Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 a, I certainly did when my skin was at its worst 6 months ago. During that time, I would use Clinique's Moisture Surge. It's not a moisturizer; it's used OVER a moisturizer to make it more effective, to really seal in the skin's moisture, and to allow the foundation to go on very easy. It did a good job of " plumping up " my skin for 8-12 hours, and I didn't react to it (anymore than I was reacting to everything else on my face at the time ). One drawback: I found it requires a good cleanser if it's been on less than 8-12 hours. Recently Clinique came out with a " Moisture Surge Plus, " which is suppose to be even more moisturizing. Here's the ingredients to the one I used: MOISTURE SURGE ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] butylene glycol [] methyl gluceth-20 [] dimethicone [] marine mucopolysaccharides [] glycerin [] tea-carbomer [] marine peptides [] phytomarine (algae) extract [] sodium hyaluronate [] trehalose [] hydrogenated lecithin [] tocopheryl acetate [] retinyl palmitate [] matricaria (anthemis nobilis) [] ginger (zingiber officinalis) [] lavender (lavandula angustifolia) [] hydroxypropylcellulose [] trisodium edta [] phenoxyethanol [] imidazolidinyl urea [] fd&c red no. 4 (ci 14700) [] fd&c yellow no. 5 (ci 19140) Hope that helps. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > For those support group members over 40, I am wondering if many of you experience > dry skin and substantial facial lines, more so than for most people your age. > > Since my rosacea diagnosis some three years ago, I have gone from looking quite > young for my age to having the facial lines of someone years older than I am. > Although I moisturize, my face feels and looks bone dry. Every day I experience a > tight, pulled feeling, always after I wash my face but also at other times > throughout the day. Can anyone else relate to this and if so what do you do to > alleviate the dryness and hopefully the lines? > > a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 a, What is happening with your skin is that your body is no longer producing as much estrogen as it used to. After menopause the only places in your body that produce estrogen are your adrenal glands (minimal amounts) and fatty tissues. Start noticing heavy set older women's skin and you will see what I mean - they generally have a healthy glow with fine rather than deep wrinkles. During your your peri-menopausal years your estrogen supply just tends to slow down in whatever way it happens for you (slow & gradual vs. start/stop). Other things you might notice related to the quantity and type of estrogen in your body are temperature regulation, memory, mood, attention, vitality, just to name a few. Most of my experience is anecdotal not textbook however so use it for whatever that is worth. What can help you.....sodium hyaluranate treatments/cream. What I would use on you is the Pevonia Liposomes Concentrate and the Dry Moisturizer or the Pevonia Marine Collagen Concentrate andMarine Collagen Cream Moisturizer. Whether it is collagen or liposomes or sodium hyaluronate or whatever - make sure it is a " plumping " cream. You have to make sure you are using a good toner for dry/sensitive skin. This will really really help the way your skin feels to you from the inside as well as how it looks on the outside. As far as the lines. You can think of an expression line kind of like a ditch. You can use harsh AHA's, Peels, Microdermabrasion etc. and level the sides of the ditch so that all the sides are gone and the ground is level where the bottom of the ditch used to be. The other way to " fix " a ditch is to fill it with something so that it is level where the top of the ditch used to be. My opinion is that you should exfoliate very gently your whole body just not to excess with harsh products. It is much better for your body to focus on supplementing it's needs vs. subjecting your skin/body to something so potentially destructive. Another thought about lines for you to consider. Your skin intrinsically ages and your body starts to dry out as you age. So no matter what you do you are going to have lines. You can change what they look like by the expressions you make and where you carry your stress in your face, head, neck and shoulders. Basically you can affect these by the experiences you have and they way that you spend your time and how that makes you feel. It is always good to evaluate if you are comfortable in your skin - inside and out. I hope this makes sense to you that all of these things are interrelated. The good news is you can buy products that will simultaneously plump up the lines and moisturize your face that are not irritating (necessarily) to rosacea so you will be able to manage the process. Let me know if you have any questions. Jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 a, What is happening with your skin is that your body is no longer producing as much estrogen as it used to. After menopause the only places in your body that produce estrogen are your adrenal glands (minimal amounts) and fatty tissues. Start noticing heavy set older women's skin and you will see what I mean - they generally have a healthy glow with fine rather than deep wrinkles. During your your peri-menopausal years your estrogen supply just tends to slow down in whatever way it happens for you (slow & gradual vs. start/stop). Other things you might notice related to the quantity and type of estrogen in your body are temperature regulation, memory, mood, attention, vitality, just to name a few. Most of my experience is anecdotal not textbook however so use it for whatever that is worth. What can help you.....sodium hyaluranate treatments/cream. What I would use on you is the Pevonia Liposomes Concentrate and the Dry Moisturizer or the Pevonia Marine Collagen Concentrate andMarine Collagen Cream Moisturizer. Whether it is collagen or liposomes or sodium hyaluronate or whatever - make sure it is a " plumping " cream. You have to make sure you are using a good toner for dry/sensitive skin. This will really really help the way your skin feels to you from the inside as well as how it looks on the outside. As far as the lines. You can think of an expression line kind of like a ditch. You can use harsh AHA's, Peels, Microdermabrasion etc. and level the sides of the ditch so that all the sides are gone and the ground is level where the bottom of the ditch used to be. The other way to " fix " a ditch is to fill it with something so that it is level where the top of the ditch used to be. My opinion is that you should exfoliate very gently your whole body just not to excess with harsh products. It is much better for your body to focus on supplementing it's needs vs. subjecting your skin/body to something so potentially destructive. Another thought about lines for you to consider. Your skin intrinsically ages and your body starts to dry out as you age. So no matter what you do you are going to have lines. You can change what they look like by the expressions you make and where you carry your stress in your face, head, neck and shoulders. Basically you can affect these by the experiences you have and they way that you spend your time and how that makes you feel. It is always good to evaluate if you are comfortable in your skin - inside and out. I hope this makes sense to you that all of these things are interrelated. The good news is you can buy products that will simultaneously plump up the lines and moisturize your face that are not irritating (necessarily) to rosacea so you will be able to manage the process. Let me know if you have any questions. Jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 a, What is happening with your skin is that your body is no longer producing as much estrogen as it used to. After menopause the only places in your body that produce estrogen are your adrenal glands (minimal amounts) and fatty tissues. Start noticing heavy set older women's skin and you will see what I mean - they generally have a healthy glow with fine rather than deep wrinkles. During your your peri-menopausal years your estrogen supply just tends to slow down in whatever way it happens for you (slow & gradual vs. start/stop). Other things you might notice related to the quantity and type of estrogen in your body are temperature regulation, memory, mood, attention, vitality, just to name a few. Most of my experience is anecdotal not textbook however so use it for whatever that is worth. What can help you.....sodium hyaluranate treatments/cream. What I would use on you is the Pevonia Liposomes Concentrate and the Dry Moisturizer or the Pevonia Marine Collagen Concentrate andMarine Collagen Cream Moisturizer. Whether it is collagen or liposomes or sodium hyaluronate or whatever - make sure it is a " plumping " cream. You have to make sure you are using a good toner for dry/sensitive skin. This will really really help the way your skin feels to you from the inside as well as how it looks on the outside. As far as the lines. You can think of an expression line kind of like a ditch. You can use harsh AHA's, Peels, Microdermabrasion etc. and level the sides of the ditch so that all the sides are gone and the ground is level where the bottom of the ditch used to be. The other way to " fix " a ditch is to fill it with something so that it is level where the top of the ditch used to be. My opinion is that you should exfoliate very gently your whole body just not to excess with harsh products. It is much better for your body to focus on supplementing it's needs vs. subjecting your skin/body to something so potentially destructive. Another thought about lines for you to consider. Your skin intrinsically ages and your body starts to dry out as you age. So no matter what you do you are going to have lines. You can change what they look like by the expressions you make and where you carry your stress in your face, head, neck and shoulders. Basically you can affect these by the experiences you have and they way that you spend your time and how that makes you feel. It is always good to evaluate if you are comfortable in your skin - inside and out. I hope this makes sense to you that all of these things are interrelated. The good news is you can buy products that will simultaneously plump up the lines and moisturize your face that are not irritating (necessarily) to rosacea so you will be able to manage the process. Let me know if you have any questions. Jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Alena-- Oh my gosh, you just described me and MY parents! II'll be 42 in August. I look like my dad and have inherited those same exact vertical lines (between my brows) and his rosacea. (Oh, and did I mention the deep furrows on my forehead?!). My mom, on the other hand, who is turning 75 this year, looks 65. I also wish I had had more of her personality characteristics!! cathy > Unfortunately, I have to raise my hand to be included in the final count. > Though my skin is not that dry overall (I am typical combo - oily T-zone and > normal to dry rest of the face), I do have premature lines. I also have to > say that I see a very strong resemblence to my father and some of my lines > are a true copy of his, so I am not quite sure if rosacea alone is the > suspect. I think genetics is a major factor in my case. At the age of 42, my > worst lines are two vertical ones just above my nose, between the eyebrows. > I have had these for quite a few years and they were also very prominent in > my father's face. > Why does one always inherit the bad features? I wish I took more after > my mom (not only appearance wise, but also character wise). At the advanced > age of 76, she has very few wrinkles and people generally think she is 15 > years younger. > > Alena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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