Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 It's the alfalfa fed (and they sometimes call this " grass fed " .... so beware) that makes it taste bad/like rabbit or something worse...thought you would want to know. True....Grass fed is usually very sweet and good tasting and since they are not fattened with corn and eat little if any alfalfa...before slaughter...and due to eating what steer where intended to eat in nature (not grain) they are in balance with the Omega 3 to Omega 6! Beware...BUT again beware....some grass fed are fattened on corn before slaughter........and this ruins the good omega 3's when they do this! My father in law use to raise steer, this is why I know. ASK Many QUESTIONS...also some supplement with soy....YIKES! This truly screws the meat up! Antoinette (SCD diet entire family day 28) RE: Re: grass fed? I was looking into this myself. It has a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio, so is considered healthier. But I have also heard it can be very hard to get a good tasting grassfed meat. I buy a hind quarter of beef from a local farmer. I asked him about grass fed and he basically said the same thing regarding taste and texture. What he does is fully grass feeds the cattle up until the last 2 months before slaughter, that is when you want fast growth for tender meat. The grains he adds are mostly organic, but not 100%. No hormones, antiobiotics, etc. They are well cared for animals on a nice clean farm. I bought a small-med size chest freezer that will hold a hind quarter of beef plus a side or pork. I also buy a whole lamb. You can't beat the price, my beef averages $3/lb and lots of nice T-bone, porterhouse and tenderloin steaks are included in the hind quarter. If you can hunt around for a relatively local farmer that sells and raises meat this way, it is well worth it. Check out your local cooperative extension office, they may be able to point you to a farmer. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD 2 weeks For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 It's the alfalfa fed (and they sometimes call this " grass fed " .... so beware) that makes it taste bad/like rabbit or something worse...thought you would want to know. True....Grass fed is usually very sweet and good tasting and since they are not fattened with corn and eat little if any alfalfa...before slaughter...and due to eating what steer where intended to eat in nature (not grain) they are in balance with the Omega 3 to Omega 6! Beware...BUT again beware....some grass fed are fattened on corn before slaughter........and this ruins the good omega 3's when they do this! My father in law use to raise steer, this is why I know. ASK Many QUESTIONS...also some supplement with soy....YIKES! This truly screws the meat up! Antoinette (SCD diet entire family day 28) RE: Re: grass fed? I was looking into this myself. It has a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio, so is considered healthier. But I have also heard it can be very hard to get a good tasting grassfed meat. I buy a hind quarter of beef from a local farmer. I asked him about grass fed and he basically said the same thing regarding taste and texture. What he does is fully grass feeds the cattle up until the last 2 months before slaughter, that is when you want fast growth for tender meat. The grains he adds are mostly organic, but not 100%. No hormones, antiobiotics, etc. They are well cared for animals on a nice clean farm. I bought a small-med size chest freezer that will hold a hind quarter of beef plus a side or pork. I also buy a whole lamb. You can't beat the price, my beef averages $3/lb and lots of nice T-bone, porterhouse and tenderloin steaks are included in the hind quarter. If you can hunt around for a relatively local farmer that sells and raises meat this way, it is well worth it. Check out your local cooperative extension office, they may be able to point you to a farmer. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD 2 weeks For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I don't know why, but my post did not show up in email. Here goes again:) Summer I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 >>> You probably won't care then what Elaine said. That was that grass fed meat and a great concern for it was unecessary. <<< This issue, I just cannot agree, and this is why. The quality of food has taken a huge nose dive in the last 30 years, and overall, you could say the last 100 years. Our food supply, from meat to vegetables USED to contain higher omega 3 to 6 ratio. Now, omega 3 is scarce in the diet. And supplementing it has some benefits, but drawbacks as well, and shouldn't be necessary in the long run with fresh, quality food again. The thing is, especially these children of ours with developmental disabilities, we know that DHA cannot be made by the body, we know their bodies have metabolic malabsorption syndrome, and we know that DHA is required for the development of the brain, no matter what age. After I had my stroke, I was told I would never play piano again, couldn't operate my left arm or hand especially. Making the move to fresh food, and upping omega 3's in my diet has had its place in my nearly full recovery of my piano playing...my brain rewired...and I am an old fogey! This happened to me at age 26. My children are recovering from autism with SCD, and moving closer every day, and it really has been a puzzle, still is ever evolving.I really think that is a humongous credit to Elaine. Also, MCS is very real for people like us who suffer from it. Hunter is allergic to everything from MSG to annatto (which is a natural coloring) to food dyes, preservatives, so on and so on. He will be on SCD for the rest of his life, and this is just fine for us, but on all accounts, I do not think SCD would have been as successful for us if we did not switch our meat sources. It was another puzzle piece for us. In my heart, I cannot believe a cow NOT free in the pasture most of its days is not healthier then a grain fed one, since cows cannot digest grains very well. If they were healthier, they would have higher omega 3 ratio to 6...the sign of their digestion and absorption is working. It also is a point to ponder, the cow being raised for me needs less vitamin/mineral supplementation and all those extra additives. >>>However she also tended to discount my MCS and it took me several years to get her to respect my schemical ensitivities and latex allergy. She had not been at all familiar with the latex thing and the foods it cross reacts to. Somehow it never entered her studies. She accepted the research i showed her.<<< It does seem if Elaine did not contact some information, it would naturally be excluded from SCD. Yes, latex allergy is becomming more common then I think it was in the past. So many children and adults on the spectrum have very long lists of allergies and sensitivities sometimes. Summer --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 >>> You probably won't care then what Elaine said. That was that grass fed meat and a great concern for it was unecessary. <<< This issue, I just cannot agree, and this is why. The quality of food has taken a huge nose dive in the last 30 years, and overall, you could say the last 100 years. Our food supply, from meat to vegetables USED to contain higher omega 3 to 6 ratio. Now, omega 3 is scarce in the diet. And supplementing it has some benefits, but drawbacks as well, and shouldn't be necessary in the long run with fresh, quality food again. The thing is, especially these children of ours with developmental disabilities, we know that DHA cannot be made by the body, we know their bodies have metabolic malabsorption syndrome, and we know that DHA is required for the development of the brain, no matter what age. After I had my stroke, I was told I would never play piano again, couldn't operate my left arm or hand especially. Making the move to fresh food, and upping omega 3's in my diet has had its place in my nearly full recovery of my piano playing...my brain rewired...and I am an old fogey! This happened to me at age 26. My children are recovering from autism with SCD, and moving closer every day, and it really has been a puzzle, still is ever evolving.I really think that is a humongous credit to Elaine. Also, MCS is very real for people like us who suffer from it. Hunter is allergic to everything from MSG to annatto (which is a natural coloring) to food dyes, preservatives, so on and so on. He will be on SCD for the rest of his life, and this is just fine for us, but on all accounts, I do not think SCD would have been as successful for us if we did not switch our meat sources. It was another puzzle piece for us. In my heart, I cannot believe a cow NOT free in the pasture most of its days is not healthier then a grain fed one, since cows cannot digest grains very well. If they were healthier, they would have higher omega 3 ratio to 6...the sign of their digestion and absorption is working. It also is a point to ponder, the cow being raised for me needs less vitamin/mineral supplementation and all those extra additives. >>>However she also tended to discount my MCS and it took me several years to get her to respect my schemical ensitivities and latex allergy. She had not been at all familiar with the latex thing and the foods it cross reacts to. Somehow it never entered her studies. She accepted the research i showed her.<<< It does seem if Elaine did not contact some information, it would naturally be excluded from SCD. Yes, latex allergy is becomming more common then I think it was in the past. So many children and adults on the spectrum have very long lists of allergies and sensitivities sometimes. Summer --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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