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Marjorie,

I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they

seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting

mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because

others have had success with them.

Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great

results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of

Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from

http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a

week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least

three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to

reduce inflammation.

The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of

omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the

url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say

that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you

read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija

http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht

ml

Hope that helps,

Matija

Foods that fight arthritis pain

Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating --

specific foods.

By Jean Carper

Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis,

osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million

Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and

sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and

joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big

difference.

Rheumatoid arthritis

In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming

joints. It strikes more women than men.

FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation

and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil,

also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a

highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well-

conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve

rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at

Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about

half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were

able to cut their doses of painkillers.

Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators

measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of

fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil.

A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17

capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in

three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to

develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish.

Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed,

borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish

oil.

OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to

cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of

inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation

are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and

sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated

animal fat in dairy products and meat.

VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a

vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis

pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit

eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have

undefined benefits.

SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger

have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that

daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or

eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve

symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants:

Ginger thins the blood.

A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could

trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis

symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991

British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in

more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy

products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of

inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have

controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli

study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms.

VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says

Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also,

when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E

for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The

daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E.

Go to top

Osteoarthritis

This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects

16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating

fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock

of:

Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E.

McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In

his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average

vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to

debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400

IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to

preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D

can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over

2,000 IU.

Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of

osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps

repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best

vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra

orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce

osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who

shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee

osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri,

researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for

prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid

plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when

taking prescription drugs.

If you have arthritis . . .

DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines,

mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and

spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis,

according to one expert.

COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil

capsules.

AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid

margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils.

Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products

if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis.

GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best

seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of

cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis.

NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are

blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research

to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if

you find it helpful.

>

> My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm

> interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore

> tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and

are

> used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post

squeak

> through.

>

> I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on

> FatsForHealth.com

> (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my

> gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we

> understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more

> balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA?

> (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in

> particular.)

>

> One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to

that

> screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to

> throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced

by

> taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so,

> how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several

> times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil?

>

> Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch

albacore

> tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much

better

> than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch

tuna

> would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important

> omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna

> Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on

> the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their

> tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils.

> Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over

something

> like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to

> comfort a future customer, or what? )

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Marjorie,

I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they

seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting

mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because

others have had success with them.

Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great

results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of

Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from

http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a

week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least

three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to

reduce inflammation.

The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of

omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the

url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say

that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you

read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija

http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht

ml

Hope that helps,

Matija

Foods that fight arthritis pain

Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating --

specific foods.

By Jean Carper

Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis,

osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million

Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and

sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and

joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big

difference.

Rheumatoid arthritis

In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming

joints. It strikes more women than men.

FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation

and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil,

also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a

highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well-

conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve

rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at

Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about

half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were

able to cut their doses of painkillers.

Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators

measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of

fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil.

A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17

capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in

three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to

develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish.

Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed,

borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish

oil.

OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to

cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of

inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation

are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and

sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated

animal fat in dairy products and meat.

VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a

vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis

pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit

eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have

undefined benefits.

SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger

have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that

daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or

eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve

symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants:

Ginger thins the blood.

A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could

trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis

symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991

British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in

more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy

products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of

inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have

controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli

study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms.

VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says

Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also,

when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E

for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The

daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E.

Go to top

Osteoarthritis

This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects

16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating

fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock

of:

Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E.

McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In

his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average

vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to

debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400

IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to

preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D

can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over

2,000 IU.

Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of

osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps

repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best

vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra

orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce

osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who

shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee

osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri,

researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for

prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid

plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when

taking prescription drugs.

If you have arthritis . . .

DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines,

mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and

spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis,

according to one expert.

COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil

capsules.

AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid

margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils.

Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products

if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis.

GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best

seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of

cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis.

NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are

blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research

to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if

you find it helpful.

>

> My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm

> interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore

> tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and

are

> used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post

squeak

> through.

>

> I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on

> FatsForHealth.com

> (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my

> gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we

> understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more

> balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA?

> (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in

> particular.)

>

> One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to

that

> screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to

> throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced

by

> taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so,

> how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several

> times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil?

>

> Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch

albacore

> tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much

better

> than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch

tuna

> would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important

> omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna

> Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on

> the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their

> tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils.

> Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over

something

> like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to

> comfort a future customer, or what? )

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Marjorie,

I don't take gamma-Linoleic Acid, borage oil or flax because they

seem to wreak havoc with my menstrual cycle. I tend to have spotting

mid cycle and my periods are longer. I've tried those oils because

others have had success with them.

Instead of omega 6 oils, I've been using omega 3 oils with great

results of reducing inflammation. I take about 5 grams a day of

Salmon Fish Oil (Carlson brand Noweigan Salmon Oil ordered from

http://www.iherb.com) and eat 4 ounces of salmon about 4 times a

week. I also use olive oil as my fat in my diet. Eating at least

three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil a day also has helped to

reduce inflammation.

The article below is one that seems fairly balanced on the use of

omega 3 oils to reduce inflammation. (You have to copy and paste the

url to view the article. I have pasted it here too. I have to say

that I eat meat and dairy foods (you'll see why I say this if you

read the article) and they don't make my face worse. Matija

http://www.usaweekend.com/food/carper_archive/970406carper_eatsmart.ht

ml

Hope that helps,

Matija

Foods that fight arthritis pain

Millions might reduce joint pain by adding -- or eliminating --

specific foods.

By Jean Carper

Arthritis is the umbrella word for rheumatoid arthritis,

osteoarthritis and other crippling conditions that plague 37 million

Americans. Pain is the main symptom, along with swollen, stiff and

sometimes disfigured joints. Common medical treatments are drugs and

joint replace- ments. But what you eat also can make a big

difference.

Rheumatoid arthritis

In this auto-immune disease, the body attacks itself, inflaming

joints. It strikes more women than men.

FISH OIL RELIEF. It's key to know that some fats promote inflammation

and others cool it down. The best anti-inflammatory fat is fish oil,

also known as omega-3 fat. It decidedly depresses the production of a

highly inflammatory agent, research shows. Moreover, 10 well-

conducted studies find that consuming fish oil helps relieve

rheumatoid arthritis, says Kremer, head of rheumatology at

Albany Medical College in New York. In a recent Belgian study, about

half of a group of rheumatoid arthritis patients taking fish oil were

able to cut their doses of painkillers.

Just eating fish also can stifle inflammation. Swiss investigators

measured cellular changes and concluded that four to six meals of

fish each week equaled the benefits of therapeutic doses of fish oil.

A daily dose of 3,000-5,000 milligrams of omega-3's (about 10-17

capsules) is generally effective, producing noticeable benefits in

three months, Kremer finds. Studies also show you're not as apt to

develop the condition if you eat a lot of fish.

Specific vegetable oils (black currant, evening primrose, flaxseed,

borage seed) counter inflammation, but they are less potent than fish

oil.

OILS TO AVOID. Eating good fat is not enough; it's imperative also to

cut down on " bad " fat that incites the production and accumulation of

inflammatory chemicals in joints. Villains that trigger inflammation

are omega-6 fats - especially corn oil, regular safflower and

sunflower oil, plus products made with those oils - and saturated

animal fat in dairy products and meat.

VEGETABLES ARE VITAL. Norwegian research found that switching to a

vegetarian diet (also excluding milk and eggs) lessened arthritis

pain and other symptoms in 90 percent of subjects. Researchers credit

eliminating meat fat, but also suspect fruits and vegetables have

undefined benefits.

SPICE SECRETS. Likewise, spices such as turmeric, cloves and ginger

have proven anti-inflammatory activity. Danish research found that

daily cooking with fresh ginger root (about 1 teaspoon, chopped) or

eating powdered ginger (less than 1 teaspoon a day) helps relieve

symptoms in some people. Be cautious if you are on anticoagulants:

Ginger thins the blood.

A MILK PITFALL (AND OTHERS). Eating the wrong foods over time could

trigger a delayed and chronic allergic reaction, provoking arthritis

symptoms. Some say the chances are no more than 5 percent. But a 1991

British study found specific foods provoked arthritic symptoms in

more than half of a group of patients. Most common culprits: dairy

products, corn and wheat. Researchers have induced signs of

inflammation by simply feeding patients milk, and some patients have

controlled arthritis by avoiding dairy foods. In a 1985 Israeli

study, women who gave up milk had a 50 percent reduction in symptoms.

VITAMIN E AID. This antioxidant is a strong anti-inflammatory, says

Mahadev Murthy, Ph.D., of the Nutraceutical Network of Canada. Also,

when you consume lots of fish or fish oil, you need extra vitamin E

for proper immune functioning, say Tufts University researchers. The

daily dosage: 400 IU vitamin E.

Go to top

Osteoarthritis

This disintegration of cartilage and other tissue in joints affects

16 million Americans, most over age 60. The same advice about eating

fish oil and avoiding omega-6 fats applies. In addition, take stock

of:

Vitamins D and C. They seem to slow osteoarthritis, says E.

McAlindon, a rheumatologist at Boston University Medical Center. In

his study last year of 556 elderly people, those with above-average

vitamin D were least likely to have early knee arthritis advance to

debilitating damage in eight years. The protective dose: at least 400

IU daily. McAlindon theorizes vitamin D works directly on bones to

preserve joint flexibility and shock absorption. Caution: Vitamin D

can build up in the liver and could become toxic at daily doses over

2,000 IU.

Getting lots of vitamin C also thwarted the progress of

osteoarthritis, McAlindon notes. Probable reason: Vitamin C helps

repair and build collagen, the main ingredient of cartilage. The best

vitamin C dose is not clear; the study suggests adding an extra

orange a day could help. EXCESS WEIGHT. Being overweight can induce

osteoarthritis. One study found that overweight middle-aged women who

shed 5 kilos (11 pounds) had half the risk of later knee

osteoarthritis. B VITAMINS. At the University of Missouri,

researchers substituted high doses of folic acid and B12 for

prescription painkillers. Those taking 6,400 micrograms folic acid

plus 20 micrograms vitamin B12 had fewer tender joints than when

taking prescription drugs.

If you have arthritis . . .

DO EAT four to six fish meals a week, especially salmon, sardines,

mackerel, albacore tuna and herring. Eat lots of vegetables and

spices such as ginger. Celery seed eases gout, a form of arthritis,

according to one expert.

COOK WITH olive and canola oils. Supplement diet with fish-oil

capsules.

AVOID corn oil, regular safflower and sunflower oil; avoid

margarines, salad dressings and mayonnaises made with those oils.

Drop or severely restrict meat. Avoid wheat, corn and dairy products

if you suspect they aggravate your arthritis.

GLUCOSAMINE and other nutritional supplements are urged in the best

seller The Arthritis Cure. Research shows they may spur regrowth of

cartilage, ease symptoms, even reverse osteoarthritis.

NIGHTSHADES (tomatoes, eggplant, bell peppers, white potatoes) are

blamed by some for causing arthritis flare-ups. There's no research

to support the idea, but there's no harm in avoiding the foods, if

you find it helpful.

>

> My apologies for questions not relating directly to rosacea. I'm

> interested in learning more about gamma-Linoleic Acid and albacore

> tuna fish, and since both are advocated in healthy skin care and

are

> used by some posters, I hope the moderators will let this post

squeak

> through.

>

> I read something like the article on gamma-Linoleic Acid on

> FatsForHealth.com

> (http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library/libitems/omega6.php3) and my

> gut response is, " OK, but what's the downside, and how do we

> understand GLA in its proper context? " Does anyone have a more

> balanced online reference of the benefits AND RISKS of using GLA?

> (I'm not thinking about liver toxicity with Borage Oil, but GLA in

> particular.)

>

> One obvious " OK, but... " comes to mind: it makes sense to me to

that

> screwing around with part of the prostagladin cascade is likely to

> throw other portions into disarray. Can this truly be re-balanced

by

> taking supplemental omega-3 oils like flaxseed or fish oil? If so,

> how does one determine the proper balance? Can eating fish several

> times a week truly supplement as well as flaxseed or fish oil?

>

> Regarding omega-3, I've become a recent fan of the new pouch

albacore

> tuna from Bumble Bee and StarKist, which to me tastes so much

better

> than canned tuna. I was wondering if a 3 oz serving of the pouch

tuna

> would provide enough EPA and DHA, which I assume are the important

> omega-3 oils. Or, do I need to purchase a product like Dave's Tuna

> Fish (http://www.davesalbacore.com/), a well publicized product on

> the Web, which is waaay expensive. The commercial brands pack their

> tuna pouch in vegetable oil, which I gather is one of the bad oils.

> Am I defeating the health purpose by eating Bumble Bee over

something

> like Dave's? (And is that photo of Dave on his home page meant to

> comfort a future customer, or what? )

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Hi Marjorie,

This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack of

Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea

puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for

months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little

improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was

taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's:

Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and Linoleic

Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are

derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and

GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of

LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So,

supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the derivative

level.

I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2

EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA.

So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed oil

for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement

in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin

less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2

weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily

flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since I

started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy and

overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive.

I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr. Johanna

Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr.

Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2

Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage cheese.

The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the cottage

cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better

assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times a

day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's.

I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the cottage

cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground

sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a

ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA).

So far so good.

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Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but

that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so

that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some

researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance

in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased.

Is your understanding different?

I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see

effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine.

I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of

these basic questions within the next year or three.

Thanks again,

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

> Hi Marjorie,

>

> This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack

of

> Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea

> puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for

> months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little

> improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was

> taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's:

> Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and

Linoleic

> Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are

> derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and

> GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of

> LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So,

> supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the

derivative

> level.

>

> I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2

> EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA.

> So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed

oil

> for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement

> in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin

> less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2

> weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily

> flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since

I

> started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy

and

> overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive.

>

> I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr.

Johanna

> Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr.

> Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2

> Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage

cheese.

> The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the

cottage

> cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better

> assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times

a

> day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's.

>

> I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the

cottage

> cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground

> sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a

> ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA).

>

> So far so good.

>

>

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Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but

that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so

that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some

researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance

in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased.

Is your understanding different?

I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see

effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine.

I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of

these basic questions within the next year or three.

Thanks again,

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

> Hi Marjorie,

>

> This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack

of

> Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea

> puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for

> months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little

> improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was

> taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's:

> Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and

Linoleic

> Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are

> derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and

> GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of

> LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So,

> supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the

derivative

> level.

>

> I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2

> EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA.

> So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed

oil

> for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement

> in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin

> less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2

> weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily

> flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since

I

> started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy

and

> overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive.

>

> I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr.

Johanna

> Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr.

> Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2

> Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage

cheese.

> The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the

cottage

> cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better

> assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times

a

> day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's.

>

> I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the

cottage

> cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground

> sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a

> ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA).

>

> So far so good.

>

>

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Thanks, . I thought the problem wasn't deficiency in EFAs, but

that there are people who have problems converting EFAs into GLA, so

that's specifically the supplement that's needed. But some

researchers believe that just supplementing GLA creates an imbalance

in the prostaglandin cascade unless the omega-3s are also increased.

Is your understanding different?

I've read that supplementing with GLA takes up to 6 months to see

effects, so your months of ineffectiveness may be routine.

I hear there are a couple of large trials that may answer many of

these basic questions within the next year or three.

Thanks again,

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

> Hi Marjorie,

>

> This is a subject I have recently been studying. I believe a lack

of

> Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) in the diet is part of the cea

> puzzle. For year's I supplemented with fish oils (EPA/DHA) and for

> months took Oil of Evening Primrose (GLA). I saw very little

> improvement. I had thought that by taking these oils that I was

> taking EFA's. I now know different. There are only 2 EFA's:

> Linolenic Acid (LNA) which is part of the Omega 3 family and

Linoleic

> Acid (LA) which is part of the Omega 6 family. EPA/DHA are

> derivative fatty acids (but not " essential " fatty acids) of LNA and

> GLA is a derivative fatty acid (but not " essential " fatty acid) of

> LA. The body can make the derivatives from EFA's. So,

> supplementation can take place at the EFA level, or at the

derivative

> level.

>

> I am now supplementing at the EFA level. The best source for the 2

> EFA's is Flaxseed. It has a ratio of approximatly 4:1 of LNA:LA.

> So, I have been supplementing my diet with flaxseed and flaxseed

oil

> for a couple of weeks now and I have seen a significant improvement

> in all aspects of my cea, but especially it is making my skin

> less dry, which in turn I think helps me flush less (these past 2

> weeks I have hardly flushed at all, after 26 years of daily

> flushing). As well, my nose has not become swollen even once since

I

> started with flaxseed. My pores are looking smaller, less greasy

and

> overall, my skin is feeling greatly relieved and less reactive.

>

> I use the method of taking flaxseed oil as recommended by Dr.

Johanna

> Budwig. Udo Erasmus in his book Fats and Oils also recommends Dr.

> Budwig's method of taking EFA's. It is simply to mix a ratio of 2

> Tbs of Flaxseed oil with 1/4 cup of low fat dry curd cottage

cheese.

> The reasoning being that by mixing the flaxseed oil with the

cottage

> cheese (a sulpherated protein), this makes the flaxseed oil better

> assimilated in the body. This mixture can be taken multiple times

a

> day if necessary, depending on how deficient the person is in EFA's.

>

> I am currently taking 4 Tbs flaxseed oil with 1/2 cup of the

cottage

> cheese each day, as well as also eating ground flaxseed and ground

> sesame seeds (sesame seeds are high in Omega 6 fatty acids with a

> ratio of approximately 1:38 of LNA:LA).

>

> So far so good.

>

>

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