cea at early age Re: Derm visit.....

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> > >

> > > , acne rosacea in a 20 year old is possible but very rare -

-

> > > far, far more common is acne vulgaris. Also far more common is

> > > chronic flushing/blushing that doesn't have a disorder

associated

> > > with it, is just a characteristic of the person, perhaps an

> > inherited

> > > tendency or trait.

> > >

> > > Both acne and easy blushing/flushing occur so commonly in the

> young

> > > that there's no compelling reason to link them together. Having

> all

> > > the symptoms of a condition doesn't mean you have that

condition,

> > not

> > > by a long shot.

> > >

> > > Plus, if there's any question on a diagnosis, the better

medical

> > > management would favor the conditon that is more amenable to

> > > treatment (in your case, acne vulgaris), then to jump

immediately

> > to

> > > the condition that has no great treatment -- especially when

the

> > > first is so common in the patient population, and the second is

> so

> > > rare. Does that logic make sense to you?

> > >

> > > Clindagel is a topical antibiotic, like Metrogel commonly

> > prescribed

> > > for rosacea, just a different antibiotic (clindamycin rather

than

> > > metronidazole). Why are you sure it will irritate you -- have

you

> > had

> > > bad experiences with topical clindamycin in the past? Topical

> > > antibiotics are anti-inflammatory, but only clindamycin will

kill

> > off

> > > the bacteria that commonly causes acne vulgaris. (cea isn't

> > > thought to be caused by bacteria).

> > >

> > > I know nothing about photoderm treatments. Why is he

recommending

> > > them for you?

> > >

> > > Marjorie

> > >

> > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello y'all:

> > > >

> > > > I just went to the top rated dermatologist in

Nashville and

> > > he

> > > > said that at my age(20) rosacea is almost impossible to have

> and

> > > that

> > > > what I have is some acne and a flushing/blushing

predisposition

> > > that

> > > > can be helped by Zyrtec. He prescribed me the Zyrtec and

> > Clindagel

> > > for

> > > > the acne. I'm worried. So many people say that people my age

> can

> > > get

> > > > it, and I do have all the characteristic symptoms of

> > rosacea....is

> > > this

> > > > another clueless derm? He also advised getting photoderm at

his

> > > clinic,

> > > > likely at a 550 wavelength. I'm sure the clindagel will

> irritate

> > > > me...I'm confused. Any advice would be appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > -

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From that site recommended by Matija:

> " A predisposition to rosacea or " prerosacea " may be identified in the

teens and twenties. . First, I don't know what kind of " treatment " they

recommend in the final sentence for pre- rosacea, other than to avoid

irritating products as part of common sense and good skin care. "

I would like to comment on the treatment whcih was recommended to me.

About 10 years ago ( 2 years after my initial diagnosis of rosacea, not

prerosacea but rosacea, that's what the derm said ) but I was on vacation

and made an appointment to see another derm in another much larger city.

He was an older man. Very kind and gentle. took a history. And looked very

closely at my face with a magnifying lighted glass. His conclusion was that

I was pre-rosacea. His advise; Wear a sunscreen everyday, He gave me a

sample of something, can't remember now. Use a very gentll cleanser. gave me

a sample of Aquanil. I really can't remember what he rec. for a moisturizer.

At the time I was wearing a large brimmed hat which he told me to contine

wearing. Avoid going from a very cold to hot environment ( and vice versa )

without giving my face a chance to acclimatize. He said that he could inject

the broken capillaries that I had ( yep I had them then, even in

pre-rosacea ) but he would not do it until later that fall when the weather

was much cooler. And he gave me a Rx for a topical which had to be

compounded. I still have a photocopy of it somewhere. I know that it was in

a Glaxal base and had Vitamin A and Vitamin E and .05% hydrocortisone. I

don't remmeber if there were repeats or anything. I had my family rewrite

the Rx and had it filled in my own hometown. I put it on one night and it

burned like crazy. needless to say I did not use it again. I called his

office and he insisted that it should not have burned but it did. Now, I

might have used an irritating cleanser before since it had been a few weeks

from the time I saw the derm while on holiday until the time I got home.

I give up trying to figure this out. Several years before I was diagnosed

with rosacea, and pre-rosacea, I had the broekn capillaries and I thought

that they came fater repeated blushing/flushing episodes which damaged the

blood vessels. I thought that the broken capillaries came with the pimples.

Oh well, we live, We learn. Wish I did not have to learn to live with this.

Plus I have the sebderm to rattle my nerves.

take care

[Guest guest]

From that site recommended by Matija:

> " A predisposition to rosacea or " prerosacea " may be identified in the

teens and twenties. . First, I don't know what kind of " treatment " they

recommend in the final sentence for pre- rosacea, other than to avoid

irritating products as part of common sense and good skin care. "

I would like to comment on the treatment whcih was recommended to me.

About 10 years ago ( 2 years after my initial diagnosis of rosacea, not

prerosacea but rosacea, that's what the derm said ) but I was on vacation

and made an appointment to see another derm in another much larger city.

He was an older man. Very kind and gentle. took a history. And looked very

closely at my face with a magnifying lighted glass. His conclusion was that

I was pre-rosacea. His advise; Wear a sunscreen everyday, He gave me a

sample of something, can't remember now. Use a very gentll cleanser. gave me

a sample of Aquanil. I really can't remember what he rec. for a moisturizer.

At the time I was wearing a large brimmed hat which he told me to contine

wearing. Avoid going from a very cold to hot environment ( and vice versa )

without giving my face a chance to acclimatize. He said that he could inject

the broken capillaries that I had ( yep I had them then, even in

pre-rosacea ) but he would not do it until later that fall when the weather

was much cooler. And he gave me a Rx for a topical which had to be

compounded. I still have a photocopy of it somewhere. I know that it was in

a Glaxal base and had Vitamin A and Vitamin E and .05% hydrocortisone. I

don't remmeber if there were repeats or anything. I had my family rewrite

the Rx and had it filled in my own hometown. I put it on one night and it

burned like crazy. needless to say I did not use it again. I called his

office and he insisted that it should not have burned but it did. Now, I

might have used an irritating cleanser before since it had been a few weeks

from the time I saw the derm while on holiday until the time I got home.

I give up trying to figure this out. Several years before I was diagnosed

with rosacea, and pre-rosacea, I had the broekn capillaries and I thought

that they came fater repeated blushing/flushing episodes which damaged the

blood vessels. I thought that the broken capillaries came with the pimples.

Oh well, we live, We learn. Wish I did not have to learn to live with this.

Plus I have the sebderm to rattle my nerves.

take care

[Guest guest]

From that site recommended by Matija:

> " A predisposition to rosacea or " prerosacea " may be identified in the

teens and twenties. . First, I don't know what kind of " treatment " they

recommend in the final sentence for pre- rosacea, other than to avoid

irritating products as part of common sense and good skin care. "

I would like to comment on the treatment whcih was recommended to me.

About 10 years ago ( 2 years after my initial diagnosis of rosacea, not

prerosacea but rosacea, that's what the derm said ) but I was on vacation

and made an appointment to see another derm in another much larger city.

He was an older man. Very kind and gentle. took a history. And looked very

closely at my face with a magnifying lighted glass. His conclusion was that

I was pre-rosacea. His advise; Wear a sunscreen everyday, He gave me a

sample of something, can't remember now. Use a very gentll cleanser. gave me

a sample of Aquanil. I really can't remember what he rec. for a moisturizer.

At the time I was wearing a large brimmed hat which he told me to contine

wearing. Avoid going from a very cold to hot environment ( and vice versa )

without giving my face a chance to acclimatize. He said that he could inject

the broken capillaries that I had ( yep I had them then, even in

pre-rosacea ) but he would not do it until later that fall when the weather

was much cooler. And he gave me a Rx for a topical which had to be

compounded. I still have a photocopy of it somewhere. I know that it was in

a Glaxal base and had Vitamin A and Vitamin E and .05% hydrocortisone. I

don't remmeber if there were repeats or anything. I had my family rewrite

the Rx and had it filled in my own hometown. I put it on one night and it

burned like crazy. needless to say I did not use it again. I called his

office and he insisted that it should not have burned but it did. Now, I

might have used an irritating cleanser before since it had been a few weeks

from the time I saw the derm while on holiday until the time I got home.

I give up trying to figure this out. Several years before I was diagnosed

with rosacea, and pre-rosacea, I had the broekn capillaries and I thought

that they came fater repeated blushing/flushing episodes which damaged the

blood vessels. I thought that the broken capillaries came with the pimples.

Oh well, we live, We learn. Wish I did not have to learn to live with this.

Plus I have the sebderm to rattle my nerves.

take care