product for me...

Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for me.

The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most people

react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

it's not a seemingly random event.

The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with a

large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

products.

It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products that

MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for any

one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate well.

After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients I

react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

with greater ease.

Marjorie

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> Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> god-send of a product for me...

Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for me.

The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most people

react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

it's not a seemingly random event.

The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with a

large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

products.

It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products that

MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for any

one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate well.

After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients I

react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

with greater ease.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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> Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> god-send of a product for me...

Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for me.

The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most people

react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

it's not a seemingly random event.

The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with a

large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

products.

It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products that

MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for any

one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate well.

After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients I

react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

with greater ease.

Marjorie

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I had the same problem before I joined the group. I think what helped

my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial oil, and

sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my skin became very

calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing regime.

If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it. I don't

know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

that because so many on the list have that problem.

My dad has rhinophyma and had the same trouble as me finding a

cleanser that didn't make his skin burn and red. (He finally settled

on Oil of Olay Sensitive Skin Cleanser.) He also can't use

aftershave or cologne without his facial skin peeling. I'm sure many

guys on the list can relate.

I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

Lucky me!

Take care,

Matija

>

> > Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> > god-send of a product for me...

>

> Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

> finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for

me.

>

> The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

> people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

>

> That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most

people

> react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

> the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

> effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

> pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

> it's not a seemingly random event.

>

> The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with

a

> large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

> products.

>

> It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products

that

> MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for

any

> one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate

well.

>

> After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

> moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

> not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients

I

> react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

> with greater ease.

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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I had the same problem before I joined the group. I think what helped

my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial oil, and

sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my skin became very

calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing regime.

If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it. I don't

know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

that because so many on the list have that problem.

My dad has rhinophyma and had the same trouble as me finding a

cleanser that didn't make his skin burn and red. (He finally settled

on Oil of Olay Sensitive Skin Cleanser.) He also can't use

aftershave or cologne without his facial skin peeling. I'm sure many

guys on the list can relate.

I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

Lucky me!

Take care,

Matija

>

> > Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> > god-send of a product for me...

>

> Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

> finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for

me.

>

> The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

> people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

>

> That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most

people

> react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

> the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

> effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

> pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

> it's not a seemingly random event.

>

> The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with

a

> large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

> products.

>

> It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products

that

> MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for

any

> one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate

well.

>

> After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

> moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

> not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients

I

> react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

> with greater ease.

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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I had the same problem before I joined the group. I think what helped

my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial oil, and

sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my skin became very

calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing regime.

If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it. I don't

know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

that because so many on the list have that problem.

My dad has rhinophyma and had the same trouble as me finding a

cleanser that didn't make his skin burn and red. (He finally settled

on Oil of Olay Sensitive Skin Cleanser.) He also can't use

aftershave or cologne without his facial skin peeling. I'm sure many

guys on the list can relate.

I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

Lucky me!

Take care,

Matija

>

> > Good luck.... sorry my suggestion won't work out -- it's been a

> > god-send of a product for me...

>

> Thanks for letting us know, Janece. I enjoy hearing when someone

> finds a product that works for them, even if it doesn't work for

me.

>

> The more I think about it, the more mysterious it is that different

> people react totally differently to the same skin care product.

>

> That's not the case in other therapeutics -- for example, most

people

> react similiarly to medications (it may not cure the condition, but

> the reaction is pretty stereotypical, within a spectrum of side

> effects and allergic reactions). You can perform an operation, and

> pretty much anticipate the result -- again, within a spectrum, but

> it's not a seemingly random event.

>

> The type of therapeutics that typically vary widely are those with

a

> large psychic component, but that doesn't apply to skin care

> products.

>

> It shouldn't be THIS difficult to identify a handful of products

that

> MOST sensitive skins tolerate. It shouldn't be this difficult for

any

> one person to identify a handful of products that they tolerate

well.

>

> After months of looking, I still don't have a really good cleanser,

> moisturizer, or sunblock. And from all the posts here, I'm clearly

> not the only one. I can't even say with confidence what ingredients

I

> react to. Geez, I can solve the Sunday NYTimes puzzle -- in pen --

> with greater ease.

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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> If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

> dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for rosacean

skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

> I don't

> know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

> that because so many on the list have that problem.

I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly correct

in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see if

there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

better.

> I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

> Lucky me!

BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno lotion.

It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

Marjorie

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> If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

> dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for rosacean

skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

> I don't

> know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

> that because so many on the list have that problem.

I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly correct

in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see if

there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

better.

> I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

> Lucky me!

BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno lotion.

It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

Marjorie

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> If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of a

> dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for rosacean

skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

> I don't

> know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder about

> that because so many on the list have that problem.

I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly correct

in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see if

there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

better.

> I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from him.

> Lucky me!

BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno lotion.

It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

Marjorie

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So what is her anti-flushing regime?

Lynn

ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote:

I think what helped

my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial oil, and

sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my skin became very

calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing regime.

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Matija,

What are you using as cleanser, facial oli and

sunblock? I have a lot of trouble finding something

real good for my skin, thanks for any advice,L

--- Lynn S hlstucker@...> escribió: >

> So what is her anti-flushing regime?

> Lynn

> ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote:

> I think what helped

> my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial

> oil, and

> sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my

> skin became very

> calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing

> regime.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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Matija,

What are you using as cleanser, facial oli and

sunblock? I have a lot of trouble finding something

real good for my skin, thanks for any advice,L

--- Lynn S hlstucker@...> escribió: >

> So what is her anti-flushing regime?

> Lynn

> ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote:

> I think what helped

> my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial

> oil, and

> sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my

> skin became very

> calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing

> regime.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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Matija,

What are you using as cleanser, facial oli and

sunblock? I have a lot of trouble finding something

real good for my skin, thanks for any advice,L

--- Lynn S hlstucker@...> escribió: >

> So what is her anti-flushing regime?

> Lynn

> ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote:

> I think what helped

> my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial

> oil, and

> sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my

> skin became very

> calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing

> regime.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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I wanted to respond that the idea of irritating one's face with

cleansers and other normal skincare products that prevent

topicals/antibiotics to work well for rosacea is nothing new. It's

been discussed a lot in the 3.5 years during the life of this list.

I think this is an issue which Drs. Sy and Nase have brought up very

many times in their postings to the group. I wish that other med

professionals besides the aforementioned doctors and Marjorie knew

about. Washing with Cetaphil or another mild cleanser doesn't

decrease rosacea redness for some of us.

The 25% was a misinterpretation on my part of a study on the efficacy

of the Metros/oral antibiotics. I think I got the percentage of whom

this combo work for wrong.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> > moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> > treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of

a

> > dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

>

> Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

> and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for

rosacean

> skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

> none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

>

> > I don't

> > know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> > respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder

about

> > that because so many on the list have that problem.

>

> I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly

correct

> in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

> either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

> back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see

if

> there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

> saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

> care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

> topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

> better.

>

> > I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from

him.

> > Lucky me!

>

> BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno

lotion.

> It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff,, MD

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I wanted to respond that the idea of irritating one's face with

cleansers and other normal skincare products that prevent

topicals/antibiotics to work well for rosacea is nothing new. It's

been discussed a lot in the 3.5 years during the life of this list.

I think this is an issue which Drs. Sy and Nase have brought up very

many times in their postings to the group. I wish that other med

professionals besides the aforementioned doctors and Marjorie knew

about. Washing with Cetaphil or another mild cleanser doesn't

decrease rosacea redness for some of us.

The 25% was a misinterpretation on my part of a study on the efficacy

of the Metros/oral antibiotics. I think I got the percentage of whom

this combo work for wrong.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> > moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> > treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of

a

> > dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

>

> Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

> and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for

rosacean

> skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

> none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

>

> > I don't

> > know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> > respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder

about

> > that because so many on the list have that problem.

>

> I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly

correct

> in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

> either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

> back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see

if

> there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

> saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

> care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

> topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

> better.

>

> > I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from

him.

> > Lucky me!

>

> BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno

lotion.

> It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff,, MD

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I wanted to respond that the idea of irritating one's face with

cleansers and other normal skincare products that prevent

topicals/antibiotics to work well for rosacea is nothing new. It's

been discussed a lot in the 3.5 years during the life of this list.

I think this is an issue which Drs. Sy and Nase have brought up very

many times in their postings to the group. I wish that other med

professionals besides the aforementioned doctors and Marjorie knew

about. Washing with Cetaphil or another mild cleanser doesn't

decrease rosacea redness for some of us.

The 25% was a misinterpretation on my part of a study on the efficacy

of the Metros/oral antibiotics. I think I got the percentage of whom

this combo work for wrong.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > If I may say so, I think using so-called gentle cleansers and

> > moisturizers irritated my skin so much that traditional medical

> > treatments like topicals and oral antibiotics didn't make much of

a

> > dent if I kept re-irritating my skin every time I washed it.

>

> Exactly -- it's easy to get caught up in what the various companies

> and Web sites call " gentle " or " for sensitive skin " or " for

rosacean

> skin " -- what's gentle is a limited number of simple ingredients,

> none of which cause the person irritation or reaction.

>

> > I don't

> > know if this was the case with the 25% percent of us who don't

> > respond to traditional medical treatments. I sometimes wonder

about

> > that because so many on the list have that problem.

>

> I don't know about the percentage, but I think you're exactly

correct

> in what you're saying. I know that I didn't respond to antibiotics

> either -- I would have thought they " stopped working " except I went

> back to the beginning and looked in basic medical textbooks to see

if

> there was something I was missing or doing wrong. And that's when I

> saw it: the first line of treatment, the importance of minimal skin

> care -- and when I started using Aquinal alone -- the oral and

> topical antibiotics started working and my skin got much, much

> better.

>

> > I guess I inherited that inability to tolerate cleansers from

him.

> > Lucky me!

>

> BTW, earlier today I asked my pharmacist to order the Aveeno

lotion.

> It should come in by the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff,, MD

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Hi ,

For cleanser, I've been using Dr. Sy's test cleanser for seb derm.

It's not on the market yet. I'm not sure when it will be. If I wasn't

using this, I'd be using Aveeno Creamy Baby Cleanser since it takes

off all makeup, grime, etc., without irritating the skin. For oil, I

use either vita-oil or extra virgin olive oil. For sunblock, I use

Dr. Sy's ZincO Cream topped off with Jane Iredale's mineral powder.

Hope that helps!

Matija

> > I think what helped

> > my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial

> > oil, and

> > sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my

> > skin became very

> > calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing

> > regime.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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Hi ,

For cleanser, I've been using Dr. Sy's test cleanser for seb derm.

It's not on the market yet. I'm not sure when it will be. If I wasn't

using this, I'd be using Aveeno Creamy Baby Cleanser since it takes

off all makeup, grime, etc., without irritating the skin. For oil, I

use either vita-oil or extra virgin olive oil. For sunblock, I use

Dr. Sy's ZincO Cream topped off with Jane Iredale's mineral powder.

Hope that helps!

Matija

> > I think what helped

> > my skin the most was finding a good cleanser, facial

> > oil, and

> > sunblock. When I had all three working for me, my

> > skin became very

> > calm, in conjunction with Dr. Sy's anti-flushing

> > regime.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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