Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jody,

How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks

and may be able to afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about

$500.00/person US dollars to get all of us tested. Didn't Elaine say that some

of these problems are likely to " heal " away...anyway....? Or am I

misunderstanding her? How do you know if you are really sensitive to cow's

milk...or if it's the other factors you guys have taught me about such as: die

off reaction, problems with galactose, prob with phenol and this other component

that I can not remember right now????? THanks for input...because I am afraid to

try it again...son had horrible problems and even got in trouble (due to

behavior disruptions) in his music class and complained of not feeling well and

" the milk made me sick " he said. I felt miserable yesterday sick feeling

physically and depression was compounded....My irritability was back! KiKi had

a " mini " night terror/seizure last night (improvement from before but not good).

Xena and hubby did OK!

Thank you for your input...God Bless your help, Antoinette day 25 entire family

(multiple sensitivities (some unknown) and Celiac ,ADD,ADHD, ASD and other

neurological probs due to damaged gut.

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

" Is it a bad idea to use Lucy's starter with goat milk? "

Not necessarily a BAD idea, unless you are really sensitive to cow's

milk. It does contain traces of skim milk powder.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jody,

How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks

and may be able to afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about

$500.00/person US dollars to get all of us tested. Didn't Elaine say that some

of these problems are likely to " heal " away...anyway....? Or am I

misunderstanding her? How do you know if you are really sensitive to cow's

milk...or if it's the other factors you guys have taught me about such as: die

off reaction, problems with galactose, prob with phenol and this other component

that I can not remember right now????? THanks for input...because I am afraid to

try it again...son had horrible problems and even got in trouble (due to

behavior disruptions) in his music class and complained of not feeling well and

" the milk made me sick " he said. I felt miserable yesterday sick feeling

physically and depression was compounded....My irritability was back! KiKi had

a " mini " night terror/seizure last night (improvement from before but not good).

Xena and hubby did OK!

Thank you for your input...God Bless your help, Antoinette day 25 entire family

(multiple sensitivities (some unknown) and Celiac ,ADD,ADHD, ASD and other

neurological probs due to damaged gut.

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

" Is it a bad idea to use Lucy's starter with goat milk? "

Not necessarily a BAD idea, unless you are really sensitive to cow's

milk. It does contain traces of skim milk powder.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jody,

How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks

and may be able to afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about

$500.00/person US dollars to get all of us tested. Didn't Elaine say that some

of these problems are likely to " heal " away...anyway....? Or am I

misunderstanding her? How do you know if you are really sensitive to cow's

milk...or if it's the other factors you guys have taught me about such as: die

off reaction, problems with galactose, prob with phenol and this other component

that I can not remember right now????? THanks for input...because I am afraid to

try it again...son had horrible problems and even got in trouble (due to

behavior disruptions) in his music class and complained of not feeling well and

" the milk made me sick " he said. I felt miserable yesterday sick feeling

physically and depression was compounded....My irritability was back! KiKi had

a " mini " night terror/seizure last night (improvement from before but not good).

Xena and hubby did OK!

Thank you for your input...God Bless your help, Antoinette day 25 entire family

(multiple sensitivities (some unknown) and Celiac ,ADD,ADHD, ASD and other

neurological probs due to damaged gut.

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

" Is it a bad idea to use Lucy's starter with goat milk? "

Not necessarily a BAD idea, unless you are really sensitive to cow's

milk. It does contain traces of skim milk powder.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not having

the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

I am not Jody but, my daughter was just Elisa tested and it really didn't do

us much good. Her test results showed that she was not anaphalactically

allergic to anything and we tested her for lots of things. It didn't show us

what she was sensitive to. We had to figure that out on our own watching her

behaviors. I am not a big fan of testing as much of it is unaccurate. Also,

if your child eats too much of something, they can develop more

allergies/insensitivities etc. What we did was, Kali's GI doc put her on an

allergy blocker. It's called Gastrocrom. The child may still react to foods

on this med. but, it keeps the inflammation down so healing can take place.

Like instead of treating every symptom we come across, we tend to treat her

more broadly. Mostly with SCD and probiotics and supplements. You can also

check into quercetin & MSM to treat inflammation. Kali's scopes showed

esophagitis, acid reflux, and some inflammation. We are so lucky. We know

someone who is dying from bowel disease. She is 26 and her parents don't

believe in anything but, the maker's diet. The SCD beats that diet over and

over. SCd does not allow buttermilk, whey or grains because one cannot heal

eating these foods. Although, the Maker's Diet may be perfect for the more

advanced healers! Enough about other diets, this is not the greatest place

to bring them up but, I just wanted to let you know that SCD is our #1

healer so far as well as God himself who sent me to one of the moderator's

here! Hope this helps a bit. Jenn & K 10 months SCD ----- Original

Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not

having the money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a

few weeks and may be able to afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will

cost about $500.00/person US dollars to get all of us tested. Didn't Elaine

say that some of these problems are likely to " heal " away...anyway....? Or

am I misunderstanding her? How do you know if you are really sensitive to

cow's milk...or if it's the other factors you guys have taught me about such

as: die off reaction, problems with galactose, prob with phenol and this

other component that I can not remember right now????? THanks for

input...because I am afraid to try it again...son had horrible problems and

even got in trouble (due to behavior disruptions) in his music class and

complained of not feeling well and " the milk made me sick " he said. I felt

miserable yesterday sick feeling physically and depression was

compounded....My irritability was back! KiK

>

> Thank you for your input...God Bless your help, Antoinette day 25 entire

family (multiple sensitivities (some unknown) and Celiac ,ADD,ADHD, ASD and

other neurological probs due to damaged gut.

>

> Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>

>

> " Is it a bad idea to use Lucy's starter with goat milk? "

>

> Not necessarily a BAD idea, unless you are really sensitive to cow's

> milk. It does contain traces of skim milk powder.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i

nfo/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not Jody but, my daughter was just Elisa tested and it really didn't do

us much good. Her test results showed that she was not anaphalactically

allergic to anything and we tested her for lots of things. It didn't show us

what she was sensitive to. We had to figure that out on our own watching her

behaviors. I am not a big fan of testing as much of it is unaccurate. Also,

if your child eats too much of something, they can develop more

allergies/insensitivities etc. What we did was, Kali's GI doc put her on an

allergy blocker. It's called Gastrocrom. The child may still react to foods

on this med. but, it keeps the inflammation down so healing can take place.

Like instead of treating every symptom we come across, we tend to treat her

more broadly. Mostly with SCD and probiotics and supplements. You can also

check into quercetin & MSM to treat inflammation. Kali's scopes showed

esophagitis, acid reflux, and some inflammation. We are so lucky. We know

someone who is dying from bowel disease. She is 26 and her parents don't

believe in anything but, the maker's diet. The SCD beats that diet over and

over. SCd does not allow buttermilk, whey or grains because one cannot heal

eating these foods. Although, the Maker's Diet may be perfect for the more

advanced healers! Enough about other diets, this is not the greatest place

to bring them up but, I just wanted to let you know that SCD is our #1

healer so far as well as God himself who sent me to one of the moderator's

here! Hope this helps a bit. Jenn & K 10 months SCD ----- Original

Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not

having the money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a

few weeks and may be able to afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will

cost about $500.00/person US dollars to get all of us tested. Didn't Elaine

say that some of these problems are likely to " heal " away...anyway....? Or

am I misunderstanding her? How do you know if you are really sensitive to

cow's milk...or if it's the other factors you guys have taught me about such

as: die off reaction, problems with galactose, prob with phenol and this

other component that I can not remember right now????? THanks for

input...because I am afraid to try it again...son had horrible problems and

even got in trouble (due to behavior disruptions) in his music class and

complained of not feeling well and " the milk made me sick " he said. I felt

miserable yesterday sick feeling physically and depression was

compounded....My irritability was back! KiK

>

> Thank you for your input...God Bless your help, Antoinette day 25 entire

family (multiple sensitivities (some unknown) and Celiac ,ADD,ADHD, ASD and

other neurological probs due to damaged gut.

>

> Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>

>

> " Is it a bad idea to use Lucy's starter with goat milk? "

>

> Not necessarily a BAD idea, unless you are really sensitive to cow's

> milk. It does contain traces of skim milk powder.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i

nfo/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So I take it we should keep our 500.00 per person (family of five) and buy

groceries!

Antoinette (day 25 entire family)

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not

having the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

So I take it we should keep our 500.00 per person (family of five) and buy

groceries!

Antoinette (day 25 entire family)

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not

having the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

So I take it we should keep our 500.00 per person (family of five) and buy

groceries!

Antoinette (day 25 entire family)

Re:HELP! Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again/JODY.

>

> Dear Jody,

>

> How do you know this....we have never had food Elisa testing due to not

having the

money to afford it.....yet will be getting a big tax break in a few weeks and

may be able to

afford it. Is it worth it....I think it will cost about $500.00/person US

dollars to get all of us

tested. Didn't Elaine say that some of these problems are likely to " heal "

away...anyway....?

Or am I misunderstanding her?

That's exactly what she said.

Carol F.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Oftentimes an elimination diet is the most effective way to determine

what foods someone cannot tolerate.

If you start SCD with the intro diet and add foods slowly, you get the

best information what is and is not tolerated by each individual.

In your case, it is tough because you are attempting to track 5

different people.

It's not easy, I know, but it is the most effective.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Oftentimes an elimination diet is the most effective way to determine

what foods someone cannot tolerate.

If you start SCD with the intro diet and add foods slowly, you get the

best information what is and is not tolerated by each individual.

In your case, it is tough because you are attempting to track 5

different people.

It's not easy, I know, but it is the most effective.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Oftentimes an elimination diet is the most effective way to determine

what foods someone cannot tolerate.

If you start SCD with the intro diet and add foods slowly, you get the

best information what is and is not tolerated by each individual.

In your case, it is tough because you are attempting to track 5

different people.

It's not easy, I know, but it is the most effective.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

>

> So I take it we should keep our 500.00 per person (family of five) and buy

groceries!

>

It's your decision, Antoinette.

Elaine was not as familiar with autism as some on the list b but that was her

opinion and

she was infuriated by the fees charged for these tests.

I had some of them and they were useless as I decided to follow the diet and

would have

had to do that anyhow. The only supplements I was prescribed were calcium for

bone loss

(proved needless in a recent study) accompanied by Vitamin D and Magnesium. I

discontined all but the recomended Freda Vitamins.

The naturopath, on the other hand had an entire magician's bag of supplement

tricks to

suggest and by a coincidennce you could buy them all directly from her.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac