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Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way or the

other. There may be a return of hypersensitivity or inflammation

(including redness from inflammation) when antibiotics are withdrawn,

but that's the loss of anti-inflammatory action.

cea takes years, decades to progress, not days. Short term

changes are exacerbations and remission, not progression, but what

you're describing doesn't even qualify as an exacerbation. Be patient

with yourself these days, as you're likely more attentive to your

skin and getting used to your new diagnosis.

You're right, caring for your skin is not going to make it worse.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> Has anyone ever studied Metrocream to make sure there's no re-

bound

> effect to using it?

>

> In case I have the wrong term, I'm talking about when you take a

> medication, then it wears off, and your symptomes return WORSE than

> before. I believe this happens with some nasal sprays used for the

> stuffiness of a common cold, for example.

>

> The reason I ask is that I'm wondering if that's what happened to

me.

> I used the cream pretty much as directed (except only once a day,

not

> twice) for several days, and I did notice that when I got out the

> shower my face wasn't flushed. Cool. :) Except, the flushing never

> really bothered ME; it's my optometrist who wants me to use this

> stuff.

>

> Anyway, one day I forget to use it, and next day when I take my

> shower, I'm flushing alright--but worse than before I ever touched

> the stuff!

>

> It seems unlikely to me and way too much of a coincidence that my

> rosecea had progressed that much in such a short time, especially

> since rather than ignoring it (which is supposed to make it

progress)

> I'd recently starting TREATING IT!

>

> I can't help thinking that a natural approach makes more sense for

> someone like me who has very mild symptoms. When & if it begins to

> bother me, THEN I could see the point in treating it.

>

> But at this point, might I be creating a dependence on a drug I

don't

> even really need?

>

> What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else noticed this re-

bound

> effect also?

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on 5/3/02 2:19 PM, barefootjan at barefootjan@... wrote:

Hi jan,

I had to jump in here...

> I have to ask, is Metrocreme an antibiotic? Because that's the only

> thing I use, and I had no idea it was an antibiotic creme! I wonder

> if I could use bacitracin or neosporin instead?

Yes, it's a topical antibiotic. Bacitracin and neosporin contain petroleum

which you might find cause your face to get red. It also might be too

occlusive, but you could experiment with a light application to see. Why

would you put it on though instead of a moisturizer? If you need a

moisturizer...if your skin is oily you may not need one.

> You said " You're right, caring for your skin is not going to make it

> worse. " Since I believe I was better off before I used the creme,

> that would make me wrong, not right, according to you.

Metrocream bothered me also. After a while it started to burn my skin, cause

redness (when I had none) and cause (more) bumps. The derm I was seeing

INSISTED that metrocream could never do this. But I have since found out

that all three products contain some things like alcohols that can be very

irritating. It is my understanding that the metro's really are meant to

treat the acne component of rosacea. I stopped the metrocream, changed my

diet and a few other things and my skin went back to " normal. "

> At this point, I simply don't see how putting products on my skin for

> no good reason could be considered " caring for it. " Of course, I

> could be wrong...That's what I'm trying to find out!

My personal approach is to do no harm to my skin, that is my goal. Putting

products on my face simply because it is in accord with some skincare or

dermatologic theory I have found can be detrimental. " caring for your skin "

could mean rinsing with water. You know your skin best.

> As for being more attentive, I'd agree with you, (it occured to me

> too) except even my husband said the same thing. He'd never seen my

> face so flushed before.

>

> You wrote " There may be a return of hypersensitivity or inflammation

> (including redness from inflammation) when antibiotics are withdrawn,

> but that's the loss of anti-inflammatory action. " This was not the

> RETURN of my previous mild flushing, it was worse. Not horribly

> worse, but noticibly so. To both of us.

It could be that the cream has been irritating you skin and now things that

didn't used to irritate, are. That could be why you are more red than

before. I'm just throwing out logical possibilities for you...!

> But again, I freely acknowledge that we could both be wrong. That's

> what I'm trying to figure out here.

>

> Keep in mind that I am not bothered by my rosecea symptoms. It seems

> to me, therefore, that I am using drugs UNNECESSARILY. To make an

> analogy, people with mild hayfever don't run out and take

> antihystamines (sp?) when they can manage just fine without them. If

> at some point down the line their symptoms warrant it, then they seek

> treatment.

>

> I wasn't seeking treatment for my skin. I had an eye problem.

> Having me use the creme now for something that MIGHT get worse at

> some unknown future date seems like major paranoia to me.

For whatever it may be worth to you, I totally agree! especially if you only

flush sometimes, and out of the shower....lots of people get a little pink

just out of the shower. It could be the chlorine in you water irritating

you. It could be that you need to run cooler water. If my shower water is

too hot, I will flush...when I keep it cooler I could stay in there for an

hour and I wouldn't flush. I have learned never to stand with my head right

under the showerhead (I keep my face out from under it) if not my face would

get at least a bit blotchy....done this ever since I was a kid. For most of

my life I've had really excellent skin, just very fair.

> And in fact you seem to make my point for me when you write " cea

> takes years, decades to progress, not days. " And " Short term changes

> are exacerbations and remission, not progression, but what you're

> describing doesn't even qualify as an exacerbation. "

> In other words, I have extremely mild symptoms, so it seems I'm a

> long way off from needing to do ANYTHING. Perhaps there is no one

> here who can relate to that, because the rest of the people like me

> AREN'T being treated, and therefore wouldn't even be at a message

> board such as this one.

Although it's likely antibiotics may not be the answer for you, I would

think you should check around and notice more closely when you flush. You

will likely begin to make connections and can thereby reduce or even stop

the flushing.

> One thing I wholeheartedly agree with: I am getting used to a new

> diagnosis. A couple of them, actually. Which is why I am asking

> questions, not just making rash (haha!) decisions. I know how

> fortunate I am to have the luxury of time to investigate further; for

> sure if I had some of the symptoms I've heard described here I'd be

> running to the drugstore for whatever they could give me!

>

> So far I haven't heard anything to suggest that a natural approach

> wouldn't be best FOR ME. I'm certainly not suggesting that those who

> need it don't seek treatment.

There are lots of other ways to treat or control rosacea than antibiotics or

presription meds....especially when it's mild to moderate it seems. I think

if you stick around here you'll get a lot of great information on diet,

lifestyle changes, natural products you could use on your skin if you feel

you need a better cleanser, lotion or whatever. And most of all I just

really want to encourage your desire to going with the approach that YOU

feel makes the most sense for you. There is no " right " way to treat rosacea,

if I have learned anything at all!

All the best,

> Thanks for hearing me out,

> Jan

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on 5/3/02 2:19 PM, barefootjan at barefootjan@... wrote:

Hi jan,

I had to jump in here...

> I have to ask, is Metrocreme an antibiotic? Because that's the only

> thing I use, and I had no idea it was an antibiotic creme! I wonder

> if I could use bacitracin or neosporin instead?

Yes, it's a topical antibiotic. Bacitracin and neosporin contain petroleum

which you might find cause your face to get red. It also might be too

occlusive, but you could experiment with a light application to see. Why

would you put it on though instead of a moisturizer? If you need a

moisturizer...if your skin is oily you may not need one.

> You said " You're right, caring for your skin is not going to make it

> worse. " Since I believe I was better off before I used the creme,

> that would make me wrong, not right, according to you.

Metrocream bothered me also. After a while it started to burn my skin, cause

redness (when I had none) and cause (more) bumps. The derm I was seeing

INSISTED that metrocream could never do this. But I have since found out

that all three products contain some things like alcohols that can be very

irritating. It is my understanding that the metro's really are meant to

treat the acne component of rosacea. I stopped the metrocream, changed my

diet and a few other things and my skin went back to " normal. "

> At this point, I simply don't see how putting products on my skin for

> no good reason could be considered " caring for it. " Of course, I

> could be wrong...That's what I'm trying to find out!

My personal approach is to do no harm to my skin, that is my goal. Putting

products on my face simply because it is in accord with some skincare or

dermatologic theory I have found can be detrimental. " caring for your skin "

could mean rinsing with water. You know your skin best.

> As for being more attentive, I'd agree with you, (it occured to me

> too) except even my husband said the same thing. He'd never seen my

> face so flushed before.

>

> You wrote " There may be a return of hypersensitivity or inflammation

> (including redness from inflammation) when antibiotics are withdrawn,

> but that's the loss of anti-inflammatory action. " This was not the

> RETURN of my previous mild flushing, it was worse. Not horribly

> worse, but noticibly so. To both of us.

It could be that the cream has been irritating you skin and now things that

didn't used to irritate, are. That could be why you are more red than

before. I'm just throwing out logical possibilities for you...!

> But again, I freely acknowledge that we could both be wrong. That's

> what I'm trying to figure out here.

>

> Keep in mind that I am not bothered by my rosecea symptoms. It seems

> to me, therefore, that I am using drugs UNNECESSARILY. To make an

> analogy, people with mild hayfever don't run out and take

> antihystamines (sp?) when they can manage just fine without them. If

> at some point down the line their symptoms warrant it, then they seek

> treatment.

>

> I wasn't seeking treatment for my skin. I had an eye problem.

> Having me use the creme now for something that MIGHT get worse at

> some unknown future date seems like major paranoia to me.

For whatever it may be worth to you, I totally agree! especially if you only

flush sometimes, and out of the shower....lots of people get a little pink

just out of the shower. It could be the chlorine in you water irritating

you. It could be that you need to run cooler water. If my shower water is

too hot, I will flush...when I keep it cooler I could stay in there for an

hour and I wouldn't flush. I have learned never to stand with my head right

under the showerhead (I keep my face out from under it) if not my face would

get at least a bit blotchy....done this ever since I was a kid. For most of

my life I've had really excellent skin, just very fair.

> And in fact you seem to make my point for me when you write " cea

> takes years, decades to progress, not days. " And " Short term changes

> are exacerbations and remission, not progression, but what you're

> describing doesn't even qualify as an exacerbation. "

> In other words, I have extremely mild symptoms, so it seems I'm a

> long way off from needing to do ANYTHING. Perhaps there is no one

> here who can relate to that, because the rest of the people like me

> AREN'T being treated, and therefore wouldn't even be at a message

> board such as this one.

Although it's likely antibiotics may not be the answer for you, I would

think you should check around and notice more closely when you flush. You

will likely begin to make connections and can thereby reduce or even stop

the flushing.

> One thing I wholeheartedly agree with: I am getting used to a new

> diagnosis. A couple of them, actually. Which is why I am asking

> questions, not just making rash (haha!) decisions. I know how

> fortunate I am to have the luxury of time to investigate further; for

> sure if I had some of the symptoms I've heard described here I'd be

> running to the drugstore for whatever they could give me!

>

> So far I haven't heard anything to suggest that a natural approach

> wouldn't be best FOR ME. I'm certainly not suggesting that those who

> need it don't seek treatment.

There are lots of other ways to treat or control rosacea than antibiotics or

presription meds....especially when it's mild to moderate it seems. I think

if you stick around here you'll get a lot of great information on diet,

lifestyle changes, natural products you could use on your skin if you feel

you need a better cleanser, lotion or whatever. And most of all I just

really want to encourage your desire to going with the approach that YOU

feel makes the most sense for you. There is no " right " way to treat rosacea,

if I have learned anything at all!

All the best,

> Thanks for hearing me out,

> Jan

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on 5/3/02 2:19 PM, barefootjan at barefootjan@... wrote:

Hi jan,

I had to jump in here...

> I have to ask, is Metrocreme an antibiotic? Because that's the only

> thing I use, and I had no idea it was an antibiotic creme! I wonder

> if I could use bacitracin or neosporin instead?

Yes, it's a topical antibiotic. Bacitracin and neosporin contain petroleum

which you might find cause your face to get red. It also might be too

occlusive, but you could experiment with a light application to see. Why

would you put it on though instead of a moisturizer? If you need a

moisturizer...if your skin is oily you may not need one.

> You said " You're right, caring for your skin is not going to make it

> worse. " Since I believe I was better off before I used the creme,

> that would make me wrong, not right, according to you.

Metrocream bothered me also. After a while it started to burn my skin, cause

redness (when I had none) and cause (more) bumps. The derm I was seeing

INSISTED that metrocream could never do this. But I have since found out

that all three products contain some things like alcohols that can be very

irritating. It is my understanding that the metro's really are meant to

treat the acne component of rosacea. I stopped the metrocream, changed my

diet and a few other things and my skin went back to " normal. "

> At this point, I simply don't see how putting products on my skin for

> no good reason could be considered " caring for it. " Of course, I

> could be wrong...That's what I'm trying to find out!

My personal approach is to do no harm to my skin, that is my goal. Putting

products on my face simply because it is in accord with some skincare or

dermatologic theory I have found can be detrimental. " caring for your skin "

could mean rinsing with water. You know your skin best.

> As for being more attentive, I'd agree with you, (it occured to me

> too) except even my husband said the same thing. He'd never seen my

> face so flushed before.

>

> You wrote " There may be a return of hypersensitivity or inflammation

> (including redness from inflammation) when antibiotics are withdrawn,

> but that's the loss of anti-inflammatory action. " This was not the

> RETURN of my previous mild flushing, it was worse. Not horribly

> worse, but noticibly so. To both of us.

It could be that the cream has been irritating you skin and now things that

didn't used to irritate, are. That could be why you are more red than

before. I'm just throwing out logical possibilities for you...!

> But again, I freely acknowledge that we could both be wrong. That's

> what I'm trying to figure out here.

>

> Keep in mind that I am not bothered by my rosecea symptoms. It seems

> to me, therefore, that I am using drugs UNNECESSARILY. To make an

> analogy, people with mild hayfever don't run out and take

> antihystamines (sp?) when they can manage just fine without them. If

> at some point down the line their symptoms warrant it, then they seek

> treatment.

>

> I wasn't seeking treatment for my skin. I had an eye problem.

> Having me use the creme now for something that MIGHT get worse at

> some unknown future date seems like major paranoia to me.

For whatever it may be worth to you, I totally agree! especially if you only

flush sometimes, and out of the shower....lots of people get a little pink

just out of the shower. It could be the chlorine in you water irritating

you. It could be that you need to run cooler water. If my shower water is

too hot, I will flush...when I keep it cooler I could stay in there for an

hour and I wouldn't flush. I have learned never to stand with my head right

under the showerhead (I keep my face out from under it) if not my face would

get at least a bit blotchy....done this ever since I was a kid. For most of

my life I've had really excellent skin, just very fair.

> And in fact you seem to make my point for me when you write " cea

> takes years, decades to progress, not days. " And " Short term changes

> are exacerbations and remission, not progression, but what you're

> describing doesn't even qualify as an exacerbation. "

> In other words, I have extremely mild symptoms, so it seems I'm a

> long way off from needing to do ANYTHING. Perhaps there is no one

> here who can relate to that, because the rest of the people like me

> AREN'T being treated, and therefore wouldn't even be at a message

> board such as this one.

Although it's likely antibiotics may not be the answer for you, I would

think you should check around and notice more closely when you flush. You

will likely begin to make connections and can thereby reduce or even stop

the flushing.

> One thing I wholeheartedly agree with: I am getting used to a new

> diagnosis. A couple of them, actually. Which is why I am asking

> questions, not just making rash (haha!) decisions. I know how

> fortunate I am to have the luxury of time to investigate further; for

> sure if I had some of the symptoms I've heard described here I'd be

> running to the drugstore for whatever they could give me!

>

> So far I haven't heard anything to suggest that a natural approach

> wouldn't be best FOR ME. I'm certainly not suggesting that those who

> need it don't seek treatment.

There are lots of other ways to treat or control rosacea than antibiotics or

presription meds....especially when it's mild to moderate it seems. I think

if you stick around here you'll get a lot of great information on diet,

lifestyle changes, natural products you could use on your skin if you feel

you need a better cleanser, lotion or whatever. And most of all I just

really want to encourage your desire to going with the approach that YOU

feel makes the most sense for you. There is no " right " way to treat rosacea,

if I have learned anything at all!

All the best,

> Thanks for hearing me out,

> Jan

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> Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way or the

> other. >>>>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

>

> that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms at a

major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says that

antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all patients). i

wonder...

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> Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way or the

> other. >>>>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

>

> that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms at a

major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says that

antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all patients). i

wonder...

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Via no known mechanism except many a general anit-inflammatory

mechanism, while on minocycline 100 mg bid, I note less episodes of

rosacea pattern flushing.

though, I do note much less flushing from Accutane 5/mg compared to

minocycline.

of course, ultimate results are achieved with a combination of the

above.

> > > Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way or

> the

> > > other. >>>>

> > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >

> > >

> > > that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms at

a

> > major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says that

> > antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all patients). i

> > wonder...

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I know this wasn't intended for me but I just want to add my input-

The doctor who gave me the Metrocream (which I'm told is an

antibiotic) only knew that I had the little broken blood vessels next

to my nose, the funny-colored nose changes, and some flushing

(because I'd just taken a shower before my appointment).

He was unaware of the little painless blisters ( " pustules " ??) because

I had none at the time, and he never asked if I got them.

So besides my own experience with the cream, I can't imagine he

prescribed it for anything BUT the flushing. (It doesn't make the

blood vessels disappear, does it?)

If you guys don't mind another stupid question, what's so bad about

flushing anyway?

~Jan

> > > Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way or

> the

> > > other. >>>>

> > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >

> > >

> > > that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms at

a

> > major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says that

> > antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all patients). i

> > wonder...

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" In my opinion, you should be discussing and

> planning out your care strategy with a dermatologist who will

follow

> you over your lifetime, not strangers in cyberspace. "

What's the point of this group if not to discuss rosecea? LOL!

I'm interested in people's personal or first-hand knowledge and

experiences, and explainations of the more complicated medical stuff

in words that I can actually understand! And for the most part that's

exactly what I've gotten! Where's the harm in that?

People here have said things that backed the docs up and things that

backed me up. Through that kind of back & forth discussion I can

clarify in my mind what's important and relevant to me.

Also, I've received support and encouragement that doctors can't

provide.

I think like most people I'm extremely reluctant to go against my

doctor's wishes. In fact I won't do it unless I'm very sure I know

the consequences of my decision and I'm willing to accept them.

I just think that I'll be a lot more prepared for a meaningful

discussion with the doctor once I've sorted-out my own thoughts. I'm

very grateful there are places like this that can help!

BTW, I have seen a medical doctor about my face, not for rosecea but

because I'd started to get what I think are called " liver spots " and

I wanted to know what's considered normal aging and what isn't. So I

wouldn't ignore something potentially cancerous.

The medical doctor told me, " Well, you have a little redness around

your nose (I was probably a bit flushed at the time and didn't know

it), and she told me she could refer me to the dermatologist for

something to put on that, but she stated quite clearly that it would

be for COSMETIC REASONS ONLY. I wasn't interested in that, and anyway

my insurance would never cover it...they cover MEDICALLY NECESSARY

visits only.

I'll have to call my prescription plan to see if prescribed

medications have to be medically necessary as well. That should be

interesting. :)

Meanwhile, can anyone tell me if there's any reliable evidence that

shows that treating rosecea at any stage will slow it's

progression...and how would they be able to determine something like

that?

Thanks again for all your input! :)

~Jan

> > I have to ask, is Metrocreme an antibiotic? Because that's the

only

> > thing I use, and I had no idea it was an antibiotic creme! I

wonder

> > if I could use bacitracin or neosporin instead?

> >

> > You said " You're right, caring for your skin is not going to make

> it

> > worse. " Since I believe I was better off before I used the creme,

> > that would make me wrong, not right, according to you.

> >

> > At this point, I simply don't see how putting products on my skin

> for

> > no good reason could be considered " caring for it. " Of course, I

> > could be wrong...That's what I'm trying to find out!

> >

> > As for being more attentive, I'd agree with you, (it occured to

me

> > too) except even my husband said the same thing. He'd never seen

my

> > face so flushed before.

> >

> > You wrote " There may be a return of hypersensitivity or

> inflammation

> > (including redness from inflammation) when antibiotics are

> withdrawn,

> > but that's the loss of anti-inflammatory action. " This was not

the

> > RETURN of my previous mild flushing, it was worse. Not horribly

> > worse, but noticibly so. To both of us.

> >

> > But again, I freely acknowledge that we could both be wrong.

That's

> > what I'm trying to figure out here.

> >

> > Keep in mind that I am not bothered by my rosecea symptoms. It

> seems

> > to me, therefore, that I am using drugs UNNECESSARILY. To make an

> > analogy, people with mild hayfever don't run out and take

> > antihystamines (sp?) when they can manage just fine without them.

> If

> > at some point down the line their symptoms warrant it, then they

> seek

> > treatment.

> >

> > I wasn't seeking treatment for my skin. I had an eye problem.

> > Having me use the creme now for something that MIGHT get worse at

> > some unknown future date seems like major paranoia to me.

> >

> > And in fact you seem to make my point for me when you

> write " cea

> > takes years, decades to progress, not days. " And " Short term

> changes

> > are exacerbations and remission, not progression, but what you're

> > describing doesn't even qualify as an exacerbation. "

> >

> > In other words, I have extremely mild symptoms, so it seems I'm a

> > long way off from needing to do ANYTHING. Perhaps there is no one

> > here who can relate to that, because the rest of the people like

me

> > AREN'T being treated, and therefore wouldn't even be at a message

> > board such as this one.

> >

> > One thing I wholeheartedly agree with: I am getting used to a new

> > diagnosis. A couple of them, actually. Which is why I am asking

> > questions, not just making rash (haha!) decisions. I know how

> > fortunate I am to have the luxury of time to investigate further;

> for

> > sure if I had some of the symptoms I've heard described here I'd

be

> > running to the drugstore for whatever they could give me!

> >

> > So far I haven't heard anything to suggest that a natural

approach

> > wouldn't be best FOR ME. I'm certainly not suggesting that those

> who

> > need it don't seek treatment.

> >

> > Thanks for hearing me out,

> > Jan

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oh no, what's so bad about flushing.. everything! first, flushing is

cosmetically unappealing. your skin should all be the same colour

throughout. second, flushing over time causes angiogenesis, which

leads to greater flushing, and flushing precedes an immunological

cascade leading to inflammatory lesions and a worsening of the

severity of your rosacea.

> > > > Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one way

or

> > the

> > > > other. >>>>

> > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms

at

> a

> > > major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says

that

> > > antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all patients).

i

> > > wonder...

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I want to thank " doubleoh7 " for the explaination Re: what flushing

can lead to. I had no idea!

Anyway, the verdict is in: My eye doc said that I do NOT, I repeat,

do NOT, have to use the Metrocream.

He said it was prescribed to stop the FLUSHING.

He said, left untreated, rosecea can affect the eyes, but he said the

most important thing I can do for my eyes at this point, besides

using the Muro ointment, is to use the hot compresses.

I don't have use the Metrocream if I don't want to.

Not that I'm happy about that or anything! ;-)

If I ever start to think that it might be worthwhile to put something

on my face, it's nice to know the cream (or something like it) is

available. That I have options!

Meanwhile, I think I'll continue looking into the natural methods of

reducing or preventing symptoms. THAT I don't really have a problem

with.

Man I am one lucky son of a gun! :)

Thanks to everyone who responded! And sorry it takes so long for

me to grasp these things--I don't think I was ALWAYS such a dim

bulb...can't remember for sure though....

> > > > > Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one

way

> or

> > > the

> > > > > other. >>>>

> > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms

> at

> > a

> > > > major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says

> that

> > > > antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all

patients).

> i

> > > > wonder...

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I want to thank " doubleoh7 " for the explaination Re: what flushing

can lead to. I had no idea!

Anyway, the verdict is in: My eye doc said that I do NOT, I repeat,

do NOT, have to use the Metrocream.

He said it was prescribed to stop the FLUSHING.

He said, left untreated, rosecea can affect the eyes, but he said the

most important thing I can do for my eyes at this point, besides

using the Muro ointment, is to use the hot compresses.

I don't have use the Metrocream if I don't want to.

Not that I'm happy about that or anything! ;-)

If I ever start to think that it might be worthwhile to put something

on my face, it's nice to know the cream (or something like it) is

available. That I have options!

Meanwhile, I think I'll continue looking into the natural methods of

reducing or preventing symptoms. THAT I don't really have a problem

with.

Man I am one lucky son of a gun! :)

Thanks to everyone who responded! And sorry it takes so long for

me to grasp these things--I don't think I was ALWAYS such a dim

bulb...can't remember for sure though....

> > > > > Jan, I don't believe the antibiotics change flushing one

way

> or

> > > the

> > > > > other. >>>>

> > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > that's strange because my derm, who's one of the head derms

> at

> > a

> > > > major hospital here (and is quite excellent i must say) says

> that

> > > > antibiotics WILL help with flushing (But not in all

patients).

> i

> > > > wonder...

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