Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 > > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat > hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is > grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in > advance. > One member of the Healing Crow list who follows the SCD is a strong advocate of grass fed beef so I tried it five years ago. It tasted like grass fed shoe soles. I get some meat at Whole Foods that is anti biotic and hormone free as well as tasty and tender. Ingredients in the feed can make a differnce. I was allergic to a new dog until swithcing him from canned food containing grain to a raw meat and veggie diet for him. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I used to get a brand of grass fed beef here in Denver...can't remember the brand. But it was the best ground beef that I had ever had. Guess they are all different. Our Vitamin Cottage grocery sells both grain fed and pasture fed in the frozen meat area. Yes, I think the grain, is the issue. gwen carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote: > > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat > hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is > grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in > advance. > One member of the Healing Crow list who follows the SCD is a strong advocate of grass fed beef so I tried it five years ago. It tasted like grass fed shoe soles. I get some meat at Whole Foods that is anti biotic and hormone free as well as tasty and tender. Ingredients in the feed can make a differnce. I was allergic to a new dog until swithcing him from canned food containing grain to a raw meat and veggie diet for him. Carol F. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I used to get a brand of grass fed beef here in Denver...can't remember the brand. But it was the best ground beef that I had ever had. Guess they are all different. Our Vitamin Cottage grocery sells both grain fed and pasture fed in the frozen meat area. Yes, I think the grain, is the issue. gwen carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote: > > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat > hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is > grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in > advance. > One member of the Healing Crow list who follows the SCD is a strong advocate of grass fed beef so I tried it five years ago. It tasted like grass fed shoe soles. I get some meat at Whole Foods that is anti biotic and hormone free as well as tasty and tender. Ingredients in the feed can make a differnce. I was allergic to a new dog until swithcing him from canned food containing grain to a raw meat and veggie diet for him. Carol F. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I was looking into this myself. It has a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio, so is considered healthier. But I have also heard it can be very hard to get a good tasting grassfed meat. I buy a hind quarter of beef from a local farmer. I asked him about grass fed and he basically said the same thing regarding taste and texture. What he does is fully grass feeds the cattle up until the last 2 months before slaughter, that is when you want fast growth for tender meat. The grains he adds are mostly organic, but not 100%. No hormones, antiobiotics, etc. They are well cared for animals on a nice clean farm. I bought a small-med size chest freezer that will hold a hind quarter of beef plus a side or pork. I also buy a whole lamb. You can't beat the price, my beef averages $3/lb and lots of nice T-bone, porterhouse and tenderloin steaks are included in the hind quarter. If you can hunt around for a relatively local farmer that sells and raises meat this way, it is well worth it. Check out your local cooperative extension office, they may be able to point you to a farmer. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I was looking into this myself. It has a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio, so is considered healthier. But I have also heard it can be very hard to get a good tasting grassfed meat. I buy a hind quarter of beef from a local farmer. I asked him about grass fed and he basically said the same thing regarding taste and texture. What he does is fully grass feeds the cattle up until the last 2 months before slaughter, that is when you want fast growth for tender meat. The grains he adds are mostly organic, but not 100%. No hormones, antiobiotics, etc. They are well cared for animals on a nice clean farm. I bought a small-med size chest freezer that will hold a hind quarter of beef plus a side or pork. I also buy a whole lamb. You can't beat the price, my beef averages $3/lb and lots of nice T-bone, porterhouse and tenderloin steaks are included in the hind quarter. If you can hunt around for a relatively local farmer that sells and raises meat this way, it is well worth it. Check out your local cooperative extension office, they may be able to point you to a farmer. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I was looking into this myself. It has a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio, so is considered healthier. But I have also heard it can be very hard to get a good tasting grassfed meat. I buy a hind quarter of beef from a local farmer. I asked him about grass fed and he basically said the same thing regarding taste and texture. What he does is fully grass feeds the cattle up until the last 2 months before slaughter, that is when you want fast growth for tender meat. The grains he adds are mostly organic, but not 100%. No hormones, antiobiotics, etc. They are well cared for animals on a nice clean farm. I bought a small-med size chest freezer that will hold a hind quarter of beef plus a side or pork. I also buy a whole lamb. You can't beat the price, my beef averages $3/lb and lots of nice T-bone, porterhouse and tenderloin steaks are included in the hind quarter. If you can hunt around for a relatively local farmer that sells and raises meat this way, it is well worth it. Check out your local cooperative extension office, they may be able to point you to a farmer. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 > > I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. > You probably won't care then what Elaine said. That was that grass fed meat and a great concern for it was unecessary. However she also tended to discount my MCS and it took me several years to get her to respect my schemical ensitivities and latex allergy. She had not been at all familiar with the latex thing and the foods it cross reacts to. Somehow it never entered her studies. She accepted the research i showed her. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 > > I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. > You probably won't care then what Elaine said. That was that grass fed meat and a great concern for it was unecessary. However she also tended to discount my MCS and it took me several years to get her to respect my schemical ensitivities and latex allergy. She had not been at all familiar with the latex thing and the foods it cross reacts to. Somehow it never entered her studies. She accepted the research i showed her. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 > > I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. > You probably won't care then what Elaine said. That was that grass fed meat and a great concern for it was unecessary. However she also tended to discount my MCS and it took me several years to get her to respect my schemical ensitivities and latex allergy. She had not been at all familiar with the latex thing and the foods it cross reacts to. Somehow it never entered her studies. She accepted the research i showed her. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 My son has a corn allergy and we eat only grass-fed beef, he seems to tolerate it, even though he normally reacts and tests allergic to beef. Suzanne > > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat > hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is > grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in > advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 My son has a corn allergy and we eat only grass-fed beef, he seems to tolerate it, even though he normally reacts and tests allergic to beef. Suzanne > > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat > hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is > grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in > advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Beef., lamb? People now i know I am old. Old people line up for the Early Bird in Florida and what do they order? Fish. I hear very few fish stories around here except for how much mercury is in canned tuna. We worry about eating too much meat, too much red meat. One person who is not a vegetarian only uses it twice a week. Get hooked here. Fish. This takes about five minutes: Heat a skillet. Add a large or two medium cloves of minced garlic. Throw in five or six good sized scallops (another bargain at Costco) Squeeze a wedge of lemon over them. Sprinkle on a healthy shake of dried basil. Turn the scallops as they will brown rapidly. Don't overcook. At the last minute toss in a tablespoon of grated italian Parmesan and keep stirring. If you keep kosher, do this with chunks of a nice white fish. Carol F. SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Suzanne, That is a mighty interesting observation there! Summer Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: My son has a corn allergy and we eat only grass-fed beef, he seems to tolerate it, even though he normally reacts and tests allergic to beef. Suzanne __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Suzanne, That is a mighty interesting observation there! Summer Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: My son has a corn allergy and we eat only grass-fed beef, he seems to tolerate it, even though he normally reacts and tests allergic to beef. Suzanne __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Suzanne, That is a mighty interesting observation there! Summer Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: My son has a corn allergy and we eat only grass-fed beef, he seems to tolerate it, even though he normally reacts and tests allergic to beef. Suzanne __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks Summer, I try to buy organic range fed meat from the health food store near us. One difference I've noticed is that, when I boil the range fed chicken there is a lot less 'gunk' to skim off. When I get chicken from the supermarket, even 'hormone and antibiotic free', there's still a lot of 'gunk'; it makes me nervous. Is the gunk toxins? Does the sunlight and fresh air help the animals to detox. Do you know why this is? or what's going on? Agape, Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 brandi, cap lock stuck. heehee yes, animals are just like humans in that their bodies require natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise to be healthy, for the exact same reasons we require it. furthermore, animals who spend most of their times in pens and not in a pasture are breathing their own toxins in constantly. hormone and antibiotic free meat, while a better choice than meat fed antibiotics, may not have much access to natural sunlight, exercise and fresh air. even some free range animals sold at market are kept in movable tents, not really getting fresh sunlight or having much space...still more space than living in a cage one's whole life, and less adrenalin circulating in the system. you can ask the store or butcher what company supplies the meat, and inquire of them how they take care of their meat. if you have any ability locally to find some farmers, see how their raising them, that is the best choice. when i must buy store bought eggs, the ones at trader joe's, free range/organic are 2.99 a dozen, and pretty good. trader joe's ranger chickens are pretty good, and they sell grass fed ground beef that is excellent. it tastes 100 percent better than other ground beef, in my opinion. when animals do not receive adequate exercise, and they are eating an inproper diet, their livers store more fat and is not toned, meaning, less toxins the animal consumes can leave the animals body. this is true for all the organs. add to that some feed additives for fattening, like cadmium laced grain, and there is a much larger problem for the person or pet that eats this. like big fish consume smaller fish, and inherit any heavy metals and toxins they have, this happens to us too. summer davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: Thanks Summer, I try to buy organic range fed meat from the health food store near us. One difference I've noticed is that, when I boil the range fed chicken there is a lot less 'gunk' to skim off. When I get chicken from the supermarket, even 'hormone and antibiotic free', there's still a lot of 'gunk'; it makes me nervous. Is the gunk toxins? Does the sunlight and fresh air help the animals to detox. Do you know why this is? or what's going on? Agape, Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 brandi, cap lock stuck. heehee yes, animals are just like humans in that their bodies require natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise to be healthy, for the exact same reasons we require it. furthermore, animals who spend most of their times in pens and not in a pasture are breathing their own toxins in constantly. hormone and antibiotic free meat, while a better choice than meat fed antibiotics, may not have much access to natural sunlight, exercise and fresh air. even some free range animals sold at market are kept in movable tents, not really getting fresh sunlight or having much space...still more space than living in a cage one's whole life, and less adrenalin circulating in the system. you can ask the store or butcher what company supplies the meat, and inquire of them how they take care of their meat. if you have any ability locally to find some farmers, see how their raising them, that is the best choice. when i must buy store bought eggs, the ones at trader joe's, free range/organic are 2.99 a dozen, and pretty good. trader joe's ranger chickens are pretty good, and they sell grass fed ground beef that is excellent. it tastes 100 percent better than other ground beef, in my opinion. when animals do not receive adequate exercise, and they are eating an inproper diet, their livers store more fat and is not toned, meaning, less toxins the animal consumes can leave the animals body. this is true for all the organs. add to that some feed additives for fattening, like cadmium laced grain, and there is a much larger problem for the person or pet that eats this. like big fish consume smaller fish, and inherit any heavy metals and toxins they have, this happens to us too. summer davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: Thanks Summer, I try to buy organic range fed meat from the health food store near us. One difference I've noticed is that, when I boil the range fed chicken there is a lot less 'gunk' to skim off. When I get chicken from the supermarket, even 'hormone and antibiotic free', there's still a lot of 'gunk'; it makes me nervous. Is the gunk toxins? Does the sunlight and fresh air help the animals to detox. Do you know why this is? or what's going on? Agape, Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in tissue and muscle. Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to the toxin buildup. Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store bought. Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut flora! If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave the body, it is a fattening element for humans. These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic waste generated by the animal. A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It is not healthy. Summer juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in advance. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 When I buy store bought eggs I buy Organic Valley Omega 3 brown eggs, I have to be very careful with store bought eggs even organic, some make me incredibly sick, these I do well with, it all depends what they are fed, > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: grass fed? >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:21:39 -0800 (PST) > >brandi, > > cap lock stuck. heehee yes, animals are just like humans in that their >bodies require natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise to be healthy, for >the exact same reasons we require it. furthermore, animals who spend most >of their times in pens and not in a pasture are breathing their own toxins >in constantly. hormone and antibiotic free meat, while a better choice than >meat fed antibiotics, may not have much access to natural sunlight, >exercise and fresh air. even some free range animals sold at market are >kept in movable tents, not really getting fresh sunlight or having much >space...still more space than living in a cage one's whole life, and less >adrenalin circulating in the system. you can ask the store or butcher what >company supplies the meat, and inquire of them how they take care of their >meat. if you have any ability locally to find some farmers, see how their >raising them, that is the best choice. > > when i must buy store bought eggs, the ones at trader joe's, free >range/organic are 2.99 a dozen, and pretty good. > > trader joe's ranger chickens are pretty good, and they sell grass fed >ground beef that is excellent. it tastes 100 percent better than other >ground beef, in my opinion. > > when animals do not receive adequate exercise, and they are eating an >inproper diet, their livers store more fat and is not toned, meaning, less >toxins the animal consumes can leave the animals body. this is true for all >the organs. add to that some feed additives for fattening, like cadmium >laced grain, and there is a much larger problem for the person or pet that >eats this. like big fish consume smaller fish, and inherit any heavy metals >and toxins they have, this happens to us too. > > summer > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: > Thanks Summer, > I try to buy organic range fed meat from the health food store near us. > One difference I've noticed is that, when I boil the range fed chicken >there is a lot less 'gunk' to skim off. When I get chicken from the >supermarket, even 'hormone and antibiotic free', there's still a lot of >'gunk'; it makes me nervous. Is the gunk toxins? > Does the sunlight and fresh air help the animals to detox. > Do you know why this is? or what's going on? > > Agape, > >Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: > I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. >Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed >grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to >digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky >gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in >tissue and muscle. > > Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 >ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has >negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to >the toxin buildup. > > Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you >will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. > > Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are >really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the >pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for >taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store >bought. > > Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry >salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, >because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut >flora! > > If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 >pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some >friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. > > Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op >www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along >northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and >montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of >cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA >present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential >fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of >Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. > > Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and >arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated >with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented >with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that >extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave >the body, it is a fattening element for humans. > > These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be >healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a >few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. > > One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural >sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, >which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to >animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced >by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver >capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural >sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system >and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic >waste generated by the animal. > > A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can >eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It >is not healthy. > > Summer > >juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat >hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is >grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in >advance. > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 When I buy store bought eggs I buy Organic Valley Omega 3 brown eggs, I have to be very careful with store bought eggs even organic, some make me incredibly sick, these I do well with, it all depends what they are fed, > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: grass fed? >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:21:39 -0800 (PST) > >brandi, > > cap lock stuck. heehee yes, animals are just like humans in that their >bodies require natural sunlight, fresh air and exercise to be healthy, for >the exact same reasons we require it. furthermore, animals who spend most >of their times in pens and not in a pasture are breathing their own toxins >in constantly. hormone and antibiotic free meat, while a better choice than >meat fed antibiotics, may not have much access to natural sunlight, >exercise and fresh air. even some free range animals sold at market are >kept in movable tents, not really getting fresh sunlight or having much >space...still more space than living in a cage one's whole life, and less >adrenalin circulating in the system. you can ask the store or butcher what >company supplies the meat, and inquire of them how they take care of their >meat. if you have any ability locally to find some farmers, see how their >raising them, that is the best choice. > > when i must buy store bought eggs, the ones at trader joe's, free >range/organic are 2.99 a dozen, and pretty good. > > trader joe's ranger chickens are pretty good, and they sell grass fed >ground beef that is excellent. it tastes 100 percent better than other >ground beef, in my opinion. > > when animals do not receive adequate exercise, and they are eating an >inproper diet, their livers store more fat and is not toned, meaning, less >toxins the animal consumes can leave the animals body. this is true for all >the organs. add to that some feed additives for fattening, like cadmium >laced grain, and there is a much larger problem for the person or pet that >eats this. like big fish consume smaller fish, and inherit any heavy metals >and toxins they have, this happens to us too. > > summer > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: > Thanks Summer, > I try to buy organic range fed meat from the health food store near us. > One difference I've noticed is that, when I boil the range fed chicken >there is a lot less 'gunk' to skim off. When I get chicken from the >supermarket, even 'hormone and antibiotic free', there's still a lot of >'gunk'; it makes me nervous. Is the gunk toxins? > Does the sunlight and fresh air help the animals to detox. > Do you know why this is? or what's going on? > > Agape, > >Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: > I buy most of my pasture fed meat from local farms or through my co-op. >Cows have not developed stomachs able to digest grains well, and those fed >grains, even with heavy vitamin/mineral supplementation, are unable to >digest and assimilate all their nurtients....because they develop leaky >gut. This also leads to bacteria overgrowth and additional toxins stored in >tissue and muscle. > > Beef naturally has high amounts of omega 3, with a smaller omega 6 >ratio. In the commercial meat industry, the opposite is true, the beef has >negligent amounts of omega 3's and high amounts of omega 6, in addition to >the toxin buildup. > > Pasture raised, organic meat tastes better, has a great flavor, and you >will find that going back to grain fed meat, tastewise, is very hard. > > Beware some people who may pass of meat as pastured, when they are >really only free range but being offered grains. Cows will forgo the >pasture for grain treats, like my autistic son will forgo whole foods for >taco bell. I always check out my food sources throughly, even if store >bought. > > Milk and meat from 100% pastured animals are less likely to carry >salmonella, ecoli and other subsequent infections that infect people, >because like the principles of SCD, they have healthy gut and healthy gut >flora! > > If you live in my state of Washington, I can hook you up with 1/4 >pasture, organic well cared for cow that is being raised for me and some >friends, $2 a pound. It will be ready this october/november. > > Also, if you live in the co-oping area for my co-op >www.azurestandard.com, which delivers for free at drop points all along >northern california, oregon, washington, alasks, parts of idaho and >montana, you can get the famous pastured Piedmontese beef, an old breed of >cattle from Italy that, according to the USDA study, shows the highest CLA >present. Polyunsaturated fat, like in healthy cattle, carry the essential >fatty acids that our bodies can not produce. In fact, cholesterol lebels of >Piedmontese are less than that of store bought beef. > > Pastured animals are also less likely to have high levels of cadmium and >arsenic in their bodies, with the exception of land areas being treated >with chemical fertilizers. Feeds, if not organic, often are supplemented >with cadmium, as it puts weight on cattle, and there are those that >extropolate, since cadmium, a heavy metal toxin, is hard pressed to leave >the body, it is a fattening element for humans. > > These are just barely scraping a few reasons why pastured animals can be >healthier and part of a healing diet and/or a healthy diet. I know quite a >few of my fellow members on the SCD websites only eat pastured meat. > > One last note, free range animals tend to get copious amounts of natural >sunlight, leading to the formation of strong bones and healthy organs, >which translates into healthy meats. Not only are the hormones fed to >animals under suspicion as endocrine disruptors, but the hormones produced >by not so healthy animals tend to build up, especially with taxed liver >capability and leaky gut. The organs have to work too hard. Natural >sunlight, fresh air and exercise are needed for the animals immune system >and other organ systems to function healthily, thus reducing metabolic >waste generated by the animal. > > A person who receives no natural sunlight, exercise, or fresh air, can >eat the most healing diet available, and still struggle with sickness. It >is not healthy. > > Summer > >juliecarrey juliecarrey@...> wrote: > i have seen some people have mentioned grass fed meat. i buy my meat >hormone free but it does not say grass fed. does it matter if it is >grass fed? what kind of meat do you all buy? thanks for the info in >advance. > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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