Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Traci's doctor swears by the antibacterial hand sanitizers with alcohol. Even more than the antibacterial soap. They are known to carry PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Traci's doctor swears by the antibacterial hand sanitizers with alcohol. Even more than the antibacterial soap. They are known to carry PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Traci's doctor swears by the antibacterial hand sanitizers with alcohol. Even more than the antibacterial soap. They are known to carry PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 I buy hand lotion's with antibacterial in it...plus smells nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2002 Report Share Posted October 27, 2002 purell and www.purell.com microsan are two brands http://www.globalbio.com/Msan.htm http://www.nixalite.com/micanti.htm http://mpdirect.com/products/microsan/microsan.html Re: Hand sanitizer & antibacterial hand wipes > Hi, > > from some recent messages about the use of antibacterial soap I guess > that some don't remember the article anymore, that started the whole > discussion. So here it is again. > > If someone who uses an alcohol gel could verify that PA is explicit > mentioned as a bug that will be killed through the gel, that would be > much appreciated. Or at least give us a brand and a homepage so that > we can ask the company. > > Peace > Torsten > > > Hospitals Abandoning Soap and Water > > By DANIEL Q. HANEY, AP Medical Editor > Sun Sep 29, 2:19 AM ET > > SAN DIEGO - Soap and water may be all washed up. Many hospitals > are switching to quick-drying alcohol gels to keep hands clean > as evidence builds they stop dangerous germs faster and better. > > The spread of microbes in hospitals is a huge health problem, > making sick people sicker and resulting in an estimated 20,000 > deaths in the United States each year. One of the chief ways > germs spread is on the hands of nurses, doctors, technicians and > others who move from patient to patient. > > While hospital workers are routinely urged to wash up between > patients, a thorough job can take a full minute, results in dry > skin and is often skipped to save time, especially in hectic > intensive care wards where the risk can be greatest. > > The latest research, presented Saturday at a meeting of the > American Society for Microbiology, suggests the alcohol-based > rinses are surprisingly effective at cutting hospital germs, > since they are much quicker, require no water or sink and kill > more microbes. > > " You go up to a dispenser, go " click! " and it's there. The time > saving is amazing. It's something people actually do use rather > than walking by the sink, " said Dr. Barbara Murray of the > University of Texas at Houston. > > Over the past two years, some hospitals have installed alcohol > gel dispensers beside every bed, and many more are planning to > switch. New guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and > Prevention, to be released later this fall, are expected to > recommend hospitals use the alcohol gels exclusively except when > workers hands are visibly soiled. > > " This will represent a revolution in hand hygiene, " said nurse > Elaine Larson, associate dean for research at Columbia > University. " No longer is the best way to clean your hands > washing them. Can you imagine telling surgeons you no longer > need to scrub? This is news, and it's very exciting. " > > The alcohol rinses, available as foam, gel or lotion, are simple > to use: Pour a dime-size blob on one palm, then rub the hands > together until it dries, which takes about 15 seconds. The > solutions also contain moisturizers, so they do not dry the > skin. Identical products are available in grocery stores. > > " One of the real barriers to hand hygiene is how busy health > care workers are, " said Dr. Hooper of Massachusetts > General Hospital. " The ability to very rapidly kill bacteria on > your hands is a great advantage. " > > Researchers at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in > Washington D.C. measured the effects of switching to the alcohol > rinses two years ago. Dispensers were put in all patient rooms > and outpatient clinics. > > New cases of drug-resistant staph infections decreased 21 > percent, while resistant enterococcus dropped 43 percent. Both > of these are serious, hospital-acquired infections. > > Among the first to study the gel's advantages was Dr. Didier > Pittet of the University of Geneva Hospitals in Switzerland. > Four years of use there cut hospital-spread infections in half. > > Some hospitals have been reluctant to adopt the new cleaners > because they cost more than soap. However, a new analysis by > Pittet suggests they actually save money because they reduce > infections, which are expensive to treat. > > At his hospital, he found the gels cost an extra $1.62 for each > patient admitted, or $82,000 per year. But between 1999 and > 2001, they save more than $12 million in treatment costs. > > Many brands are available. The solutions contain between 60 > percent and 90 percent alcohol and are thought to be equally > effective in killing viruses and bacteria. They are also being > tested in school bathrooms and child care centers, among other places. > > Larson said she does not recommend replacing ordinary soap in > the home. However, the alcohol rubs could be helpful if people > are traveling and cannot wash, have sick children or care for > people with weakened immune systems. > ___ > > EDITOR'S NOTE: Medical Editor Q. Haney is a special > correspondent for The Associated Press. > > > > > > > Traci's doctor swears by the antibacterial hand sanitizers > > with alcohol. Even > > > more than the antibacterial soap. They are known to carry PA. > > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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