Re: Loose and Liquid Stools for 2 months

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Bruce,

What is the bio-medical diet? What is the website?

Thanks in advance!!!

Agape,

Bruce Desiderio s_desiderio@...> wrote:

We started the SCD/GFCF/Low Sugar about 3 months ago and our 5yo ASD son has

had loose stools for about 2 months. The past few weeks it has been really bad.

Up to 7 liquid stools a day. Prior to this we have done the GFCF diet for about

2 1/2 years and bio-medical for about two years. Maybe this is not the diet for

? Maybe BED or Low Oxcilate? Any suggestion?

Aside from usual DAN suppliments, digestive enzymes, transdermal glutothione

and vitamins, we are also chelating (transdermal DMSA, Chorella & Methyl

Peruvate), giving transdermal Low Dose Naltrexone (a casien/gluten opiate

blocker) and Actose (anti-inflammatory). Stool analysis didn't turned up any

yeast, bacterial or viral infection or parasites. Doctor said this doesn't mean

there is none there.

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[Guest guest]

Bruce,

What is the bio-medical diet? What is the website?

Thanks in advance!!!

Agape,

Bruce Desiderio s_desiderio@...> wrote:

We started the SCD/GFCF/Low Sugar about 3 months ago and our 5yo ASD son has

had loose stools for about 2 months. The past few weeks it has been really bad.

Up to 7 liquid stools a day. Prior to this we have done the GFCF diet for about

2 1/2 years and bio-medical for about two years. Maybe this is not the diet for

? Maybe BED or Low Oxcilate? Any suggestion?

Aside from usual DAN suppliments, digestive enzymes, transdermal glutothione

and vitamins, we are also chelating (transdermal DMSA, Chorella & Methyl

Peruvate), giving transdermal Low Dose Naltrexone (a casien/gluten opiate

blocker) and Actose (anti-inflammatory). Stool analysis didn't turned up any

yeast, bacterial or viral infection or parasites. Doctor said this doesn't mean

there is none there.

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[Guest guest]

We really need to know what the child is eating now.

Did you start with the intro deit and slowly add new foods, keeping a

food log?

Chlorella is not allowed on SCD. Plus, from my understanding, there

is no evidence that it chelates anything. This is from Dr. Haley at

the AutismOne conference, if I remember right.

How long have you been chelating?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

SCD has been shown to help with liver function and detoxification of metals over

time, making it an appropriate diet for those that have heavy metal burden, and

helping the detoxification symptoms to correct themselves over time.

Only a few strains of yeast have been mapped out to date, there are thousands

and thousands more for modern medical science to map out. The same goes for

bacterial and viral pathogens. Some of these tests are useful if you have one of

the few main guys that are mapped out at this time, useless otherwise. My

youngest son, while struggling for 3 years with fungal cysts growing on the

outside of his anus and bottom, and while passing liquid for minimum of 3 years

of his life, tested in the clear for any pathogens. Hard to believe. It really

took SCD and Enzymes to kill/stabilize the rampant infections in his body, no

test or doctor could find, treat, or acknowledge.

Also, these symptoms are to be expected if chelating. Metals are moving in the

body. It is going to stir up yeast and all the bad guys, and since mobilizing

metals are simultaneously overworking the detoxification pathways, possibly

altering the immune system, and destroying many of the friendly flora in the

system, and since SCD aims at destroying the bad pathogens and promoting the

friendly flora in the system and healing the gut/immune system (95% of the

immune system is located in the digestive system), you have alot of stuff going

on at one time.

3 months is not very long to be on the diet. It is still the first massive die

off stage. Since chelation actually increases pathogens, and SCD decreases

pathogenic organisms by cutting off their food supply, it sounds like a

continuous state of die off!

Unfortunately, healing is difficult to work on while chelating. SCD is a whole

foods diet, free of additives (like MSG), food colorings, ideally all foods

someone is sensitive/allergic to are removed from the diet, it is home-made, and

the foods are easy on the intestines, easy to digest. Some people also include

Feingold and Low-Oxalate diet principles into the SCD. It is just a basic,

healthy diet, and probably one of the best supportive aids to a body while

undergoing chelation.

As a side, my own children were poisonned from a superfund site. SCD to heal

the gut, and break the " Vicious Metal Cycle " and Enzymes, along with some other

supplements has been all that is needed to reduce metal burden and repair the

methylation pathways. SCD is amazing stuff!

No one diet is appropriate for everybody, I fully understand that. At the same

time, I have an old motto that has helped me immensly. Never leave a diet

without finding out why the diet isn't working. Then you will know what to look

for in the next diet, or as many people do, the right combination like

low-oxalate SCD, etc. There is no one answer or one solution.

Best of luck to you in your search!

Summer and Family, SCD 16 or so months

Bruce Desiderio s_desiderio@...> wrote:

We started the SCD/GFCF/Low Sugar about 3 months ago and our 5yo ASD son has

had loose stools for about 2 months. The past few weeks it has been really bad.

Up to 7 liquid stools a day. Prior to this we have done the GFCF diet for about

2 1/2 years and bio-medical for about two years. Maybe this is not the diet for

? Maybe BED or Low Oxcilate? Any suggestion?

Aside from usual DAN suppliments, digestive enzymes, transdermal glutothione

and vitamins, we are also chelating (transdermal DMSA, Chorella & Methyl

Peruvate), giving transdermal Low Dose Naltrexone (a casien/gluten opiate

blocker) and Actose (anti-inflammatory). Stool analysis didn't turned up any

yeast, bacterial or viral infection or parasites. Doctor said this doesn't mean

there is none there.

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[Guest guest]

SCD has been shown to help with liver function and detoxification of metals over

time, making it an appropriate diet for those that have heavy metal burden, and

helping the detoxification symptoms to correct themselves over time.

Only a few strains of yeast have been mapped out to date, there are thousands

and thousands more for modern medical science to map out. The same goes for

bacterial and viral pathogens. Some of these tests are useful if you have one of

the few main guys that are mapped out at this time, useless otherwise. My

youngest son, while struggling for 3 years with fungal cysts growing on the

outside of his anus and bottom, and while passing liquid for minimum of 3 years

of his life, tested in the clear for any pathogens. Hard to believe. It really

took SCD and Enzymes to kill/stabilize the rampant infections in his body, no

test or doctor could find, treat, or acknowledge.

Also, these symptoms are to be expected if chelating. Metals are moving in the

body. It is going to stir up yeast and all the bad guys, and since mobilizing

metals are simultaneously overworking the detoxification pathways, possibly

altering the immune system, and destroying many of the friendly flora in the

system, and since SCD aims at destroying the bad pathogens and promoting the

friendly flora in the system and healing the gut/immune system (95% of the

immune system is located in the digestive system), you have alot of stuff going

on at one time.

3 months is not very long to be on the diet. It is still the first massive die

off stage. Since chelation actually increases pathogens, and SCD decreases

pathogenic organisms by cutting off their food supply, it sounds like a

continuous state of die off!

Unfortunately, healing is difficult to work on while chelating. SCD is a whole

foods diet, free of additives (like MSG), food colorings, ideally all foods

someone is sensitive/allergic to are removed from the diet, it is home-made, and

the foods are easy on the intestines, easy to digest. Some people also include

Feingold and Low-Oxalate diet principles into the SCD. It is just a basic,

healthy diet, and probably one of the best supportive aids to a body while

undergoing chelation.

As a side, my own children were poisonned from a superfund site. SCD to heal

the gut, and break the " Vicious Metal Cycle " and Enzymes, along with some other

supplements has been all that is needed to reduce metal burden and repair the

methylation pathways. SCD is amazing stuff!

No one diet is appropriate for everybody, I fully understand that. At the same

time, I have an old motto that has helped me immensly. Never leave a diet

without finding out why the diet isn't working. Then you will know what to look

for in the next diet, or as many people do, the right combination like

low-oxalate SCD, etc. There is no one answer or one solution.

Best of luck to you in your search!

Summer and Family, SCD 16 or so months

Bruce Desiderio s_desiderio@...> wrote:

We started the SCD/GFCF/Low Sugar about 3 months ago and our 5yo ASD son has

had loose stools for about 2 months. The past few weeks it has been really bad.

Up to 7 liquid stools a day. Prior to this we have done the GFCF diet for about

2 1/2 years and bio-medical for about two years. Maybe this is not the diet for

? Maybe BED or Low Oxcilate? Any suggestion?

Aside from usual DAN suppliments, digestive enzymes, transdermal glutothione

and vitamins, we are also chelating (transdermal DMSA, Chorella & Methyl

Peruvate), giving transdermal Low Dose Naltrexone (a casien/gluten opiate

blocker) and Actose (anti-inflammatory). Stool analysis didn't turned up any

yeast, bacterial or viral infection or parasites. Doctor said this doesn't mean

there is none there.

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[Guest guest]

I am confused.

Is this the list of foods that he is currently eating?

" eats eggs, ghee, stews, beef, chicken, turkey, rice, quinos,

blueberrys, strawberrys, bananas, tatert tots, peanut butter, carrots,

beans and diluted pear & apple juice. He drinks rice milk, mostly to

get him to eat vitamins and suppliments disolved in it. "

Rice, quinoa, tater tots, and rice milk are NOT allowed on SCD.

Beans are only introduced after significant healing has taken place

(at least 6 months on the diet).

Pear and apple juice must be homemade to be allowed on SCD.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03