Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I have ADD, but no digestive problems or immune problems (that I'm aware of). I've been on a very limited version of the SCD for a month because I'm nursing my ASD son. We're eating just meat and a few vegetables. I haven't noticed any improvement in my ADD that I can attribute to the diet; on the contrary, I am more spacy and distractable because I'm light-headed a lot without carbs. On a side note, I did try some of my son's B12 the other day and noticed a distinct improvement in my ability to focus. This is surprising, as no medications have ever helped me much with my ADD. Don't know if this will help you, but I thought I'd relate my experience. WIth ADD, as with autism, each individual is different. Suzanne Tom, 3, ASD, SCD 29 days > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I have ADD, but no digestive problems or immune problems (that I'm aware of). I've been on a very limited version of the SCD for a month because I'm nursing my ASD son. We're eating just meat and a few vegetables. I haven't noticed any improvement in my ADD that I can attribute to the diet; on the contrary, I am more spacy and distractable because I'm light-headed a lot without carbs. On a side note, I did try some of my son's B12 the other day and noticed a distinct improvement in my ability to focus. This is surprising, as no medications have ever helped me much with my ADD. Don't know if this will help you, but I thought I'd relate my experience. WIth ADD, as with autism, each individual is different. Suzanne Tom, 3, ASD, SCD 29 days > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I have ADD, but no digestive problems or immune problems (that I'm aware of). I've been on a very limited version of the SCD for a month because I'm nursing my ASD son. We're eating just meat and a few vegetables. I haven't noticed any improvement in my ADD that I can attribute to the diet; on the contrary, I am more spacy and distractable because I'm light-headed a lot without carbs. On a side note, I did try some of my son's B12 the other day and noticed a distinct improvement in my ability to focus. This is surprising, as no medications have ever helped me much with my ADD. Don't know if this will help you, but I thought I'd relate my experience. WIth ADD, as with autism, each individual is different. Suzanne Tom, 3, ASD, SCD 29 days > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Suzanne, I don't know why you are only choosing to eat meat and vegtables but specific carbohydrates are important to this diet. I can understand why you feel spacy. Laurie Re: ADD/ADHD I have ADD, but no digestive problems or immune problems (that I'm aware of). I've been on a very limited version of the SCD for a month because I'm nursing my ASD son. We're eating just meat and a few vegetables. I haven't noticed any improvement in my ADD that I can attribute to the diet; on the contrary, I am more spacy and distractable because I'm light-headed a lot without carbs. On a side note, I did try some of my son's B12 the other day and noticed a distinct improvement in my ability to focus. This is surprising, as no medications have ever helped me much with my ADD. Don't know if this will help you, but I thought I'd relate my experience. WIth ADD, as with autism, each individual is different. Suzanne Tom, 3, ASD, SCD 29 days > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Laurie, My son is allergic to all foods except a few meats and vegetables and oils. I would dearly love to eat carbohydrates, but it's not an option for us until he heals more, which I hope happens soon. It is not fun nor healthy to eat as we do. Suzanne > > Suzanne, > > I don't know why you are only choosing to eat meat and vegtables but > specific carbohydrates are important to this diet. I can understand why you > feel spacy. > > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Laurie, My son is allergic to all foods except a few meats and vegetables and oils. I would dearly love to eat carbohydrates, but it's not an option for us until he heals more, which I hope happens soon. It is not fun nor healthy to eat as we do. Suzanne > > Suzanne, > > I don't know why you are only choosing to eat meat and vegtables but > specific carbohydrates are important to this diet. I can understand why you > feel spacy. > > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Laurie, My son is allergic to all foods except a few meats and vegetables and oils. I would dearly love to eat carbohydrates, but it's not an option for us until he heals more, which I hope happens soon. It is not fun nor healthy to eat as we do. Suzanne > > Suzanne, > > I don't know why you are only choosing to eat meat and vegtables but > specific carbohydrates are important to this diet. I can understand why you > feel spacy. > > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Steve, You asked about other therapies. B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is not on the diet (should be, but isn't). TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there may be other places that sell it as well. GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is causing him to be unfocused. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Steve, You asked about other therapies. B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is not on the diet (should be, but isn't). TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there may be other places that sell it as well. GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is causing him to be unfocused. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Steve, You asked about other therapies. B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is not on the diet (should be, but isn't). TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there may be other places that sell it as well. GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is causing him to be unfocused. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is tmg > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:00:06 -0000 > >Steve, > >You asked about other therapies. > >B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is >not on the diet (should be, but isn't). > >TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. > >It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there >may be other places that sell it as well. > >GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is >causing him to be unfocused. > > >Jody >mom to -7 and -9 >SCD 1/03 > > > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is tmg > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:00:06 -0000 > >Steve, > >You asked about other therapies. > >B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is >not on the diet (should be, but isn't). > >TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. > >It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there >may be other places that sell it as well. > >GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is >causing him to be unfocused. > > >Jody >mom to -7 and -9 >SCD 1/03 > > > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is tmg > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: ADD/ADHD >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:00:06 -0000 > >Steve, > >You asked about other therapies. > >B12, TMG and B6 make a big difference for my ADHD husband, but he is >not on the diet (should be, but isn't). > >TMG makes a big, big difference my formerly ASD son's ability to focus. > >It might be worth trying. We get ours from Kirkman Labs, but there >may be other places that sell it as well. > >GABA also helps my son with focusing when it is anxiety that is >causing him to be unfocused. > > >Jody >mom to -7 and -9 >SCD 1/03 > > > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is TMG? This is from the Kirkman Labs website: Dimethylglycine (DMG) is a non-protein amino acid present in plant and animal cells. The chemical structure of DMG is actually a glycine molecule holding onto two methyl groups, so DMG is considered a " methyl donor " . Basically, Trimethylglycine (TMG) is Dimethylglycine (DMG) with one more methyl group. The chemical structure of TMG is therefore is actually a glycine molecule holding onto three methyl groups, so like DMG, TMG is considered a " methyl donor " or methyl " bank " . The additional methyl group actually makes TMG a more active methyl donor than DMG which is a benefit in some individuals. TMG can support the formation of methionine by methylating homocysteine. Some of this methionine eventually is converted into SAMe (S-adenosylmthionine), which can help maintain healthy serotonin levels in the body and support mood and well-being. As with DMG, TMG in the body, with the help of a coenzyme of riboflavin, supplies methyl groups which attach to folic acid to form methylene tetrahydrofolate, an important component of many biochemical processes in the body including cellular perception and response. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is TMG? This is from the Kirkman Labs website: Dimethylglycine (DMG) is a non-protein amino acid present in plant and animal cells. The chemical structure of DMG is actually a glycine molecule holding onto two methyl groups, so DMG is considered a " methyl donor " . Basically, Trimethylglycine (TMG) is Dimethylglycine (DMG) with one more methyl group. The chemical structure of TMG is therefore is actually a glycine molecule holding onto three methyl groups, so like DMG, TMG is considered a " methyl donor " or methyl " bank " . The additional methyl group actually makes TMG a more active methyl donor than DMG which is a benefit in some individuals. TMG can support the formation of methionine by methylating homocysteine. Some of this methionine eventually is converted into SAMe (S-adenosylmthionine), which can help maintain healthy serotonin levels in the body and support mood and well-being. As with DMG, TMG in the body, with the help of a coenzyme of riboflavin, supplies methyl groups which attach to folic acid to form methylene tetrahydrofolate, an important component of many biochemical processes in the body including cellular perception and response. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 What is TMG? This is from the Kirkman Labs website: Dimethylglycine (DMG) is a non-protein amino acid present in plant and animal cells. The chemical structure of DMG is actually a glycine molecule holding onto two methyl groups, so DMG is considered a " methyl donor " . Basically, Trimethylglycine (TMG) is Dimethylglycine (DMG) with one more methyl group. The chemical structure of TMG is therefore is actually a glycine molecule holding onto three methyl groups, so like DMG, TMG is considered a " methyl donor " or methyl " bank " . The additional methyl group actually makes TMG a more active methyl donor than DMG which is a benefit in some individuals. TMG can support the formation of methionine by methylating homocysteine. Some of this methionine eventually is converted into SAMe (S-adenosylmthionine), which can help maintain healthy serotonin levels in the body and support mood and well-being. As with DMG, TMG in the body, with the help of a coenzyme of riboflavin, supplies methyl groups which attach to folic acid to form methylene tetrahydrofolate, an important component of many biochemical processes in the body including cellular perception and response. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Steve, Welcome to the list. I have a daughter who was diagnosed in 1999 with PDD-NOS, a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Many children who are on the spectrum also have ADD/ADHD. My daughter had ADHD but did not need a separate diagnosis for it because having the diagnosis of PDD-NOS includes, by definition, the characteristics of ADD/ADHD. Many doctors, but certainly not all, feel that ADD/ADHD is part of the spectrum, just the extreme mild end. So, people who have ADD/ADHD might be interested to know that the huge surge in autistic spectrums diagnosis in children follows the huge increase in the amount of mercury preserved shots that they received. In other words, people with ADD/ADHD may have a milder form of mercury poisoning. The mercury preservative in shots is called thimerosal. It is in most flu shots, and while it has been removed from infant shots it is in many boosters for anyone over the age of 7 (tetanus shots would be the common one for adults). There are other ways of receiving mercury - amalgams (metal dental fillings) - especially deteriorating amalgams, the air we breathe, the water, the food (there was a book (can't remember the title) about how it was spread on croplands as part of the sewage waste)). Some products contained mercury (it was a preservative in ear drops, eye drops, contact lense solution, among others). Discussing mercury poisoning is beyond the scope of this list, but there are other lists that can help you. I chelated my daughter using a DAN! doctor and also with help from the Autism Mercury list. (Chelation is the administration of drugs that bind with the toxic metals and then are eliminated through the poop and urine. Chelation can be done with pills that are swallowed, pills that are opened up and put into a drink, through a transdermal creme, or even at a doctor's office through an IV.) So how does this relate to digestive issues? Some possibilities: toxic metals can wreak havoc in the gut contributing to leaky gut, possibly preventing it from healing. And/or, a leaky gut prevents the absorption of beneficial nutrients that would help your body naturally chelate. And/or, mercury negatively affects the immune system, and food sensitivities are the immune system going awry, so they may be related. Remember the element chart from high school chemistry class? There are over 100 elements on it. The ONLY elements more dangerous than mercury are the radioactive elements!!!! One more thing about mercury, and another reason that it is so very dangerous is that, in some people, mercury can shut down the very system that our bodies naturally have to naturally detoxify. Then the body accumulates not only mercury but also other toxic metals (i.e., lead, arsenic, cadmium). Mercury plus other toxic metals combined together are even incredibly more toxic. For example, LD = lethal dose. An LD of 1 means that a small enough dose of a substance is given to 100 rats just up to the point that just one dies. A test was done with an LD dose 1 of mercury plus an LD dose of 1 of another metal (can't remember which one - maybe cadmium). How many rats died? Two? More than that - all 100! So the synergestic effect of mercury plus other toxic metals is incredible. The good news is that you can do something about all of this if you are interested in pursuing it. It will take some time educating yourself first. I hope that this is helpful (and not too depressing!) Carolyn (I recently restarted SCD and am about to start my daughter on SCD (when spring break starts this Friday afternoon!) (You know what we'll be doing on our spring break - experimenting with new recipes!) > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Steve, Welcome to the list. I have a daughter who was diagnosed in 1999 with PDD-NOS, a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Many children who are on the spectrum also have ADD/ADHD. My daughter had ADHD but did not need a separate diagnosis for it because having the diagnosis of PDD-NOS includes, by definition, the characteristics of ADD/ADHD. Many doctors, but certainly not all, feel that ADD/ADHD is part of the spectrum, just the extreme mild end. So, people who have ADD/ADHD might be interested to know that the huge surge in autistic spectrums diagnosis in children follows the huge increase in the amount of mercury preserved shots that they received. In other words, people with ADD/ADHD may have a milder form of mercury poisoning. The mercury preservative in shots is called thimerosal. It is in most flu shots, and while it has been removed from infant shots it is in many boosters for anyone over the age of 7 (tetanus shots would be the common one for adults). There are other ways of receiving mercury - amalgams (metal dental fillings) - especially deteriorating amalgams, the air we breathe, the water, the food (there was a book (can't remember the title) about how it was spread on croplands as part of the sewage waste)). Some products contained mercury (it was a preservative in ear drops, eye drops, contact lense solution, among others). Discussing mercury poisoning is beyond the scope of this list, but there are other lists that can help you. I chelated my daughter using a DAN! doctor and also with help from the Autism Mercury list. (Chelation is the administration of drugs that bind with the toxic metals and then are eliminated through the poop and urine. Chelation can be done with pills that are swallowed, pills that are opened up and put into a drink, through a transdermal creme, or even at a doctor's office through an IV.) So how does this relate to digestive issues? Some possibilities: toxic metals can wreak havoc in the gut contributing to leaky gut, possibly preventing it from healing. And/or, a leaky gut prevents the absorption of beneficial nutrients that would help your body naturally chelate. And/or, mercury negatively affects the immune system, and food sensitivities are the immune system going awry, so they may be related. Remember the element chart from high school chemistry class? There are over 100 elements on it. The ONLY elements more dangerous than mercury are the radioactive elements!!!! One more thing about mercury, and another reason that it is so very dangerous is that, in some people, mercury can shut down the very system that our bodies naturally have to naturally detoxify. Then the body accumulates not only mercury but also other toxic metals (i.e., lead, arsenic, cadmium). Mercury plus other toxic metals combined together are even incredibly more toxic. For example, LD = lethal dose. An LD of 1 means that a small enough dose of a substance is given to 100 rats just up to the point that just one dies. A test was done with an LD dose 1 of mercury plus an LD dose of 1 of another metal (can't remember which one - maybe cadmium). How many rats died? Two? More than that - all 100! So the synergestic effect of mercury plus other toxic metals is incredible. The good news is that you can do something about all of this if you are interested in pursuing it. It will take some time educating yourself first. I hope that this is helpful (and not too depressing!) Carolyn (I recently restarted SCD and am about to start my daughter on SCD (when spring break starts this Friday afternoon!) (You know what we'll be doing on our spring break - experimenting with new recipes!) > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Steve, Welcome to the list. I have a daughter who was diagnosed in 1999 with PDD-NOS, a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Many children who are on the spectrum also have ADD/ADHD. My daughter had ADHD but did not need a separate diagnosis for it because having the diagnosis of PDD-NOS includes, by definition, the characteristics of ADD/ADHD. Many doctors, but certainly not all, feel that ADD/ADHD is part of the spectrum, just the extreme mild end. So, people who have ADD/ADHD might be interested to know that the huge surge in autistic spectrums diagnosis in children follows the huge increase in the amount of mercury preserved shots that they received. In other words, people with ADD/ADHD may have a milder form of mercury poisoning. The mercury preservative in shots is called thimerosal. It is in most flu shots, and while it has been removed from infant shots it is in many boosters for anyone over the age of 7 (tetanus shots would be the common one for adults). There are other ways of receiving mercury - amalgams (metal dental fillings) - especially deteriorating amalgams, the air we breathe, the water, the food (there was a book (can't remember the title) about how it was spread on croplands as part of the sewage waste)). Some products contained mercury (it was a preservative in ear drops, eye drops, contact lense solution, among others). Discussing mercury poisoning is beyond the scope of this list, but there are other lists that can help you. I chelated my daughter using a DAN! doctor and also with help from the Autism Mercury list. (Chelation is the administration of drugs that bind with the toxic metals and then are eliminated through the poop and urine. Chelation can be done with pills that are swallowed, pills that are opened up and put into a drink, through a transdermal creme, or even at a doctor's office through an IV.) So how does this relate to digestive issues? Some possibilities: toxic metals can wreak havoc in the gut contributing to leaky gut, possibly preventing it from healing. And/or, a leaky gut prevents the absorption of beneficial nutrients that would help your body naturally chelate. And/or, mercury negatively affects the immune system, and food sensitivities are the immune system going awry, so they may be related. Remember the element chart from high school chemistry class? There are over 100 elements on it. The ONLY elements more dangerous than mercury are the radioactive elements!!!! One more thing about mercury, and another reason that it is so very dangerous is that, in some people, mercury can shut down the very system that our bodies naturally have to naturally detoxify. Then the body accumulates not only mercury but also other toxic metals (i.e., lead, arsenic, cadmium). Mercury plus other toxic metals combined together are even incredibly more toxic. For example, LD = lethal dose. An LD of 1 means that a small enough dose of a substance is given to 100 rats just up to the point that just one dies. A test was done with an LD dose 1 of mercury plus an LD dose of 1 of another metal (can't remember which one - maybe cadmium). How many rats died? Two? More than that - all 100! So the synergestic effect of mercury plus other toxic metals is incredible. The good news is that you can do something about all of this if you are interested in pursuing it. It will take some time educating yourself first. I hope that this is helpful (and not too depressing!) Carolyn (I recently restarted SCD and am about to start my daughter on SCD (when spring break starts this Friday afternoon!) (You know what we'll be doing on our spring break - experimenting with new recipes!) > > Hi > > I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good > results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if > it is part of my digestive issues. > I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might > need to cut honey back to a minimum. > does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having > it improve with scd? or other therapies? > > thanks > Steve > chrons 30+yrs > scd 8yrs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Steve! I have a daughter with ADD as well as two other children with gastrointestinal problems (including leaky gut). All three of my children labs are coming back showing heavy metal toxicity. I wanted to say that I echo everything that Carolyn said, and -- as I said before -- we are getting back all kinds of lab tests (blood, urine, stool, hair, etc.) which confirm what she is saying. SCD plays an important part to the add problem. My daughter has shown tremendous improvement in focus, behavior, neurological ability, etc. from the diet and an individualized supplement protocol. But, I believe, we will need to take extra measures to pull her metals after some more gut healing. Sometimes you have to hit this problem from a couple different angles at once. But if nothing else, stick with SCD. There is evidence that over time it will chelate metals from the body (although there is not evidence that it will pull the metals that have passed the blood/brain barrier). Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) SCD 1 month mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems, add) , 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema) SCD 3 months Re: ADD/ADHD Hi Steve, Welcome to the list. I have a daughter who was diagnosed in 1999 with PDD-NOS, a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Many children who are on the spectrum also have ADD/ADHD. My daughter had ADHD but did not need a separate diagnosis for it because having the diagnosis of PDD-NOS includes, by definition, the characteristics of ADD/ADHD. Many doctors, but certainly not all, feel that ADD/ADHD is part of the spectrum, just the extreme mild end. So, people who have ADD/ADHD might be interested to know that the huge surge in autistic spectrums diagnosis in children follows the huge increase in the amount of mercury preserved shots that they received. In other words, people with ADD/ADHD may have a milder form of mercury poisoning. The mercury preservative in shots is called thimerosal. It is in most flu shots, and while it has been removed from infant shots it is in many boosters for anyone over the age of 7 (tetanus shots would be the common one for adults). There are other ways of receiving mercury - amalgams (metal dental fillings) - especially deteriorating amalgams, the air we breathe, the water, the food (there was a book (can't remember the title) about how it was spread on croplands as part of the sewage waste)). Some products contained mercury (it was a preservative in ear drops, eye drops, contact lense solution, among others). Discussing mercury poisoning is beyond the scope of this list, but there are other lists that can help you. I chelated my daughter using a DAN! doctor and also with help from the Autism Mercury list. (Chelation is the administration of drugs that bind with the toxic metals and then are eliminated through the poop and urine. Chelation can be done with pills that are swallowed, pills that are opened up and put into a drink, through a transdermal creme, or even at a doctor's office through an IV.) So how does this relate to digestive issues? Some possibilities: toxic metals can wreak havoc in the gut contributing to leaky gut, possibly preventing it from healing. And/or, a leaky gut prevents the absorption of beneficial nutrients that would help your body naturally chelate. And/or, mercury negatively affects the immune system, and food sensitivities are the immune system going awry, so they may be related. Remember the element chart from high school chemistry class? There are over 100 elements on it. The ONLY elements more dangerous than mercury are the radioactive elements!!!! One more thing about mercury, and another reason that it is so very dangerous is that, in some people, mercury can shut down the very system that our bodies naturally have to naturally detoxify. Then the body accumulates not only mercury but also other toxic metals (i.e., lead, arsenic, cadmium). Mercury plus other toxic metals combined together are even incredibly more toxic. For example, LD = lethal dose. An LD of 1 means that a small enough dose of a substance is given to 100 rats just up to the point that just one dies. A test was done with an LD dose 1 of mercury plus an LD dose of 1 of another metal (can't remember which one - maybe cadmium). How many rats died? Two? More than that - all 100! So the synergestic effect of mercury plus other toxic metals is incredible. The good news is that you can do something about all of this if you are interested in pursuing it. It will take some time educating yourself first. I hope that this is helpful (and not too depressing!) Carolyn (I recently restarted SCD and am about to start my daughter on SCD (when spring break starts this Friday afternoon!) (You know what we'll be doing on our spring break - experimenting with new recipes!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Steve! I have a daughter with ADD as well as two other children with gastrointestinal problems (including leaky gut). All three of my children labs are coming back showing heavy metal toxicity. I wanted to say that I echo everything that Carolyn said, and -- as I said before -- we are getting back all kinds of lab tests (blood, urine, stool, hair, etc.) which confirm what she is saying. SCD plays an important part to the add problem. My daughter has shown tremendous improvement in focus, behavior, neurological ability, etc. from the diet and an individualized supplement protocol. But, I believe, we will need to take extra measures to pull her metals after some more gut healing. Sometimes you have to hit this problem from a couple different angles at once. But if nothing else, stick with SCD. There is evidence that over time it will chelate metals from the body (although there is not evidence that it will pull the metals that have passed the blood/brain barrier). Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) SCD 1 month mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems, add) , 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema) SCD 3 months Re: ADD/ADHD Hi Steve, Welcome to the list. I have a daughter who was diagnosed in 1999 with PDD-NOS, a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Many children who are on the spectrum also have ADD/ADHD. My daughter had ADHD but did not need a separate diagnosis for it because having the diagnosis of PDD-NOS includes, by definition, the characteristics of ADD/ADHD. Many doctors, but certainly not all, feel that ADD/ADHD is part of the spectrum, just the extreme mild end. So, people who have ADD/ADHD might be interested to know that the huge surge in autistic spectrums diagnosis in children follows the huge increase in the amount of mercury preserved shots that they received. In other words, people with ADD/ADHD may have a milder form of mercury poisoning. The mercury preservative in shots is called thimerosal. It is in most flu shots, and while it has been removed from infant shots it is in many boosters for anyone over the age of 7 (tetanus shots would be the common one for adults). There are other ways of receiving mercury - amalgams (metal dental fillings) - especially deteriorating amalgams, the air we breathe, the water, the food (there was a book (can't remember the title) about how it was spread on croplands as part of the sewage waste)). Some products contained mercury (it was a preservative in ear drops, eye drops, contact lense solution, among others). Discussing mercury poisoning is beyond the scope of this list, but there are other lists that can help you. I chelated my daughter using a DAN! doctor and also with help from the Autism Mercury list. (Chelation is the administration of drugs that bind with the toxic metals and then are eliminated through the poop and urine. Chelation can be done with pills that are swallowed, pills that are opened up and put into a drink, through a transdermal creme, or even at a doctor's office through an IV.) So how does this relate to digestive issues? Some possibilities: toxic metals can wreak havoc in the gut contributing to leaky gut, possibly preventing it from healing. And/or, a leaky gut prevents the absorption of beneficial nutrients that would help your body naturally chelate. And/or, mercury negatively affects the immune system, and food sensitivities are the immune system going awry, so they may be related. Remember the element chart from high school chemistry class? There are over 100 elements on it. The ONLY elements more dangerous than mercury are the radioactive elements!!!! One more thing about mercury, and another reason that it is so very dangerous is that, in some people, mercury can shut down the very system that our bodies naturally have to naturally detoxify. Then the body accumulates not only mercury but also other toxic metals (i.e., lead, arsenic, cadmium). Mercury plus other toxic metals combined together are even incredibly more toxic. For example, LD = lethal dose. An LD of 1 means that a small enough dose of a substance is given to 100 rats just up to the point that just one dies. A test was done with an LD dose 1 of mercury plus an LD dose of 1 of another metal (can't remember which one - maybe cadmium). How many rats died? Two? More than that - all 100! So the synergestic effect of mercury plus other toxic metals is incredible. The good news is that you can do something about all of this if you are interested in pursuing it. It will take some time educating yourself first. I hope that this is helpful (and not too depressing!) Carolyn (I recently restarted SCD and am about to start my daughter on SCD (when spring break starts this Friday afternoon!) (You know what we'll be doing on our spring break - experimenting with new recipes!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 WE are new compared to you.......day 28...but we are having a heck of a time with dairy/SCD safe forms...even goat diary/SCD safe forms...in time this may change...but for me it makes me have neurological problems when I ingest the stuff.....my son's ADHD come back.....food for thought...maybe if you haven't already..... cut out the dairy for a while and see what happens. Antoinette (SCD day 28 entire family: Celiac , ADHD, ADD, ASD and other neurological problems related to a damaged gut) ADD/ADHD Hi I'm new to the list. I've been on scd for 8 years and have had good results but I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD and I'm wondering if it is part of my digestive issues. I'm already on a very strict version of scd, but I'm thinking I might need to cut honey back to a minimum. does anyone have experience with add/adhd in adults or kids and having it improve with scd? or other therapies? thanks Steve chrons 30+yrs scd 8yrs For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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