Re: Re: About the cea Diet, etc.

[Guest guest]

Majorie,

I was diagnosed with (first) perioral dermatitis and

then rosacea by two different derms and my GP. All of

them seemed to be lumping these diagnoses into one

category and applying the same treatment protocol.

It appears that raw tomatoes, raw onions and all

gluten-containing foods and cosmetics are what make me

flush and breakout. When I told my current derm this,

he said " oh yeah, that could do it too " . I was refered

to an allergist and was refused by his nurse (over the

phone) because I'm not having a life-threatening

allergy.

If I avoid these foods, I'm relieved of a host of

physical complaints, and my skin stays (mostly) clear.

The swelling across my cheeks and nose have

disappeared. I'm most battling the red marks my

breakouts have left behind.

I never thought I had (what I've seen/read about)

classic rosacea, but each of the doctors jumped to

that conclusion without exploring other possibilities

or asking about symptoms in any other part of my body

(and there were some good ones... I was seeing a GI

specialist at the same time).

I think this is, in part, because my local health care

(in No. California) has become very insurance-driven.

I'm sure the allergist knew that my HMO wouldn't pay

for allergy testing, and the derms knew the HMO would

want to know why they didn't treat me for rosacea

before jumping to other testing. As of last year, my

HMO was offering doctors a end-of-year bonus for NOT

referring patients for additional testing. I think

that's still true.

Please understand, it's not my intent to diagnose

anyone over the internet, and I think the group

participants I've communicated with in the past year

would agree, but I stand by what I was intending in my

previous post -- there are some symptoms that are not

part of " classic " rosacea and really shouldn't be

ignored.

I look at it this way -- if my child called from

college and said his lips and eyes were swollen and

his face was burning, I'd suggest he find a doctor,

fast. If he was wheezing or having other trouble

breathing, I'd suggest he call 911.

Of course, the other question is why do I stick around

on the list if I'm 95% certain I don't have " classic "

rosacea? Because I'm convinced many list participants

don't have it either, and they need to hear that there

are other possibilities... it may save them time,

money, and frustration.

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

Majorie,

I was diagnosed with (first) perioral dermatitis and

then rosacea by two different derms and my GP. All of

them seemed to be lumping these diagnoses into one

category and applying the same treatment protocol.

It appears that raw tomatoes, raw onions and all

gluten-containing foods and cosmetics are what make me

flush and breakout. When I told my current derm this,

he said " oh yeah, that could do it too " . I was refered

to an allergist and was refused by his nurse (over the

phone) because I'm not having a life-threatening

allergy.

If I avoid these foods, I'm relieved of a host of

physical complaints, and my skin stays (mostly) clear.

The swelling across my cheeks and nose have

disappeared. I'm most battling the red marks my

breakouts have left behind.

I never thought I had (what I've seen/read about)

classic rosacea, but each of the doctors jumped to

that conclusion without exploring other possibilities

or asking about symptoms in any other part of my body

(and there were some good ones... I was seeing a GI

specialist at the same time).

I think this is, in part, because my local health care

(in No. California) has become very insurance-driven.

I'm sure the allergist knew that my HMO wouldn't pay

for allergy testing, and the derms knew the HMO would

want to know why they didn't treat me for rosacea

before jumping to other testing. As of last year, my

HMO was offering doctors a end-of-year bonus for NOT

referring patients for additional testing. I think

that's still true.

Please understand, it's not my intent to diagnose

anyone over the internet, and I think the group

participants I've communicated with in the past year

would agree, but I stand by what I was intending in my

previous post -- there are some symptoms that are not

part of " classic " rosacea and really shouldn't be

ignored.

I look at it this way -- if my child called from

college and said his lips and eyes were swollen and

his face was burning, I'd suggest he find a doctor,

fast. If he was wheezing or having other trouble

breathing, I'd suggest he call 911.

Of course, the other question is why do I stick around

on the list if I'm 95% certain I don't have " classic "

rosacea? Because I'm convinced many list participants

don't have it either, and they need to hear that there

are other possibilities... it may save them time,

money, and frustration.

Suzi

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Majorie,

I was diagnosed with (first) perioral dermatitis and

then rosacea by two different derms and my GP. All of

them seemed to be lumping these diagnoses into one

category and applying the same treatment protocol.

It appears that raw tomatoes, raw onions and all

gluten-containing foods and cosmetics are what make me

flush and breakout. When I told my current derm this,

he said " oh yeah, that could do it too " . I was refered

to an allergist and was refused by his nurse (over the

phone) because I'm not having a life-threatening

allergy.

If I avoid these foods, I'm relieved of a host of

physical complaints, and my skin stays (mostly) clear.

The swelling across my cheeks and nose have

disappeared. I'm most battling the red marks my

breakouts have left behind.

I never thought I had (what I've seen/read about)

classic rosacea, but each of the doctors jumped to

that conclusion without exploring other possibilities

or asking about symptoms in any other part of my body

(and there were some good ones... I was seeing a GI

specialist at the same time).

I think this is, in part, because my local health care

(in No. California) has become very insurance-driven.

I'm sure the allergist knew that my HMO wouldn't pay

for allergy testing, and the derms knew the HMO would

want to know why they didn't treat me for rosacea

before jumping to other testing. As of last year, my

HMO was offering doctors a end-of-year bonus for NOT

referring patients for additional testing. I think

that's still true.

Please understand, it's not my intent to diagnose

anyone over the internet, and I think the group

participants I've communicated with in the past year

would agree, but I stand by what I was intending in my

previous post -- there are some symptoms that are not

part of " classic " rosacea and really shouldn't be

ignored.

I look at it this way -- if my child called from

college and said his lips and eyes were swollen and

his face was burning, I'd suggest he find a doctor,

fast. If he was wheezing or having other trouble

breathing, I'd suggest he call 911.

Of course, the other question is why do I stick around

on the list if I'm 95% certain I don't have " classic "

rosacea? Because I'm convinced many list participants

don't have it either, and they need to hear that there

are other possibilities... it may save them time,

money, and frustration.

Suzi

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am one of those that probably do not have " classic "

rosacea. I have had the red face and flares for many

years. My skin is now extremely sensitive. I also

have been diagnosed by 2 GPs and a GI specialist with

IBS. I have many allergies, but have never seen an

allergist. I have just treated the symptoms. I have

learned so much from this group. I especially

appreciate Suzi's posts because they seem to apply to

my situation.

--- Suzi LeBaron suzi_lebaron@...> wrote:

> Majorie,

>

> I was diagnosed with (first) perioral dermatitis and

> then rosacea by two different derms and my GP. All

> of

> them seemed to be lumping these diagnoses into one

> category and applying the same treatment protocol.

>

> It appears that raw tomatoes, raw onions and all

> gluten-containing foods and cosmetics are what make

> me

> flush and breakout. When I told my current derm

> this,

> he said " oh yeah, that could do it too " . I was

> refered

> to an allergist and was refused by his nurse (over

> the

> phone) because I'm not having a life-threatening

> allergy.

>

> If I avoid these foods, I'm relieved of a host of

> physical complaints, and my skin stays (mostly)

> clear.

> The swelling across my cheeks and nose have

> disappeared. I'm most battling the red marks my

> breakouts have left behind.

>

> I never thought I had (what I've seen/read about)

> classic rosacea, but each of the doctors jumped to

> that conclusion without exploring other

> possibilities

> or asking about symptoms in any other part of my

> body

> (and there were some good ones... I was seeing a GI

> specialist at the same time).

>

> I think this is, in part, because my local health

> care

> (in No. California) has become very

> insurance-driven.

> I'm sure the allergist knew that my HMO wouldn't pay

> for allergy testing, and the derms knew the HMO

> would

> want to know why they didn't treat me for rosacea

> before jumping to other testing. As of last year, my

> HMO was offering doctors a end-of-year bonus for NOT

> referring patients for additional testing. I think

> that's still true.

>

> Please understand, it's not my intent to diagnose

> anyone over the internet, and I think the group

> participants I've communicated with in the past year

> would agree, but I stand by what I was intending in

> my

> previous post -- there are some symptoms that are

> not

> part of " classic " rosacea and really shouldn't be

> ignored.

>

> I look at it this way -- if my child called from

> college and said his lips and eyes were swollen and

> his face was burning, I'd suggest he find a doctor,

> fast. If he was wheezing or having other trouble

> breathing, I'd suggest he call 911.

>

> Of course, the other question is why do I stick

> around

> on the list if I'm 95% certain I don't have

> " classic "

> rosacea? Because I'm convinced many list

> participants

> don't have it either, and they need to hear that

> there

> are other possibilities... it may save them time,

> money, and frustration.

>

> Suzi

>

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