Re: Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

[Guest guest]

Hi Greg

From what I can understand from Dr Nase's book, your derm was correct. The

damaged blood vessels need to be eradicated. i am sure that I rememeber

reading that dr. nase syas that the topicals are only treating the symtpoms

and not the cause which is vascular in nature. A recent trip to my derm

almost revealed the same thing. he suggested that I have the broken

capillaries zapped. In naother place in dr. nase's book he says that unless

there is flushing, it is not true rosacea. The 2 (flushing and the damaged

vascular system) are closely related in rosacea..

Like you I am confused. I have a few patches of spidery broken blood vessels

but I am not a flusher or blusher. I may get a little pink if I walk in a

icy wind or spend time in the sun ( without a sunscreen ) but I never get

red.

I am looking forward to how this question is answered.

I have just received dr. nase's book and I am overwhelmed by the amount of

info.

Take care

Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

> Hi everyone!

>

> I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very well respected,

> long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know Randall B.

> Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was good to go.

>

> I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years ago(age 38). My

> metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year and I wanted a

> re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained the situation to

> the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have rosacea, you have

> sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept pointing the fact

> that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and at the same time I

> am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my acne. She said

> that the laser treatments would take all of the red out and

> effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same sentence she

> made a reference to the fact that I could waste money on the lotion

> or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

>

> What is she trying to say here? I always thought that the laser

> treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not the cause. Is she

> just trying to profit from my ignorance about rosacea?

>

> Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the papers I left

> with a prescription was not included. Just some literature and some

> free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid someone to give

> me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the wat to go?

>

> Thanks!

> Greg

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi --I was diagnosed with rosacea about 5 years before I ever

started flushing. But when I did, it came on with a vengeance. I

agree, get rid of those veins before they become a problem.

> Hi Greg

> From what I can understand from Dr Nase's book, your derm was

correct. The

> damaged blood vessels need to be eradicated. i am sure that I

rememeber

> reading that dr. nase syas that the topicals are only treating the

symtpoms

> and not the cause which is vascular in nature. A recent trip to my

derm

> almost revealed the same thing. he suggested that I have the broken

> capillaries zapped. In naother place in dr. nase's book he says

that unless

> there is flushing, it is not true rosacea. The 2 (flushing and the

damaged

> vascular system) are closely related in rosacea..

> Like you I am confused. I have a few patches of spidery broken

blood vessels

> but I am not a flusher or blusher. I may get a little pink if I

walk in a

> icy wind or spend time in the sun ( without a sunscreen ) but I

never get

> red.

> I am looking forward to how this question is answered.

> I have just received dr. nase's book and I am overwhelmed by the

amount of

> info.

> Take care

>

> Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

>

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very well

respected,

> > long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know Randall B.

> > Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was good to go.

> >

> > I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years ago(age 38). My

> > metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year and I wanted

a

> > re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained the situation to

> > the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have rosacea, you

have

> > sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept pointing the fact

> > that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and at the same

time I

> > am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my acne. She said

> > that the laser treatments would take all of the red out and

> > effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same sentence she

> > made a reference to the fact that I could waste money on the

lotion

> > or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

> >

> > What is she trying to say here? I always thought that the laser

> > treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not the cause. Is

she

> > just trying to profit from my ignorance about rosacea?

> >

> > Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the papers I left

> > with a prescription was not included. Just some literature and

some

> > free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid someone to

give

> > me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the wat to go?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

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> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi --I was diagnosed with rosacea about 5 years before I ever

started flushing. But when I did, it came on with a vengeance. I

agree, get rid of those veins before they become a problem.

> Hi Greg

> From what I can understand from Dr Nase's book, your derm was

correct. The

> damaged blood vessels need to be eradicated. i am sure that I

rememeber

> reading that dr. nase syas that the topicals are only treating the

symtpoms

> and not the cause which is vascular in nature. A recent trip to my

derm

> almost revealed the same thing. he suggested that I have the broken

> capillaries zapped. In naother place in dr. nase's book he says

that unless

> there is flushing, it is not true rosacea. The 2 (flushing and the

damaged

> vascular system) are closely related in rosacea..

> Like you I am confused. I have a few patches of spidery broken

blood vessels

> but I am not a flusher or blusher. I may get a little pink if I

walk in a

> icy wind or spend time in the sun ( without a sunscreen ) but I

never get

> red.

> I am looking forward to how this question is answered.

> I have just received dr. nase's book and I am overwhelmed by the

amount of

> info.

> Take care

>

> Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

>

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very well

respected,

> > long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know Randall B.

> > Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was good to go.

> >

> > I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years ago(age 38). My

> > metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year and I wanted

a

> > re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained the situation to

> > the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have rosacea, you

have

> > sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept pointing the fact

> > that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and at the same

time I

> > am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my acne. She said

> > that the laser treatments would take all of the red out and

> > effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same sentence she

> > made a reference to the fact that I could waste money on the

lotion

> > or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

> >

> > What is she trying to say here? I always thought that the laser

> > treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not the cause. Is

she

> > just trying to profit from my ignorance about rosacea?

> >

> > Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the papers I left

> > with a prescription was not included. Just some literature and

some

> > free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid someone to

give

> > me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the wat to go?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

> (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you

don't

> give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change

the

> subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi --I was diagnosed with rosacea about 5 years before I ever

started flushing. But when I did, it came on with a vengeance. I

agree, get rid of those veins before they become a problem.

> Hi Greg

> From what I can understand from Dr Nase's book, your derm was

correct. The

> damaged blood vessels need to be eradicated. i am sure that I

rememeber

> reading that dr. nase syas that the topicals are only treating the

symtpoms

> and not the cause which is vascular in nature. A recent trip to my

derm

> almost revealed the same thing. he suggested that I have the broken

> capillaries zapped. In naother place in dr. nase's book he says

that unless

> there is flushing, it is not true rosacea. The 2 (flushing and the

damaged

> vascular system) are closely related in rosacea..

> Like you I am confused. I have a few patches of spidery broken

blood vessels

> but I am not a flusher or blusher. I may get a little pink if I

walk in a

> icy wind or spend time in the sun ( without a sunscreen ) but I

never get

> red.

> I am looking forward to how this question is answered.

> I have just received dr. nase's book and I am overwhelmed by the

amount of

> info.

> Take care

>

> Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

>

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very well

respected,

> > long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know Randall B.

> > Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was good to go.

> >

> > I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years ago(age 38). My

> > metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year and I wanted

a

> > re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained the situation to

> > the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have rosacea, you

have

> > sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept pointing the fact

> > that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and at the same

time I

> > am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my acne. She said

> > that the laser treatments would take all of the red out and

> > effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same sentence she

> > made a reference to the fact that I could waste money on the

lotion

> > or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

> >

> > What is she trying to say here? I always thought that the laser

> > treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not the cause. Is

she

> > just trying to profit from my ignorance about rosacea?

> >

> > Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the papers I left

> > with a prescription was not included. Just some literature and

some

> > free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid someone to

give

> > me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the wat to go?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

> (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you

don't

> give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change

the

> subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

DO NOT use the Alpha Hydroxy sample she gave you. If you do have

rosacea it will make it much worse in the long run.

Patty

> Hi Greg

> From what I can understand from Dr Nase's book, your derm was

correct. The

> damaged blood vessels need to be eradicated. i am sure that I

rememeber

> reading that dr. nase syas that the topicals are only treating the

symtpoms

> and not the cause which is vascular in nature. A recent trip to my

derm

> almost revealed the same thing. he suggested that I have the broken

> capillaries zapped. In naother place in dr. nase's book he says

that unless

> there is flushing, it is not true rosacea. The 2 (flushing and the

damaged

> vascular system) are closely related in rosacea..

> Like you I am confused. I have a few patches of spidery broken

blood vessels

> but I am not a flusher or blusher. I may get a little pink if I

walk in a

> icy wind or spend time in the sun ( without a sunscreen ) but I

never get

> red.

> I am looking forward to how this question is answered.

> I have just received dr. nase's book and I am overwhelmed by the

amount of

> info.

> Take care

>

> Just had a Dr. visit and I'm pretty confused

>

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very well

respected,

> > long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know Randall B.

> > Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was good to go.

> >

> > I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years ago(age 38). My

> > metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year and I wanted

a

> > re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained the situation to

> > the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have rosacea, you

have

> > sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept pointing the fact

> > that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and at the same

time I

> > am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my acne. She said

> > that the laser treatments would take all of the red out and

> > effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same sentence she

> > made a reference to the fact that I could waste money on the

lotion

> > or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

> >

> > What is she trying to say here? I always thought that the laser

> > treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not the cause. Is

she

> > just trying to profit from my ignorance about rosacea?

> >

> > Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the papers I left

> > with a prescription was not included. Just some literature and

some

> > free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid someone to

give

> > me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the wat to go?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

> (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you

don't

> give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change

the

> subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Find another dermatologist, or better yet, research

alternative treatments and take a look at your diet.

--- greg779865 spooledup6@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone!

>

> I was diagnosed with rosacea(at age 35) from my very

> well respected,

> long time dermatologist in Orlando Fl.(Anybody know

> Randall B.

> Coverman?). He prescribed metro-lotion and I was

> good to go.

>

> I have since moved to Houston TX about 1.5 years

> ago(age 38). My

> metro-lotion has been expired for a well over a year

> and I wanted a

> re-fresher, so I made an appointment. I explained

> the situation to

> the Dr. and she immediately said... " You don't have

> rosacea, you have

> sun damage -- you need laser treatments " . I kept

> pointing the fact

> that I have some minor acne lesions on my nose and

> at the same time I

> am wondering how the laser surgery will supress my

> acne. She said

> that the laser treatments would take all of the red

> out and

> effectively *replace* the metro-lotion. In the same

> sentence she

> made a reference to the fact that I could waste

> money on the lotion

> or get the laser surgery and " be done with it " .

>

> What is she trying to say here? I always thought

> that the laser

> treatments were supposed to treat the effect, not

> the cause. Is she

> just trying to profit from my ignorance about

> rosacea?

>

> Anyway, I asked her for some metro lotion and in the

> papers I left

> with a prescription was not included. Just some

> literature and some

> free samples of Alpha hydroxide. I feel like I paid

> someone to give

> me a sales pitch. Is she right? Is laser surgery the

> wat to go?

>

> Thanks!

> Greg

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to

> the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html).

> Your post will be delayed if you don't give a

> meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must

> change the subject when replying to a digest !

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently

> published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

[Guest guest]

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>

i think it's really important for us

all

to remember:

if a doctor says something

that sounds

outrageous

to us

or gives us a diagnosis

that really doesn't gibe

with what we've learned

it's a

reasonable

course of action

to get another opinion ...

trust people

certainly

but only after they've

earned

that privelege ...

stacey