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Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

>

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Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

>

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Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

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Jeni Lynn,

I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your own method for

intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't even pass bm's for over 3

years of his life. As long as there is extreme leaky gut, the immune system will

keep flagging all those foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful

for us by using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they are

a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with two versions, if

you like, then start with a couple foods you know your child is not sensitive

too, that have some calories, etc. Introducing things slowly includes

supplements, so if you introduce Brainchild, do it before going back to intro,

otherwise, if your child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you

go, think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But, you can

come up with something.

I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it is an

excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it for so long, it is

essential predigested. I can post a recipe later, if interested. I have to get

going right now.

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

Jeni Lynn,

I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

Start with those.

Suzanne

> Knopp wrote:

> Hey guys!

>

> I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

(minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

not get fantastic results).

> If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

>

> Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

>

> Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

>

> Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> SCD 3 weeks

> mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> SCD 3 months

> Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

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Jeni Lynn,

I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your own method for

intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't even pass bm's for over 3

years of his life. As long as there is extreme leaky gut, the immune system will

keep flagging all those foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful

for us by using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they are

a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with two versions, if

you like, then start with a couple foods you know your child is not sensitive

too, that have some calories, etc. Introducing things slowly includes

supplements, so if you introduce Brainchild, do it before going back to intro,

otherwise, if your child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you

go, think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But, you can

come up with something.

I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it is an

excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it for so long, it is

essential predigested. I can post a recipe later, if interested. I have to get

going right now.

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

Jeni Lynn,

I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

Start with those.

Suzanne

> Knopp wrote:

> Hey guys!

>

> I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

(minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

not get fantastic results).

> If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

>

> Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

>

> Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

>

> Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> SCD 3 weeks

> mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> SCD 3 months

> Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

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Jeni Lynn,

I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your own method for

intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't even pass bm's for over 3

years of his life. As long as there is extreme leaky gut, the immune system will

keep flagging all those foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful

for us by using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they are

a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with two versions, if

you like, then start with a couple foods you know your child is not sensitive

too, that have some calories, etc. Introducing things slowly includes

supplements, so if you introduce Brainchild, do it before going back to intro,

otherwise, if your child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you

go, think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But, you can

come up with something.

I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it is an

excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it for so long, it is

essential predigested. I can post a recipe later, if interested. I have to get

going right now.

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

Jeni Lynn,

I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

Start with those.

Suzanne

> Knopp wrote:

> Hey guys!

>

> I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

(minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

not get fantastic results).

> If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

>

> Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

>

> Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

>

> Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> SCD 3 weeks

> mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> SCD 3 months

> Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

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Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

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Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

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Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

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Pulled from the CSA site for New York:

http://attra.ncat.org

I only did one region, wester NY.You can search for others. If you talk to any

farmers, ask if they have a co-op of know of one.

Pride of New York

Search Results of Member List

Here are the businesses which offer Meat Products in the Western Region .

BUSINESS NAME & ADDRESS PHONE, FAX,

EMAIL & WEBSITE PRODUCT, DATES, & QUANTITY OPTIONS

---------------------------------

Beechwood Farm, Inc.

Suroviec,

1721 Bush Road

Clymer, NY 14724

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Product: Organic Beef, Veal, Pork, & Lamb

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Blossom Hill Farm

Drajem, Jo El

9419 Rte. 62

Gowanda, NY 14070

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: belle72@...

Product: Lowline Angus Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Product: Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Drew's Indian Acres Maple Farm

Drew, Kim

2005 Broadway Rd.

Darien, NY 14040

Genesee County

Phone:

Product: Mini Lop Rabbits

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Dudley Poultry Co., Inc.

,

910 Rte 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jacksontm@...

Website: www.dudleypoultry.com Product: Fresh & Frozen Poultry, Beef & Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Finger Lakes Gourmet

,

910 Rte. 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: service@...

Website: www.fingerlakesgourmet.com Product: Gourmet Beef, Pork, & Bison -

Corporate Gifts & Meat Gift Combos

Dates: Year Round

Click on web link for prices

---------------------------------

Hanzlian's Homemade Sausage Company

Hanzlian,

198 Courtland Avenue

Buffalo, NY 14215

Erie County

Phone:

Email: sausageguys@...

Website: www.sausageguys.com Product: Italian, Polish, & Breakfast Sausage

- ( Pork & Chicken)

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Hartmann's Old World Sausage

Brunner,

1256 N. Clinton Ave.

Rochester, NY 14621

Monroe County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: hartmanns@...

Product: Fresh, Cooked, & Smoked Sausage - Smoked Meats, Liverwurst, &

Cold Cuts

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Indian Valley Stock Farm

Swiler, Elaine

4157 County Rte. 21

Cameron, NY 14819

Steuben County

Phone:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Farms, Inc.

, Fay

8637 Rte. 36 N

Arkport, NY 14807

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jenkins@...

Product: Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

JRB Foods, Inc.

Barton,

15921 Ed Rose Shores

Kent, NY 14477

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jrbmagicsauce@...

Product: " Uncle Ralph's Pulled Pork "

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Lake Country Premium

Hartway,

4524 Mix Rd.

Albion, NY 14411

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

New York Natural Beef ative

Umlauf,

7118 Boston Cross Road

Boston, NY 14025

Erie County

Phone:

Product: Beef - Frozen Cuts, Fresh Primals, Ground, Gourmet Patties,

Sausage, & Hot Dogs

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Poplar Hill Farm

Hamm, Dennis & Kimber

129 Mayo Road

Lindley, NY 14858

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: PHFHAMM@...

Product: Goat Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Upstate Farms ative, Inc.

Young, Bill

7115 W. Main St.

LeRoy, NY 14482

Genesee County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: byoung@...

Website: www.upstatefarmscoop.com Product: Bison

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Valley Ranch

Witt,

4859 Rte.60

Gerry, NY 14740

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Email: valleyranch5@...

Website: www.valleyranchgoats.com Product: USDA Retail Cuts & Whole Goats -

Value Added Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

---------------------------------

Village Smokehouse, LLC. , The

Babcock,

264 Union Street

Hamburg, NY 14075

Erie County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Fresh Exotic Game

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Product: Fresh Certified Angus Beef, USDA Prime Beef,

KOBE(WAGYU) Beef - Full Line of Smoked Meats

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Wild Acres

Wild, & Sharon

PO Box 7, 5963 Rt. 98

Great Valley, NY 14741

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: dsmamas@...

Product: Beef Cattle - Natural Finished Beef - Qtrs. & Halves

Dates: October - December

Call for prices State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Beef Farms

, & Bernadette

10751 Hess Rd.

Canaseraga, NY 14822

Allegany County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: wilsonbeef@...

Website: www.wilsonbeeffarms.com Product: Natural Beef Frozen From Our Farm

to Your Freezer-Individual Cuts, Variety Boxes, & Sides

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices State Vouchers,

---------------------------------

Product: Jerky - Regular, Jerky Teriyaki, Hot, & BBQ -

Snack Sticks - Regular, Spicy, & Snackaroni

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote:

Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

>

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Pulled from the CSA site for New York:

http://attra.ncat.org

I only did one region, wester NY.You can search for others. If you talk to any

farmers, ask if they have a co-op of know of one.

Pride of New York

Search Results of Member List

Here are the businesses which offer Meat Products in the Western Region .

BUSINESS NAME & ADDRESS PHONE, FAX,

EMAIL & WEBSITE PRODUCT, DATES, & QUANTITY OPTIONS

---------------------------------

Beechwood Farm, Inc.

Suroviec,

1721 Bush Road

Clymer, NY 14724

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Product: Organic Beef, Veal, Pork, & Lamb

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Blossom Hill Farm

Drajem, Jo El

9419 Rte. 62

Gowanda, NY 14070

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: belle72@...

Product: Lowline Angus Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Product: Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Drew's Indian Acres Maple Farm

Drew, Kim

2005 Broadway Rd.

Darien, NY 14040

Genesee County

Phone:

Product: Mini Lop Rabbits

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Dudley Poultry Co., Inc.

,

910 Rte 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jacksontm@...

Website: www.dudleypoultry.com Product: Fresh & Frozen Poultry, Beef & Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Finger Lakes Gourmet

,

910 Rte. 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: service@...

Website: www.fingerlakesgourmet.com Product: Gourmet Beef, Pork, & Bison -

Corporate Gifts & Meat Gift Combos

Dates: Year Round

Click on web link for prices

---------------------------------

Hanzlian's Homemade Sausage Company

Hanzlian,

198 Courtland Avenue

Buffalo, NY 14215

Erie County

Phone:

Email: sausageguys@...

Website: www.sausageguys.com Product: Italian, Polish, & Breakfast Sausage

- ( Pork & Chicken)

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Hartmann's Old World Sausage

Brunner,

1256 N. Clinton Ave.

Rochester, NY 14621

Monroe County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: hartmanns@...

Product: Fresh, Cooked, & Smoked Sausage - Smoked Meats, Liverwurst, &

Cold Cuts

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Indian Valley Stock Farm

Swiler, Elaine

4157 County Rte. 21

Cameron, NY 14819

Steuben County

Phone:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Farms, Inc.

, Fay

8637 Rte. 36 N

Arkport, NY 14807

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jenkins@...

Product: Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

JRB Foods, Inc.

Barton,

15921 Ed Rose Shores

Kent, NY 14477

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jrbmagicsauce@...

Product: " Uncle Ralph's Pulled Pork "

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Lake Country Premium

Hartway,

4524 Mix Rd.

Albion, NY 14411

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

New York Natural Beef ative

Umlauf,

7118 Boston Cross Road

Boston, NY 14025

Erie County

Phone:

Product: Beef - Frozen Cuts, Fresh Primals, Ground, Gourmet Patties,

Sausage, & Hot Dogs

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Poplar Hill Farm

Hamm, Dennis & Kimber

129 Mayo Road

Lindley, NY 14858

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: PHFHAMM@...

Product: Goat Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Upstate Farms ative, Inc.

Young, Bill

7115 W. Main St.

LeRoy, NY 14482

Genesee County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: byoung@...

Website: www.upstatefarmscoop.com Product: Bison

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Valley Ranch

Witt,

4859 Rte.60

Gerry, NY 14740

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Email: valleyranch5@...

Website: www.valleyranchgoats.com Product: USDA Retail Cuts & Whole Goats -

Value Added Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

---------------------------------

Village Smokehouse, LLC. , The

Babcock,

264 Union Street

Hamburg, NY 14075

Erie County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Fresh Exotic Game

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Product: Fresh Certified Angus Beef, USDA Prime Beef,

KOBE(WAGYU) Beef - Full Line of Smoked Meats

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Wild Acres

Wild, & Sharon

PO Box 7, 5963 Rt. 98

Great Valley, NY 14741

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: dsmamas@...

Product: Beef Cattle - Natural Finished Beef - Qtrs. & Halves

Dates: October - December

Call for prices State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Beef Farms

, & Bernadette

10751 Hess Rd.

Canaseraga, NY 14822

Allegany County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: wilsonbeef@...

Website: www.wilsonbeeffarms.com Product: Natural Beef Frozen From Our Farm

to Your Freezer-Individual Cuts, Variety Boxes, & Sides

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices State Vouchers,

---------------------------------

Product: Jerky - Regular, Jerky Teriyaki, Hot, & BBQ -

Snack Sticks - Regular, Spicy, & Snackaroni

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote:

Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

>

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Pulled from the CSA site for New York:

http://attra.ncat.org

I only did one region, wester NY.You can search for others. If you talk to any

farmers, ask if they have a co-op of know of one.

Pride of New York

Search Results of Member List

Here are the businesses which offer Meat Products in the Western Region .

BUSINESS NAME & ADDRESS PHONE, FAX,

EMAIL & WEBSITE PRODUCT, DATES, & QUANTITY OPTIONS

---------------------------------

Beechwood Farm, Inc.

Suroviec,

1721 Bush Road

Clymer, NY 14724

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Product: Organic Beef, Veal, Pork, & Lamb

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Blossom Hill Farm

Drajem, Jo El

9419 Rte. 62

Gowanda, NY 14070

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: belle72@...

Product: Lowline Angus Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Product: Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Drew's Indian Acres Maple Farm

Drew, Kim

2005 Broadway Rd.

Darien, NY 14040

Genesee County

Phone:

Product: Mini Lop Rabbits

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Dudley Poultry Co., Inc.

,

910 Rte 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jacksontm@...

Website: www.dudleypoultry.com Product: Fresh & Frozen Poultry, Beef & Pork

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Finger Lakes Gourmet

,

910 Rte. 245 - PO Box 37

Middlesex, NY 14507

Yates County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: service@...

Website: www.fingerlakesgourmet.com Product: Gourmet Beef, Pork, & Bison -

Corporate Gifts & Meat Gift Combos

Dates: Year Round

Click on web link for prices

---------------------------------

Hanzlian's Homemade Sausage Company

Hanzlian,

198 Courtland Avenue

Buffalo, NY 14215

Erie County

Phone:

Email: sausageguys@...

Website: www.sausageguys.com Product: Italian, Polish, & Breakfast Sausage

- ( Pork & Chicken)

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Hartmann's Old World Sausage

Brunner,

1256 N. Clinton Ave.

Rochester, NY 14621

Monroe County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: hartmanns@...

Product: Fresh, Cooked, & Smoked Sausage - Smoked Meats, Liverwurst, &

Cold Cuts

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Indian Valley Stock Farm

Swiler, Elaine

4157 County Rte. 21

Cameron, NY 14819

Steuben County

Phone:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Farms, Inc.

, Fay

8637 Rte. 36 N

Arkport, NY 14807

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jenkins@...

Product: Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

JRB Foods, Inc.

Barton,

15921 Ed Rose Shores

Kent, NY 14477

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: jrbmagicsauce@...

Product: " Uncle Ralph's Pulled Pork "

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Lake Country Premium

Hartway,

4524 Mix Rd.

Albion, NY 14411

Orleans County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Beef

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

New York Natural Beef ative

Umlauf,

7118 Boston Cross Road

Boston, NY 14025

Erie County

Phone:

Product: Beef - Frozen Cuts, Fresh Primals, Ground, Gourmet Patties,

Sausage, & Hot Dogs

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Poplar Hill Farm

Hamm, Dennis & Kimber

129 Mayo Road

Lindley, NY 14858

Steuben County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: PHFHAMM@...

Product: Goat Meat Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Upstate Farms ative, Inc.

Young, Bill

7115 W. Main St.

LeRoy, NY 14482

Genesee County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: byoung@...

Website: www.upstatefarmscoop.com Product: Bison

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Valley Ranch

Witt,

4859 Rte.60

Gerry, NY 14740

Chautauqua County

Phone:

Email: valleyranch5@...

Website: www.valleyranchgoats.com Product: USDA Retail Cuts & Whole Goats -

Value Added Products

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

---------------------------------

Village Smokehouse, LLC. , The

Babcock,

264 Union Street

Hamburg, NY 14075

Erie County

Phone:

Fax:

Product: Fresh Exotic Game

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices Volume Discounts,

State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Product: Fresh Certified Angus Beef, USDA Prime Beef,

KOBE(WAGYU) Beef - Full Line of Smoked Meats

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Wild Acres

Wild, & Sharon

PO Box 7, 5963 Rt. 98

Great Valley, NY 14741

Cattaraugus County

Phone:

Email: dsmamas@...

Product: Beef Cattle - Natural Finished Beef - Qtrs. & Halves

Dates: October - December

Call for prices State Vouchers,

Will Deliver,

---------------------------------

Beef Farms

, & Bernadette

10751 Hess Rd.

Canaseraga, NY 14822

Allegany County

Phone:

Fax:

Email: wilsonbeef@...

Website: www.wilsonbeeffarms.com Product: Natural Beef Frozen From Our Farm

to Your Freezer-Individual Cuts, Variety Boxes, & Sides

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices State Vouchers,

---------------------------------

Product: Jerky - Regular, Jerky Teriyaki, Hot, & BBQ -

Snack Sticks - Regular, Spicy, & Snackaroni

Dates: Year Round

Call for prices

---------------------------------

Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote:

Lamb is great. I don't know any specifics about Whole Foods Lamb, someone else

will have to answer that one, but have you checked into co-ops and CSA's in your

area and surrounding area? Co-oping farms will often, like mine, sell meat from

their own farm freezers. A co-op may be a way to go. They are often very hard to

find, as they have usually have no advertisement, just a word of mouth thing

going.

Summer

Knopp jlknopp@...> wrote:

Does lamb sound like a good meat to start with? I am confident that all my

children do OK with lamb and buffalo. For the researching people . . I am

trying to do this as chemical free as possible. Is the ground lamb and ground

buffalo at Whole Foods adequate? I am unable to get pasture-fed

antibiotic/steriod free ground lamb from the local farmers at this time of year.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 3 weeks

Re: Intro diet

> This is what happens with a leaky gut.

>

> Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> because of being eaten more frequently.

>

> The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

get

> the high IgG response.

>

> But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

the

> true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

reintroduced

> once healing has taken place.

>

> Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

multiple food

> sensitivities.

>

> :)

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicioushttp://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious>

cycle.info/>

> and

>

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/http://www.pecanbread.com

ttp://www.pecanbread.com/>>

>

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Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Is it just cooking extra long (chicken soup)?

I bought beef soup bones and going to try a beef soup version of the chicken

soup in BVC.

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

Kai SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

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Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:29 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Re: leaky gut question

Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Is it just cooking extra long (chicken soup)?

I bought beef soup bones and going to try a beef soup version of the chicken

soup in BVC.

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

Kai SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:29 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Re: leaky gut question

Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Is it just cooking extra long (chicken soup)?

I bought beef soup bones and going to try a beef soup version of the chicken

soup in BVC.

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

Kai SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:29 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Re: leaky gut question

Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I throw them

into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water, and 1/4 cup apple

cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will also work here). I bring to

a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or however long. This will weaken the bones

and the joints. Then I let the bones cool.

I snap open all the bones..for the larger ones, I remove the joint caps and

cartilage, and I scrape the marrow out with a nut scraper. I return all this

goodness to the stock pot, and bring to a boil and then simmer for another 6-8

hours at least...but preferably all day. When done, I strain out the bones and

marrow, and add any meat broth or meat stock/soup stock I desire. Then prepare

as a soup and serve. It contains completely absorbable minerals from the bone

marrow, in perfect proportions, ready for immediate absorption, can bypass the

leaky gut situation easily.

If a child is having a very hard time digesting vegetables, I will even throw

in some, especially shitake mushrooms, to cook for a very long time. The longer

they cook, the more digested into the broth they become. If tolerated, one may

do this with ginger, garlic, onion, carrots, celery, parsley. Yes, the vitamins

will be killed off, but there will be these wonderful minerals and pre-digested

nutrients for those with very progressed leaky guts, or who can only swallow

liquids.

What you add before and after is up to the family, but the bone marrow and

bone piece simmering is very nutritious, a technique that has been used in asian

medicene for thousands of years, also used by some native american tribes and

indigineous cultures. A very old technique across the world for healing. I save

my bones, and always freeze small amounts, always have it on hand.

Summer

lists@...> wrote:

Hi Jeni,

Can you post the bone marrow broth recipe?

thanks

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I agree with what Suzanne said. You have to adapt and find your

> own method for intro. My Ben had severe leaky gut too, he didn't

> even pass bm's for over 3 years of his life. As long as there is

> extreme leaky gut, the immune system will keep flagging all those

> foods slipping through undigested. Intro was successful for us by

> using bone marrow broths that are cooked so long. Essential, they

> are a rich source of mineral, and predigested. You can vary with

> two versions, if you like, then start with a couple foods you know

> your child is not sensitive too, that have some calories, etc.

> Introducing things slowly includes supplements, so if you introduce

> Brainchild, do it before going back to intro, otherwise, if your

> child reacts, you will be confused as to what. Either way you go,

> think slow, it doesn't have to be the way I did it exactly. But,

> you can come up with something.

>

> I do recommend Bone Marrow Broths for every child or adult, as it

> is an excellent source of minerals in good ratios, and you cook it

> for so long, it is essential predigested. I can post a recipe

> later, if interested. I have to get going right now.

>

>

> Summer

>

> Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

> Jeni Lynn,

> I think your idea is right, but I would be wary about starting the

> intro diet with foods you think she may already be sensitive to.

>

> Are there any foods you are fairly confident that she tolerates?

> Start with those.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> > Knopp wrote:

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > I finally have a completely legal supplement protocol for Elle

> (minus an " allowable " Brain Child multi vitamin and mineral

> supplement). I am considering backing up to the intro with her and

> starting over again. I am wondering if we may get better results

> this time around since we will have eliminated the illegals in her

> supplements (although we are still chelating transdermally, so I may

> not get fantastic results).

> > If I start over (and I am pretty sure I am going to do this) I

> wanted to ask some questions first. Summer has talked a lot about

> introducing one food a week. I love this idea. My life would be

> much less complicated if I approached SCD this way. I think I would

> be able to do better " detective work. " My problem arises from

> Elle's SEVERE leaky gut. If she eats too much of the same food, she

> is likely to develop an allergy to it. And am I right in thinking

> that the more she is exposed to a " sensitive " food, the more severe

> her allergy will become? So does this exclude me from being able to

> follow Summer's method? If I only introduce 1 food / week, she will

> be eating a whole lot of chicken, eggs, beef because it will take me

> a great many weeks to introduce enough foods to provide an adequate

> rotation (and I am already suspicious that she is sensitive to eggs

> and chicken). What would be the safest way to handle this situation?

> >

> > Should I just scrap the whole starting over idea and keep plugging

> along? BTW we are still somewhere in phase 2 after 3 months (with

> pureeing, deseeding, cooking, etc.)

> >

> > Thanks for any responses. I am in need of guidance once again.

> >

> > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

> > SCD 3 weeks

> > mom to Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity)

> > SCD 3 months

> > Re: Intro diet

> > This is what happens with a leaky gut.

> >

> > Whatever the person eats the most, will " leak out " the most often

> > because of being eaten more frequently.

> >

> > The " leaking " pieces will cause an immune response and then you

> get

> > the high IgG response.

> >

> > But this doesn't mean that the person is allergic to the food in

> the

> > true sense of the word. Those foods should be able to be

> reintroduced

> > once healing has taken place.

> >

> > Just a bit of hope for those of you who are dealing with

> multiple food

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > :)

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the following websites:

> >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

> >

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The point is to have something acidic, since tom doesn't do well with any

fruit, it be best if you left this part out, it will still work you just

will have to boil longer

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: leaky gut question

>Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:52:57 -0000

>

>Is it necessary to have cider or lemon juice? Or is there something I

>can I use to substitute for lemon or apple cider vinegar? Tom is quite

>allergic to both.

>

>Suzanne

>

>

> >

> > Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I

>throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water,

>and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will

>also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or

>however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I let

>the bones cool.

>

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The point is to have something acidic, since tom doesn't do well with any

fruit, it be best if you left this part out, it will still work you just

will have to boil longer

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: leaky gut question

>Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:52:57 -0000

>

>Is it necessary to have cider or lemon juice? Or is there something I

>can I use to substitute for lemon or apple cider vinegar? Tom is quite

>allergic to both.

>

>Suzanne

>

>

> >

> > Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I

>throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water,

>and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will

>also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or

>however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I let

>the bones cool.

>

>

>

>

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The point is to have something acidic, since tom doesn't do well with any

fruit, it be best if you left this part out, it will still work you just

will have to boil longer

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: leaky gut question

>Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:52:57 -0000

>

>Is it necessary to have cider or lemon juice? Or is there something I

>can I use to substitute for lemon or apple cider vinegar? Tom is quite

>allergic to both.

>

>Suzanne

>

>

> >

> > Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I

>throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water,

>and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will

>also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or

>however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I let

>the bones cool.

>

>

>

>

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Suzanne,

Oh by all means exclude them if you want too! The acid helps to pull the

minerals from the bone, but its not going to make a big difference whether you

do this step or not.:)

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

Is it necessary to have cider or lemon juice? Or is there something I

can I use to substitute for lemon or apple cider vinegar? Tom is quite

allergic to both.

Suzanne

>

> Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I

throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water,

and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will

also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or

however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I let

the bones cool.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Suzanne,

Oh by all means exclude them if you want too! The acid helps to pull the

minerals from the bone, but its not going to make a big difference whether you

do this step or not.:)

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

Is it necessary to have cider or lemon juice? Or is there something I

can I use to substitute for lemon or apple cider vinegar? Tom is quite

allergic to both.

Suzanne

>

> Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze them. I

throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough water,

and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon juice will

also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours or

however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I let

the bones cool.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Suzanne,

I just sent a response a second ago, but please do cook the bones a bit longer

if not using an acid. It will be fine!

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

White vinegar is usually corn-derived, sometimes wheat, always from

a grain. I doubt there are any carbs or proteins left, since they

are distilled, but we do not take the chance. Most vinegars except

balsamic and apple are grain derived. Tom's allergic to all things

that could make a vinegar, and all fruits and citrus.

Suzanne

> > > >

> > > > Yes. I save all my bones and sometimes buy bones and freeze

them. I

> > >throw them into a soup pot, and cover, just barely, with enough

water,

> > >and 1/4 cup apple cidar vinegar (another member added lemon

juice will

> > >also work here). I bring to a boil and simmer for about 4 hours

or

> > >however long. This will weaken the bones and the joints. Then I

let

> > >the bones cool.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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