Re: [MiniGastricBypass]Pigging Out before Surgery

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/28/2000 11:47:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

florence@... writes:

<< I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

and I will be forever grateful.

Flo in land >>

Beautifully put Flo, I too hope to be able to know what it's like not to have

food control me rather I will have control. I have been on dozens and dozens

of diets, did the Optifast thing, liquids for 12 weeks and the very minute I

started back on the small amounts of food that they start you on to allow

your body to adjust, the weight I had lost started coming back immediately. I

lost 43 lbs. in 12 weeks on 400 calories a day of their liquids, I probably

gained it all back in 8 weeks, that is when I truly realized that diets were

never going to work for me, anyway sorry for rambling I just wanted to

compliment you on your post!

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In a message dated 6/28/2000 11:47:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

florence@... writes:

<< I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

and I will be forever grateful.

Flo in land >>

Beautifully put Flo, I too hope to be able to know what it's like not to have

food control me rather I will have control. I have been on dozens and dozens

of diets, did the Optifast thing, liquids for 12 weeks and the very minute I

started back on the small amounts of food that they start you on to allow

your body to adjust, the weight I had lost started coming back immediately. I

lost 43 lbs. in 12 weeks on 400 calories a day of their liquids, I probably

gained it all back in 8 weeks, that is when I truly realized that diets were

never going to work for me, anyway sorry for rambling I just wanted to

compliment you on your post!

[Guest guest]

, I asked Dr. R at clinic about eating a lot before surgery and he

said it is better if you eat a lite last meal because something about the

intestines being distended and harder to figure out the six feet or something

like that. But you can E-mail him or ask him at clinic. I ate lite because my

friend said she ate real heavy and got sick after her surgery and puked in

the hospital and that was the last thing I wanted after being cut on. Hope

this helps.

P. S. Congrats to all you July pre-ops were all praying for everyone.

[Guest guest]

, I asked Dr. R at clinic about eating a lot before surgery and he

said it is better if you eat a lite last meal because something about the

intestines being distended and harder to figure out the six feet or something

like that. But you can E-mail him or ask him at clinic. I ate lite because my

friend said she ate real heavy and got sick after her surgery and puked in

the hospital and that was the last thing I wanted after being cut on. Hope

this helps.

P. S. Congrats to all you July pre-ops were all praying for everyone.

[Guest guest]

Okay Guys,

We haven't gotten this far yet (pre-op instructions and all) but I was

thinking that your bowels should be empty so that all the lovely contents

don't spill into the abdomen when opened up. I guess I thought you would

have to fast for 24 hrs and then do the bowel-blasting- enema- business.

Surgery surely has gone and gotten modern on me!

:0) Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

In a message dated 6/28/00 10:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

florence@... writes:

<< :

I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

rooting you on!

Flo

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[Guest guest]

Okay Guys,

We haven't gotten this far yet (pre-op instructions and all) but I was

thinking that your bowels should be empty so that all the lovely contents

don't spill into the abdomen when opened up. I guess I thought you would

have to fast for 24 hrs and then do the bowel-blasting- enema- business.

Surgery surely has gone and gotten modern on me!

:0) Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

In a message dated 6/28/00 10:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

florence@... writes:

<< :

I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

rooting you on!

Flo

------------------------------------------------------------------------

0% Introductory APR!

Ins >>

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In a message dated 6/28/00 11:22:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

est945@... writes:

<< , I asked Dr. R at clinic about eating a lot before surgery and he

said it is better if you eat a lite last meal because something about the

intestines being distended and harder to figure out the six feet or

something

like that. >>

Yikes! If they are too distended (stretched) then you will probably not get

the whole 6 feet! Think about it, if they are " shriveled " and tight (no

food) you might get a bit more taken! LOL I vote for eating lightly!!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/28/00 11:22:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

est945@... writes:

<< , I asked Dr. R at clinic about eating a lot before surgery and he

said it is better if you eat a lite last meal because something about the

intestines being distended and harder to figure out the six feet or

something

like that. >>

Yikes! If they are too distended (stretched) then you will probably not get

the whole 6 feet! Think about it, if they are " shriveled " and tight (no

food) you might get a bit more taken! LOL I vote for eating lightly!!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

[Guest guest]

Susie G. wrote:

Think I should start dieting today

> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

> got me here LOLOLO

I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

lot of my time.

I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

bread and butter..the staff of life.

I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

me have.

I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

desire appears to have gone bye bye.

One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

case, I thought.

The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

will only let me have a little of it.

I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

and I will be forever grateful.

Flo in land

[Guest guest]

Susie G. wrote:

Think I should start dieting today

> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

> got me here LOLOLO

I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

lot of my time.

I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

bread and butter..the staff of life.

I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

me have.

I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

desire appears to have gone bye bye.

One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

case, I thought.

The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

will only let me have a little of it.

I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

and I will be forever grateful.

Flo in land

[Guest guest]

Susie G. wrote:

Think I should start dieting today

> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

> got me here LOLOLO

I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

lot of my time.

I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

bread and butter..the staff of life.

I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

me have.

I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

desire appears to have gone bye bye.

One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

case, I thought.

The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

will only let me have a little of it.

I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

and I will be forever grateful.

Flo in land

[Guest guest]

WELL SAID FLO !!!

in SC

Wanting to start a new life

with the help of MGBsurgery by Dr. R

If you see someone without a smile,

Give them one of yours.

If you and I should meet and

you forget me, you have lost nothing.

If you meet JESUS and you forget him,

you will have lost everything.

[Guest guest]

WELL SAID FLO !!!

in SC

Wanting to start a new life

with the help of MGBsurgery by Dr. R

If you see someone without a smile,

Give them one of yours.

If you and I should meet and

you forget me, you have lost nothing.

If you meet JESUS and you forget him,

you will have lost everything.

[Guest guest]

Dear Flo,

I am glad to see that someone else has some control

issues...LOL. I am also seeing something else. I just wonder if it

is true or not. If you eat well the night before surgery doesn't it

outline your upper intestine a lot better? Then Dr. R knows to go 6-

8 ft. This is probably not true. Just an observation of people who

eat or not eat before surgery. I am going to try and be a little

safer and eat on Monday, and try and go easy on Tuesday. But like

you said, you were never able to diet before, why start before

surgery? I think now everytime I drive by a Kentucky Fried Chicken

that my 'uncle', the late Colonel , is calling me. Even my 4

year old sees the sign and says, " Mommy, Look! " Then he says,

" ....want some Chicken? "

18 days and counting....I will also be glad when this obsession

is gone. BTW...I finished my CPR class last night. Monday night

when I went I had to play a 'victim'. The instructor was walking

towards me to see if my partner could find my carotid pulse. He was

telling her, I don't think you will be able to find her pulse very

well because she is.... " he stopped, and then said, " Oh, I see it

beating from here. " I hope to never have to finish a sentence in my

head for anyone again as I knew the next word was going to be obese,

overweight or fat.

Still patiently waiting for my 'date'(July 19th) with Dr. R. and to

meet my new sisters: Joyce, , Kim and Dena.

Love,

>

> Think I should start dieting today

> > !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats

what

> > got me here LOLOLO

>

> I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

> person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured

if I

> could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

>

> I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before

surgery.

> I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again

" just

> one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

> away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

> baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza

for a

> pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took

up a

> lot of my time.

>

> I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces

of

> bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery

either.

> It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room

for

> bread and butter..the staff of life.

>

> I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again.

Despite

> what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I

knew

> it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

>

> At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth

and

> on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am

relieved to

> find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want,

whenever I

> want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't

want

> it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured

out

> very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy

will let

> me have.

>

> I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the

only

> thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening

during

> which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat

only

> the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I

previously

> loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take

in

> that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to

myself in

> the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and

my

> desire appears to have gone bye bye.

>

> One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never

succeeded

> at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away

for

> a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We

went

> to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save

money

> and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all

weekend.

> They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they

had

> and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like

a

> pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a

hopeless

> case, I thought.

>

> The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive.

And I

> was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every

other

> portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

> control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the

obsession is

> gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham

and

> home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

> something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my

stomach

> will only let me have a little of it.

>

> I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not

depressed

> because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a

miracle

> and I will be forever grateful.

>

> Flo in land

[Guest guest]

Dear Flo,

I am glad to see that someone else has some control

issues...LOL. I am also seeing something else. I just wonder if it

is true or not. If you eat well the night before surgery doesn't it

outline your upper intestine a lot better? Then Dr. R knows to go 6-

8 ft. This is probably not true. Just an observation of people who

eat or not eat before surgery. I am going to try and be a little

safer and eat on Monday, and try and go easy on Tuesday. But like

you said, you were never able to diet before, why start before

surgery? I think now everytime I drive by a Kentucky Fried Chicken

that my 'uncle', the late Colonel , is calling me. Even my 4

year old sees the sign and says, " Mommy, Look! " Then he says,

" ....want some Chicken? "

18 days and counting....I will also be glad when this obsession

is gone. BTW...I finished my CPR class last night. Monday night

when I went I had to play a 'victim'. The instructor was walking

towards me to see if my partner could find my carotid pulse. He was

telling her, I don't think you will be able to find her pulse very

well because she is.... " he stopped, and then said, " Oh, I see it

beating from here. " I hope to never have to finish a sentence in my

head for anyone again as I knew the next word was going to be obese,

overweight or fat.

Still patiently waiting for my 'date'(July 19th) with Dr. R. and to

meet my new sisters: Joyce, , Kim and Dena.

Love,

>

> Think I should start dieting today

> > !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats

what

> > got me here LOLOLO

>

> I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

> person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured

if I

> could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

>

> I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before

surgery.

> I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again

" just

> one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

> away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

> baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza

for a

> pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took

up a

> lot of my time.

>

> I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces

of

> bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery

either.

> It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room

for

> bread and butter..the staff of life.

>

> I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again.

Despite

> what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I

knew

> it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

>

> At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth

and

> on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am

relieved to

> find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want,

whenever I

> want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't

want

> it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured

out

> very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy

will let

> me have.

>

> I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the

only

> thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening

during

> which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat

only

> the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I

previously

> loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take

in

> that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to

myself in

> the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and

my

> desire appears to have gone bye bye.

>

> One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never

succeeded

> at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away

for

> a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We

went

> to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save

money

> and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all

weekend.

> They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they

had

> and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like

a

> pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a

hopeless

> case, I thought.

>

> The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive.

And I

> was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every

other

> portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

> control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the

obsession is

> gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham

and

> home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

> something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my

stomach

> will only let me have a little of it.

>

> I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not

depressed

> because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a

miracle

> and I will be forever grateful.

>

> Flo in land

[Guest guest]

:

I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

rooting you on!

Flo

[Guest guest]

:

I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

rooting you on!

Flo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/28/00 2:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DebLaMan@...

writes:

<< (no

food) you might get a bit more taken! LOL >>

That is what Dr. R told me when I asked him. I flat out asked him which was

better, and easier for him! He said go light on the food the day before!

Just a thought.

Tonni

4/10/00

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/28/00 2:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DebLaMan@...

writes:

<< (no

food) you might get a bit more taken! LOL >>

That is what Dr. R told me when I asked him. I flat out asked him which was

better, and easier for him! He said go light on the food the day before!

Just a thought.

Tonni

4/10/00

[Guest guest]

Dear Flo,

Hey I didn't read anything about 'medical stuff' either. It was

just a theory...LOL. That is funny what you said about if Dr. R

didn't want you to eat a lot he should have been there. Hmmmm...if

he is going to show up for me he better bring a big sledge hammer and

knock me out. The only time I don't eat is when I sleep...sigh.

Soon I will be like my melting mommy and the Colonel will just let me

have some soupy mashed potatoes in a little while. Or maybe I will

just curl up my nose and say, " Ewww I don't eat that stuff anymore. "

Well, I better go. My hands are swelling, (Gee, could it have been

those salty Mc's fries last night?) nahhhh.

Take care and I hope you continually get better and that my little

sis Drema will once again want to have the MGB.

Love,

> :

>

> I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff.

Medical

> stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't

see

> how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before

surgery

> because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't

want

> me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me

not

> to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory

is

> that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then

my

> intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

>

> Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

> says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes

naked? LOL

>

> It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

> rooting you on!

>

> Flo

[Guest guest]

Flo,

Bless you for your post!! I hope and pray that one day soon I can sit in

your seat and say that I am no longer obsessed with food. Like you,

everything in my life seems managable but food. I look forward to one day

viewing food as only fuel for my body. Keep up the great work!

Terri in ville, NC

At 12:01 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Susie G. wrote:

>

>Think I should start dieting today

>> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

>> got me here LOLOLO

>

>I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

>person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

>could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

>

>I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

>I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

>one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

>away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

>baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

>pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

>lot of my time.

>

>I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

>bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

>It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

>bread and butter..the staff of life.

>

>I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

>what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

>it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

>

>At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

>on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

>find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

>want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

>it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

>very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

>me have.

>

>I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

>thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

>which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

>the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

>loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

>that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

>the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

>desire appears to have gone bye bye.

>

>One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

>at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

>a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

>to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

>and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

>They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

>and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

>pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

>case, I thought.

>

>The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

>was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

>portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

>control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

>gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

>home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

>something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

>will only let me have a little of it.

>

>I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

>because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

>and I will be forever grateful.

>

>Flo in land

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Flo,

Bless you for your post!! I hope and pray that one day soon I can sit in

your seat and say that I am no longer obsessed with food. Like you,

everything in my life seems managable but food. I look forward to one day

viewing food as only fuel for my body. Keep up the great work!

Terri in ville, NC

At 12:01 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Susie G. wrote:

>

>Think I should start dieting today

>> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

>> got me here LOLOLO

>

>I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

>person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

>could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

>

>I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

>I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

>one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

>away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

>baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

>pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

>lot of my time.

>

>I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

>bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

>It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

>bread and butter..the staff of life.

>

>I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

>what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

>it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

>

>At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

>on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

>find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

>want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

>it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

>very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

>me have.

>

>I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

>thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

>which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

>the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

>loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

>that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

>the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

>desire appears to have gone bye bye.

>

>One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

>at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

>a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

>to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

>and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

>They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

>and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

>pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

>case, I thought.

>

>The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

>was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

>portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

>control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

>gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

>home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

>something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

>will only let me have a little of it.

>

>I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

>because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

>and I will be forever grateful.

>

>Flo in land

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Flo,

Bless you for your post!! I hope and pray that one day soon I can sit in

your seat and say that I am no longer obsessed with food. Like you,

everything in my life seems managable but food. I look forward to one day

viewing food as only fuel for my body. Keep up the great work!

Terri in ville, NC

At 12:01 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Susie G. wrote:

>

>Think I should start dieting today

>> !?!?!? Can't tell if I am asking or telling. But I guess thats what

>> got me here LOLOLO

>

>I didn't diet before surgery. But of course, I was not a very large

>person going into this..304..that's all. Petite, right? I figured if I

>could diet I wouldn't need surgery.

>

>I'm not ashamed to say that I ate like a pig for a month before surgery.

>I considered making a list of foods that I wanted to have again " just

>one more time " but alas, I put off making the list and time slipped

>away. Didn't have time to make the list, I was too busy cooking and

>baking and going to restaurants. The three trips to Ledo's Pizza for a

>pizza with pre-cooked bacon (I swear they put a pound on it) took up a

>lot of my time.

>

>I don't regret that I did that. I have no regrets over the 6 pieces of

>bread and butter I ate at Sorrento the night before my surgery either.

>It was good. Darned if I was going to eat salad and have no room for

>bread and butter..the staff of life.

>

>I believed at the time that I would never eat good things again. Despite

>what everyone on the list told me, I was convinced that life as I knew

>it was over. (sob). And it sure was but in a very good way.

>

>At 57, I have spent 50 years worrying about what went into my mouth and

>on my hips. I am so relieved that those days are over. I am relieved to

>find after one month post-op that I can have whatever I want, whenever I

>want...if my teeny tiny tummy will hold it. And silly me, I don't want

>it. I am still mostly on liquids and soft foods. I haven't ventured out

>very far. But I can if I want. I can have whatever my new tummy will let

>me have.

>

>I don't know about any of the rest of you but this surgery is the only

>thing separating me from food. I had no great spiritual awakening during

>which a wonderful thing happened which would make me want to eat only

>the most healthy things forever and despise all the things I previously

>loved. I had surgery that so drastically limited what I could take in

>that I can't help but lose weight in spite of whatever I do to myself in

>the food arena. Fortunately, my capacity is very very small...and my

>desire appears to have gone bye bye.

>

>One of the emotions I always felt and the chief reason I never succeeded

>at dieting is deprivation. I always felt deprived. I once went away for

>a weekend with a group of women. Six of us joined WW together. We went

>to a women's club convention and took our meals with us (to save money

>and to stay on the diet). We ate exactly the same things all weekend.

>They lost weight, I gained weight. I felt deprived. I had what they had

>and I gained. And I wanted more...lots more..but I'd have felt like a

>pig. That set up the psychology of hopelessness in me...I was a hopeless

>case, I thought.

>

>The point of all of this is that overeating is self destructive. And I

>was powerless to do anything about that. I had control over every other

>portion of my life but food. This surgery has enabled me to be in

>control of that portion of my life too. The insanity of the obsession is

>gone. I seem to have lost the obsession somewhere between Durham and

>home. It is gone. I no longer feel deprived because if I want

>something, I can have it and I won't gain weight. Because my stomach

>will only let me have a little of it.

>

>I am not depressed because I am not deprived. And I am not depressed

>because the obsession to seek the perfect bite is gone. What a miracle

>and I will be forever grateful.

>

>Flo in land

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Some advice on this subject. Have your last supper 2 days before surgery.

Rexanne was at clinic (showing herself off and very nicely I might add) the

same day I was there. She advised us pre-ops to eat yogurt the night before

surgery. I did this and I think it helped me. I had never eaten yogurt

before. I did not have any problems after surgery, I heard some complain of

having a yeast infection. This can be caused by antibiotics and we do get

powerful antibiotics to reduce the chance of infection. I think it helped

and it doesn't hurt. So, thanks Rexanne for the advice.

Darlene

DebLaMan@... wrote:

> Okay Guys,

> We haven't gotten this far yet (pre-op instructions and all) but I was

> thinking that your bowels should be empty so that all the lovely contents

> don't spill into the abdomen when opened up. I guess I thought you would

> have to fast for 24 hrs and then do the bowel-blasting- enema- business.

> Surgery surely has gone and gotten modern on me!

>

> :0) Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

>

> In a message dated 6/28/00 10:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> florence@... writes:

>

> << :

>

> I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

> stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

> how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

> because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

> me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

> to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

> that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

> intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

>

> Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

> says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

>

> It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

> rooting you on!

>

> Flo

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Some advice on this subject. Have your last supper 2 days before surgery.

Rexanne was at clinic (showing herself off and very nicely I might add) the

same day I was there. She advised us pre-ops to eat yogurt the night before

surgery. I did this and I think it helped me. I had never eaten yogurt

before. I did not have any problems after surgery, I heard some complain of

having a yeast infection. This can be caused by antibiotics and we do get

powerful antibiotics to reduce the chance of infection. I think it helped

and it doesn't hurt. So, thanks Rexanne for the advice.

Darlene

DebLaMan@... wrote:

> Okay Guys,

> We haven't gotten this far yet (pre-op instructions and all) but I was

> thinking that your bowels should be empty so that all the lovely contents

> don't spill into the abdomen when opened up. I guess I thought you would

> have to fast for 24 hrs and then do the bowel-blasting- enema- business.

> Surgery surely has gone and gotten modern on me!

>

> :0) Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

>

> In a message dated 6/28/00 10:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> florence@... writes:

>

> << :

>

> I didn't read the medical stuff. I don't like medical stuff. Medical

> stuff is Dr. R's area. Crime is my area of expertise and I didn't see

> how that could help me with the surgery. So I ate lots before surgery

> because that's what I do..eat lots. And I figured if Dr. R didn't want

> me to eat lots, he'd have showed up at the restaurant and told me not

> to. LOL. Perhaps the reason I have done so well under your theory is

> that if you eat a lot your intestines are well outlined...well then my

> intestines were very well outlined. LOL.

>

> Your uncle, the Colonel also calls me..well he did..now he just

> says...Flo, Flo dear, want a half an order of mashed potatoes naked? LOL

>

> It won't be much longer . I'm here in the cheering section

> rooting you on!

>

> Flo

>

>

>

>

>

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