Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

[Guest guest]

I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add the

yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I get

terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently flaring due

to trying it again.. Be careful

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

>

>On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

>warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

>realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

>it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

>strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

>dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

>positive way!

>

>What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

>we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

>

>How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

>

>We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

>

>LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

>

>Any stories/opinions welcomed.

>

>Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add the

yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I get

terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently flaring due

to trying it again.. Be careful

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

>

>On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

>warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

>realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

>it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

>strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

>dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

>positive way!

>

>What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

>we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

>

>How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

>

>We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

>

>LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

>

>Any stories/opinions welcomed.

>

>Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Are you nut free? Why not try a nut yogurt first?

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of kikijabunce

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:15 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

positive way!

What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

Any stories/opinions welcomed.

Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Are you nut free? Why not try a nut yogurt first?

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of kikijabunce

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:15 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

positive way!

What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

Any stories/opinions welcomed.

Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Are you nut free? Why not try a nut yogurt first?

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of kikijabunce

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:15 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

positive way!

What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

Any stories/opinions welcomed.

Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even

a little bit sent my son into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny

bit. I feel a little foggy but not sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as Carol

warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one acting

strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to utilize

dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

positive way!

What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to try...should

we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we will.

LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find it.

Any stories/opinions welcomed.

Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

We recommend starting the goat yogurt at 1/8th tsp per day and working

up slowly from there.

I believe you said that you each ate a tablespoon full. That's 24

times the amount we normally recommend to start with.

Could be die off.

It could also be that goat products are a problem right now.

Either way, I'd stop for a few days and if you try again, start with a

much smaller amount the next time.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

We recommend starting the goat yogurt at 1/8th tsp per day and working

up slowly from there.

I believe you said that you each ate a tablespoon full. That's 24

times the amount we normally recommend to start with.

Could be die off.

It could also be that goat products are a problem right now.

Either way, I'd stop for a few days and if you try again, start with a

much smaller amount the next time.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

We recommend starting the goat yogurt at 1/8th tsp per day and working

up slowly from there.

I believe you said that you each ate a tablespoon full. That's 24

times the amount we normally recommend to start with.

Could be die off.

It could also be that goat products are a problem right now.

Either way, I'd stop for a few days and if you try again, start with a

much smaller amount the next time.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

>

> We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night

terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even a little

bit sent my son

into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny bit. I feel a little

foggy but not

sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

>

> Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Not alone at all. I switched to Pecans and only use almonds occasionally. Elaine

describes

amigdalyn (sp?) in almonds and warns against exceeding three muffins a day made

with

almond flour

Carol F.

ASCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night

terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even a little

bit sent my son

into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny bit. I feel a little

foggy but not

sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

>

> Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Not alone at all. I switched to Pecans and only use almonds occasionally. Elaine

describes

amigdalyn (sp?) in almonds and warns against exceeding three muffins a day made

with

almond flour

Carol F.

ASCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Have you tried cow or goat yogurt? What starter did you use?

Sheila, SCD 61 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

>

> I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add

the

> yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I

get

> terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently

flaring due

> to trying it again.. Be careful

>

>

> >From: " kikijabunce "

> >Reply-To: pecanbread

> >To: pecanbread

> >Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

> >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

> >

> >On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as

Carol

> >warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

> >realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

> >it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one

acting

> >strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to

utilize

> >dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

> >positive way!

> >

> >What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to

try...should

> >we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

> >

> >How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

> >

> >We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we

will.

> >

> >LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find

it.

> >

> >Any stories/opinions welcomed.

> >

> >Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Can you make yogurt out of pecans? Should we continue with tiny amounts of

yogurt? Should I drip it....What should we do? Very frustrated!

Antoinette (Day 24 entire family)

Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>

> We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night

terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even a little

bit sent my son

into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny bit. I feel a little

foggy but not

sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

>

> Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Not alone at all.

[Guest guest]

Can you make yogurt out of pecans? Should we continue with tiny amounts of

yogurt? Should I drip it....What should we do? Very frustrated!

Antoinette (Day 24 entire family)

Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>

> We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night

terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even a little

bit sent my son

into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny bit. I feel a little

foggy but not

sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

>

> Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Not alone at all.

[Guest guest]

Can you make yogurt out of pecans? Should we continue with tiny amounts of

yogurt? Should I drip it....What should we do? Very frustrated!

Antoinette (Day 24 entire family)

Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>

> We think the phenol in the almonds was making us have problems esp. in Ki

Ki...night

terrors/delirium like seizures...yet the goat yogurt to night...even a little

bit sent my son

into a hyper irritable state...and that was just a tiny bit. I feel a little

foggy but not

sick...what is going on here? Are we alone?

>

> Antoinette (DAY 23 entire family)

Not alone at all.

[Guest guest]

I've tried both, I've used lucy's starter for cow and other yogurt for goat

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:06:17 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>Have you tried cow or goat yogurt? What starter did you use?

>

>Sheila, SCD 61 mos, UC 22 yrs

> mom of and

> >

> > I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add

>the

> > yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I

>get

> > terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently

>flaring due

> > to trying it again.. Be careful

> >

> >

> > >From: " kikijabunce "

> > >Reply-To: pecanbread

> > >To: pecanbread

> > >Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

> > >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

> > >

> > >On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as

>Carol

> > >warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

> > >realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

> > >it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one

>acting

> > >strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to

>utilize

> > >dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

> > >positive way!

> > >

> > >What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to

>try...should

> > >we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

> > >

> > >How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

> > >

> > >We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we

>will.

> > >

> > >LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find

>it.

> > >

> > >Any stories/opinions welcomed.

> > >

> > >Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I've tried both, I've used lucy's starter for cow and other yogurt for goat

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:06:17 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>Have you tried cow or goat yogurt? What starter did you use?

>

>Sheila, SCD 61 mos, UC 22 yrs

> mom of and

> >

> > I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add

>the

> > yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I

>get

> > terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently

>flaring due

> > to trying it again.. Be careful

> >

> >

> > >From: " kikijabunce "

> > >Reply-To: pecanbread

> > >To: pecanbread

> > >Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

> > >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

> > >

> > >On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as

>Carol

> > >warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

> > >realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

> > >it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one

>acting

> > >strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to

>utilize

> > >dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

> > >positive way!

> > >

> > >What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to

>try...should

> > >we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

> > >

> > >How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

> > >

> > >We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we

>will.

> > >

> > >LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find

>it.

> > >

> > >Any stories/opinions welcomed.

> > >

> > >Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I've tried both, I've used lucy's starter for cow and other yogurt for goat

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:06:17 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>Have you tried cow or goat yogurt? What starter did you use?

>

>Sheila, SCD 61 mos, UC 22 yrs

> mom of and

> >

> > I have been on scd for two years, I have consistantly tried to add

>the

> > yogurt, I love the yogurt, but each time I try, even just a tsp I

>get

> > terribly sick for days and flare up miserably. I am currently

>flaring due

> > to trying it again.. Be careful

> >

> >

> > >From: " kikijabunce "

> > >Reply-To: pecanbread

> > >To: pecanbread

> > >Subject: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

> > >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:15:03 -0000

> > >

> > >On day 23 and trying the goat yogurt again....not " jumping " as

>Carol

> > >warned....when we jumped into an entire bowel full last time not

> > >realizing how fullish we where being...boy did we pay for

> > >it!...Seeming to tolerate it 1 Tablespoon at a time....no one

>acting

> > >strange, feeling strange. We would truly like to be able to

>utilize

> > >dairy of some kind! It would open up our horizons in a very

> > >positive way!

> > >

> > >What do you guys think of cheese...it would be nice to

>try...should

> > >we try goat cheese if we are having ASD related probs?

> > >

> > >How did you guys determine if you where going to use dairy or not?

> > >

> > >We want to feel our best and if we have to sacrifice dairy we

>will.

> > >

> > >LITTERALY SICK OF BEING SICK and want help in any way we can find

>it.

> > >

> > >Any stories/opinions welcomed.

> > >

> > >Antoinette (entire family SCD day 23!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

no I haven't I tried ordering it once, but they never sent it to me. I

think part of my reaction is to the fermentation of it, since I react to

other fermented products, as I have said before, the thing is that I crave

fermented products very badly, so I don't know if they would help if I could

get used to them or if my craving is like an allergy craving?

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:40:37 -0000

>

>,

>

>Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

>

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

>

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no I haven't I tried ordering it once, but they never sent it to me. I

think part of my reaction is to the fermentation of it, since I react to

other fermented products, as I have said before, the thing is that I crave

fermented products very badly, so I don't know if they would help if I could

get used to them or if my craving is like an allergy craving?

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:40:37 -0000

>

>,

>

>Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

>

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

>

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no I haven't I tried ordering it once, but they never sent it to me. I

think part of my reaction is to the fermentation of it, since I react to

other fermented products, as I have said before, the thing is that I crave

fermented products very badly, so I don't know if they would help if I could

get used to them or if my craving is like an allergy craving?

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Trying SCDiet goat yogurt again.

>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:40:37 -0000

>

>,

>

>Have you tried using the ProGurt starter to make goat or nut milk yogurt?

>

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

>

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,

What type of reaction do you have to the fermented products and were

the SCD legal?

What happens if you follow up by taking activated charcoal an hour or

two after eating them (to mop up the toxins the dying yeast produce)?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03