Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Marjorie, I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because others have had success with them. Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to reduce inflammation. The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht ml Hope that helps, Matija Foods that fight arthritis pain Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating -- specific foods. By Jean Carper Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big difference. Rheumatoid arthritis In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming joints. It strikes more women than men. FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil, also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well- conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were able to cut their doses of painkillers. Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil. A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17 capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish. Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed, borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish oil. OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated animal fat in dairy products and meat. VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have undefined benefits. SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants: Ginger thins the blood. A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991 British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms. VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also, when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E. Go to top Osteoarthritis This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects 16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock of: Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E. McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400 IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over 2,000 IU. Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri, researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when taking prescription drugs. If you have arthritis . . . DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines, mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis, according to one expert. COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil capsules. AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils. Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis. GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis. NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if you find it helpful. > > My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm > interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore > tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and are > used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post squeak > through. > > I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on > FatsForHealth.com > (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my > gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we > understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more > balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA? > (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in > particular.) > > One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to that > screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to > throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced by > taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so, > how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several > times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil? > > Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch albacore > tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much better > than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch tuna > would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important > omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna > Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on > the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their > tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils. > Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over something > like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to > comfort a future customer, or what? ) > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Marjorie, I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because others have had success with them. Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to reduce inflammation. The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht ml Hope that helps, Matija Foods that fight arthritis pain Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating -- specific foods. By Jean Carper Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big difference. Rheumatoid arthritis In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming joints. It strikes more women than men. FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil, also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well- conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were able to cut their doses of painkillers. Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil. A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17 capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish. Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed, borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish oil. OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated animal fat in dairy products and meat. VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have undefined benefits. SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants: Ginger thins the blood. A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991 British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms. VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also, when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E. Go to top Osteoarthritis This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects 16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock of: Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E. McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400 IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over 2,000 IU. Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri, researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when taking prescription drugs. If you have arthritis . . . DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines, mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis, according to one expert. COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil capsules. AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils. Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis. GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis. NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if you find it helpful. > > My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm > interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore > tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and are > used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post squeak > through. > > I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on > FatsForHealth.com > (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my > gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we > understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more > balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA? > (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in > particular.) > > One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to that > screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to > throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced by > taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so, > how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several > times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil? > > Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch albacore > tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much better > than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch tuna > would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important > omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna > Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on > the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their > tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils. > Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over something > like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to > comfort a future customer, or what? ) > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Marjorie, I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because others have had success with them. Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to reduce inflammation. The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht ml Hope that helps, Matija Foods that fight arthritis pain Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating -- specific foods. By Jean Carper Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big difference. Rheumatoid arthritis In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming joints. It strikes more women than men. FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil, also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well- conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were able to cut their doses of painkillers. Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil. A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17 capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish. Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed, borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish oil. OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated animal fat in dairy products and meat. VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have undefined benefits. SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants: Ginger thins the blood. A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991 British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms. VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also, when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E. Go to top Osteoarthritis This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects 16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock of: Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E. McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400 IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over 2,000 IU. Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri, researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when taking prescription drugs. If you have arthritis . . . DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines, mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis, according to one expert. COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil capsules. AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils. Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis. GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis. NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if you find it helpful. > > My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm > interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore > tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and are > used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post squeak > through. > > I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on > FatsForHealth.com > (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my > gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we > understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more > balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA? > (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in > particular.) > > One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to that > screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to > throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced by > taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so, > how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several > times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil? > > Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch albacore > tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much better > than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch tuna > would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important > omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna > Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on > the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their > tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils. > Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over something > like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to > comfort a future customer, or what? ) > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Hi Marjorie, This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack of Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's: Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and Linoleic Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So, supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the derivative level. I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2 EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA. So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed oil for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2 weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since I started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy and overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive. I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr. Johanna Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr. Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2 Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage cheese. The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the cottage cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times a day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's. I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the cottage cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA). So far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased. Is your understanding different? I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine. I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of these basic questions within the next year or three. Thanks again, Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > Hi Marjorie, > > This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack of > Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea > puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for > months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little > improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was > taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's: > Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and Linoleic > Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are > derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and > GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of > LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So, > supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the derivative > level. > > I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2 > EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA. > So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed oil > for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement > in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin > less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2 > weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily > flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since I > started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy and > overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive. > > I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr. Johanna > Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr. > Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2 > Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage cheese. > The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the cottage > cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better > assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times a > day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's. > > I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the cottage > cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground > sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a > ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA). > > So far so good. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased. Is your understanding different? I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine. I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of these basic questions within the next year or three. Thanks again, Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > Hi Marjorie, > > This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack of > Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea > puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for > months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little > improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was > taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's: > Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and Linoleic > Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are > derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and > GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of > LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So, > supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the derivative > level. > > I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2 > EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA. > So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed oil > for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement > in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin > less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2 > weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily > flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since I > started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy and > overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive. > > I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr. Johanna > Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr. > Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2 > Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage cheese. > The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the cottage > cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better > assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times a > day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's. > > I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the cottage > cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground > sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a > ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA). > > So far so good. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased. Is your understanding different? I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine. I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of these basic questions within the next year or three. Thanks again, Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > Hi Marjorie, > > This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack of > Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea > puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for > months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little > improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was > taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's: > Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and Linoleic > Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are > derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and > GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of > LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So, > supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the derivative > level. > > I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2 > EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA. > So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed oil > for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement > in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin > less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2 > weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily > flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since I > started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy and > overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive. > > I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr. Johanna > Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr. > Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2 > Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage cheese. > The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the cottage > cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better > assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times a > day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's. > > I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the cottage > cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground > sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a > ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA). > > So far so good. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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