Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

April 26, 2002

> petrolatum is the

> archetypical moisturizer that is non comedogenic, if used

for short

> periods...

Do you mean like Vaseline? Before I ever heard of cea I

used to use Vaseline with vitamin E or even the baby Vaseline

cream or whatever it is and I really liked It But the other

day I tried the Vaseline with E and I was shocked at the

flaking I got. I couldn't tell if it was a reaction or if the

Vaseline had just removed dead skin.

April 26, 2002

ok, well since you've been using gold bond can you tell me if you

have more or less comedones since you started using it?

> >> >

> >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the different

> >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is potentially

> >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

sensitive

> >> > formulation.

> >> >

> >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

formulation --

> >>

> >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but also the

> >> > addition of others:

> >> >

> >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based lotion.

It

> >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red cap) by a

lower

> >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the sensitive

fomulation

> >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

fragrance, and

> >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

propylene

> >> > glycol. "

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have assumed that

> >> > menthol might

> >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be completely

off

> >> > here. All my

> >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my lips are

> >>really

> >> > chapped

> >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I have never

seen

> >> > Gold Bond

> >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of the green

> >>bottle

> >> > just

> >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I would

assume

> >> > that the

> >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance, parabens and

> >> > propylene

> >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and menthol could

> >>easily

> >> > be added

> >> > > if desired.

> >> > >

> >> > > Alena

> >>

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April 26, 2002

ok, well since you've been using gold bond can you tell me if you

have more or less comedones since you started using it?

> >> >

> >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the different

> >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is potentially

> >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

sensitive

> >> > formulation.

> >> >

> >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

formulation --

> >>

> >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but also the

> >> > addition of others:

> >> >

> >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based lotion.

It

> >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red cap) by a

lower

> >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the sensitive

fomulation

> >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

fragrance, and

> >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

propylene

> >> > glycol. "

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have assumed that

> >> > menthol might

> >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be completely

off

> >> > here. All my

> >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my lips are

> >>really

> >> > chapped

> >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I have never

seen

> >> > Gold Bond

> >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of the green

> >>bottle

> >> > just

> >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I would

assume

> >> > that the

> >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance, parabens and

> >> > propylene

> >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and menthol could

> >>easily

> >> > be added

> >> > > if desired.

> >> > >

> >> > > Alena

> >>

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you don't

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> >>

> >>See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >>

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April 26, 2002

ok, well since you've been using gold bond can you tell me if you

have more or less comedones since you started using it?

> >> >

> >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the different

> >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is potentially

> >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

sensitive

> >> > formulation.

> >> >

> >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

formulation --

> >>

> >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but also the

> >> > addition of others:

> >> >

> >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based lotion.

It

> >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red cap) by a

lower

> >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the sensitive

fomulation

> >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

fragrance, and

> >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

propylene

> >> > glycol. "

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie

> >> >

> >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have assumed that

> >> > menthol might

> >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be completely

off

> >> > here. All my

> >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my lips are

> >>really

> >> > chapped

> >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I have never

seen

> >> > Gold Bond

> >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of the green

> >>bottle

> >> > just

> >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I would

assume

> >> > that the

> >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance, parabens and

> >> > propylene

> >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and menthol could

> >>easily

> >> > be added

> >> > > if desired.

> >> > >

> >> > > Alena

> >>

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> >>

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> >>

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April 27, 2002

I have the usual ocassional pimple, nothing different than before I started

using Gold Bond.

>

>To: rosacea-support

>Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

>Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 04:49:01 -0000

>

>ok, well since you've been using gold bond can you tell me if you

>have more or less comedones since you started using it?

>

> > >> >

> > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the different

> > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is potentially

> > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

>sensitive

> > >> > formulation.

> > >> >

> > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

>formulation --

> > >>

> > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but also the

> > >> > addition of others:

> > >> >

> > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based lotion.

>It

> > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red cap) by a

>lower

> > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the sensitive

>fomulation

> > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

>fragrance, and

> > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

>propylene

> > >> > glycol. "

> > >> >

> > >> > Marjorie

> > >> >

> > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >> >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have assumed that

> > >> > menthol might

> > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be completely

>off

> > >> > here. All my

> > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my lips are

> > >>really

> > >> > chapped

> > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I have never

>seen

> > >> > Gold Bond

> > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of the green

> > >>bottle

> > >> > just

> > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I would

>assume

> > >> > that the

> > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance, parabens and

> > >> > propylene

> > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and menthol could

> > >>easily

> > >> > be added

> > >> > > if desired.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Alena

> > >>

> > >>--

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> > >>

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April 28, 2002

All I can say is read the posts of the people who have tried Gold Bond...

the positives outweigh the negatives by at least 10 to 1.

>

>To: " Mike _______ " snowskiman@...>

>Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

>Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:48:51 -0000

>

>Since you have the usual ocassional pimple, you would not be acne

>prone. Those who are acne prone, can only fear increased breakouts

>by using gold bond. the dimethicone content is 5%, and this would

>spell certain disaster beyond imagination.

>

>I postulate that you can get the same barrier protection by applying

>petrolatum >12h/d and then wash off. the benefit of the gold bond

>would be that it provides a protective barrier and in anti-

>inflammatory. And, presumably it is cosmetically elegent to put on.

>petrolatum is not, but this can be done at night or at home, and then

>washed off. at least the petrolatum will not break the acne prone

>person out days into the future.

>

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the

>different

> > > > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is

>potentially

> > > > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

> > >sensitive

> > > > >> > formulation.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

> > >formulation --

> > > > >>

> > > > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but

>also the

> > > > >> > addition of others:

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based

>lotion.

> > >It

> > > > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red cap)

>by a

> > >lower

> > > > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the sensitive

> > >fomulation

> > > > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

> > >fragrance, and

> > > > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

> > >propylene

> > > > >> > glycol. "

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Marjorie

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have assumed

>that

> > > > >> > menthol might

> > > > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be

>completely

> > >off

> > > > >> > here. All my

> > > > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my lips

>are

> > > > >>really

> > > > >> > chapped

> > > > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I have

>never

> > >seen

> > > > >> > Gold Bond

> > > > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of the

>green

> > > > >>bottle

> > > > >> > just

> > > > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I

>would

> > >assume

> > > > >> > that the

> > > > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance, parabens

>and

> > > > >> > propylene

> > > > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and menthol

>could

> > > > >>easily

> > > > >> > be added

> > > > >> > > if desired.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Alena

> > > > >>

> > > > >>--

> > > > >>Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole

>group

> > > > >>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if

> > >you don't

> > > > >>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must

> > >change the

> > > > >>subject when replying to a digest !

> > > > >>

> > > > >>See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published

>book.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>To leave the list send an email to

> > > > >>rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> > > > >>

April 28, 2002

If the positive posts outweigh eachother by a ratio of 10 to 1 then

this must be some indicia of the ratio of those with rosacea without

acne prone skin to those with rosacea complicated by acne prone skin.

Maybe Menthol or Aloe Vera in the Gold Bond is some great

indgredient. The problem is that the gold bond vehicle is junk.

That true, pure and simple. It could work on some only because they

have super skin that is comedone resistant. Now, for the body, and

not the face, applying gold bond for its indicated use re: itching

would be fine.

Whatever one does, it would be best to patch test gold bond first, to

be sure they don't break out.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the

> >different

> > > > > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is

> >potentially

> > > > > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

> > > >sensitive

> > > > > >> > formulation.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

> > > >formulation --

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but

> >also the

> > > > > >> > addition of others:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based

> >lotion.

> > > >It

> > > > > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red

cap)

> >by a

> > > >lower

> > > > > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the

sensitive

> > > >fomulation

> > > > > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

> > > >fragrance, and

> > > > > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

> > > >propylene

> > > > > >> > glycol. "

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have

assumed

> >that

> > > > > >> > menthol might

> > > > > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be

> >completely

> > > >off

> > > > > >> > here. All my

> > > > > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my

lips

> >are

> > > > > >>really

> > > > > >> > chapped

> > > > > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I

have

> >never

> > > >seen

> > > > > >> > Gold Bond

> > > > > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of

the

> >green

> > > > > >>bottle

> > > > > >> > just

> > > > > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I

> >would

> > > >assume

> > > > > >> > that the

> > > > > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance,

parabens

> >and

> > > > > >> > propylene

> > > > > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and

menthol

> >could

> > > > > >>easily

> > > > > >> > be added

> > > > > >> > > if desired.

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > Alena

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>--

> > > > > >>Please read the list highlights before posting to the

whole

> >group

> > > > > >>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be

delayed if

> > > >you don't

> > > > > >>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You

must

> > > >change the

> > > > > >>subject when replying to a digest !

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently

published

> >book.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>To leave the list send an email to

> > > > > >>rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> > > > > >>

April 29, 2002

Bear in mind that comedone testing is often carried out on the pure oily

material. The same material emulsified at just a few percent in an

oil-in-water emulsion may not produce the same result.

Menthol has different effects at different levels (on different people!). It

can cause burning sensations on some, but also acts as a counter-irritant.

I agree that patch testing first is a good idea - with virtually any new

treatment.

Barry Hunt

Fwd: Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

If the positive posts outweigh eachother by a ratio of 10 to 1 then

this must be some indicia of the ratio of those with rosacea without

acne prone skin to those with rosacea complicated by acne prone skin.

Maybe Menthol or Aloe Vera in the Gold Bond is some great

indgredient. The problem is that the gold bond vehicle is junk.

That true, pure and simple. It could work on some only because they

have super skin that is comedone resistant. Now, for the body, and

not the face, applying gold bond for its indicated use re: itching

would be fine.

Whatever one does, it would be best to patch test gold bond first, to

be sure they don't break out.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the

> >different

> > > > > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is

> >potentially

> > > > > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

> > > >sensitive

> > > > > >> > formulation.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

> > > >formulation --

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but

> >also the

> > > > > >> > addition of others:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based

> >lotion.

> > > >It

> > > > > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red

cap)

> >by a

> > > >lower

> > > > > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the

sensitive

> > > >fomulation

> > > > > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

> > > >fragrance, and

> > > > > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

> > > >propylene

> > > > > >> > glycol. "

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have

assumed

> >that

> > > > > >> > menthol might

> > > > > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be

> >completely

> > > >off

> > > > > >> > here. All my

> > > > > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my

lips

> >are

> > > > > >>really

> > > > > >> > chapped

> > > > > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I

have

> >never

> > > >seen

> > > > > >> > Gold Bond

> > > > > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of

the

> >green

> > > > > >>bottle

> > > > > >> > just

> > > > > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I

> >would

> > > >assume

> > > > > >> > that the

> > > > > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance,

parabens

> >and

> > > > > >> > propylene

> > > > > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and

menthol

> >could

> > > > > >>easily

> > > > > >> > be added

> > > > > >> > > if desired.

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > Alena

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>--

> > > > > >>Please read the list highlights before posting to the

whole

> >group

> > > > > >>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be

delayed if

> > > >you don't

> > > > > >>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You

must

> > > >change the

> > > > > >>subject when replying to a digest !

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently

published

> >book.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>To leave the list send an email to

> > > > > >>rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> > > > > >>

April 29, 2002

Bear in mind that comedone testing is often carried out on the pure oily

material. The same material emulsified at just a few percent in an

oil-in-water emulsion may not produce the same result.

Menthol has different effects at different levels (on different people!). It

can cause burning sensations on some, but also acts as a counter-irritant.

I agree that patch testing first is a good idea - with virtually any new

treatment.

Barry Hunt

Fwd: Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

If the positive posts outweigh eachother by a ratio of 10 to 1 then

this must be some indicia of the ratio of those with rosacea without

acne prone skin to those with rosacea complicated by acne prone skin.

Maybe Menthol or Aloe Vera in the Gold Bond is some great

indgredient. The problem is that the gold bond vehicle is junk.

That true, pure and simple. It could work on some only because they

have super skin that is comedone resistant. Now, for the body, and

not the face, applying gold bond for its indicated use re: itching

would be fine.

Whatever one does, it would be best to patch test gold bond first, to

be sure they don't break out.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the

> >different

> > > > > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is

> >potentially

> > > > > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

> > > >sensitive

> > > > > >> > formulation.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

> > > >formulation --

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but

> >also the

> > > > > >> > addition of others:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based

> >lotion.

> > > >It

> > > > > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red

cap)

> >by a

> > > >lower

> > > > > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the

sensitive

> > > >fomulation

> > > > > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

> > > >fragrance, and

> > > > > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

> > > >propylene

> > > > > >> > glycol. "

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have

assumed

> >that

> > > > > >> > menthol might

> > > > > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be

> >completely

> > > >off

> > > > > >> > here. All my

> > > > > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my

lips

> >are

> > > > > >>really

> > > > > >> > chapped

> > > > > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I

have

> >never

> > > >seen

> > > > > >> > Gold Bond

> > > > > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of

the

> >green

> > > > > >>bottle

> > > > > >> > just

> > > > > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I

> >would

> > > >assume

> > > > > >> > that the

> > > > > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance,

parabens

> >and

> > > > > >> > propylene

> > > > > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and

menthol

> >could

> > > > > >>easily

> > > > > >> > be added

> > > > > >> > > if desired.

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > Alena

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>--

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Bear in mind that comedone testing is often carried out on the pure oily

material. The same material emulsified at just a few percent in an

oil-in-water emulsion may not produce the same result.

Menthol has different effects at different levels (on different people!). It

can cause burning sensations on some, but also acts as a counter-irritant.

I agree that patch testing first is a good idea - with virtually any new

treatment.

Barry Hunt

Fwd: Re: Re: GOLD BOND and accutane misc.

If the positive posts outweigh eachother by a ratio of 10 to 1 then

this must be some indicia of the ratio of those with rosacea without

acne prone skin to those with rosacea complicated by acne prone skin.

Maybe Menthol or Aloe Vera in the Gold Bond is some great

indgredient. The problem is that the gold bond vehicle is junk.

That true, pure and simple. It could work on some only because they

have super skin that is comedone resistant. Now, for the body, and

not the face, applying gold bond for its indicated use re: itching

would be fine.

Whatever one does, it would be best to patch test gold bond first, to

be sure they don't break out.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Alena, it's a helpful way for me to think about the

> >different

> > > > > >> > formulations as well. I have heard that menthol is

> >potentially

> > > > > >> > irritating, which is probably why it's not part of the

> > > >sensitive

> > > > > >> > formulation.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I think you misread the comparison with the sensitive

> > > >formulation --

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > note it's not just the absense of some ingredients but

> >also the

> > > > > >> > addition of others:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > " It looks like a protective, moisturizing water-based

> >lotion.

> > > >It

> > > > > >> > differs from the regular strength (gold bottle, red

cap)

> >by a

> > > >lower

> > > > > >> > concentration of menthol (0.15%), and from the

sensitive

> > > >fomulation

> > > > > >> > white bottle, red cap) by the absense of menthol and

> > > >fragrance, and

> > > > > >> > addition of oatmeal, BHT and paraben preservatives, and

> > > >propylene

> > > > > >> > glycol. "

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > This is a very helpful comparison. I would have

assumed

> >that

> > > > > >> > menthol might

> > > > > >> > > be irritating to inflammed skin, but I might be

> >completely

> > > >off

> > > > > >> > here. All my

> > > > > >> > > chapsticks are mint or menthol flavour, and when my

lips

> >are

> > > > > >>really

> > > > > >> > chapped

> > > > > >> > > in witner, the menthol burns a teeny weeny bit. I

have

> >never

> > > >seen

> > > > > >> > Gold Bond

> > > > > >> > > in white bottles, I did look at the ingredients of

the

> >green

> > > > > >>bottle

> > > > > >> > just

> > > > > >> > > last week, incidentally, but did not buy it (yet). I

> >would

> > > >assume

> > > > > >> > that the

> > > > > >> > > white Gold Bond, with its absence of fragrance,

parabens

> >and

> > > > > >> > propylene

> > > > > >> > > glycol, etc. would be the safest way to go and

menthol

> >could

> > > > > >>easily

> > > > > >> > be added

> > > > > >> > > if desired.

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > Alena

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>--

> > > > > >>Please read the list highlights before posting to the

whole

> >group

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must

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> > > > > >>subject when replying to a digest !

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently

published

> >book.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>To leave the list send an email to

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> > > > > >>

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