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DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself some.

I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

bothered him before).

I'm not allowing any sugar or crackers, just fruits, veggies and

whatever else is SCD legal.

Any ideas? What I missing here? Am I not seeing something in the book

that I should? This is a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.

Please tell me it gets easier.. and that it's worth it!!!!

Thanks,

Janice

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> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make cheesecake. You can

make the

yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and add a little water

to the Dry

Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as it is filling

and there are

ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few days and then

there will

be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked carrots. I might

whip the

gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon dessert. I might even

make several

jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices into a punch

diluted with

water..

Carol F.

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> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make cheesecake. You can

make the

yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and add a little water

to the Dry

Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as it is filling

and there are

ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few days and then

there will

be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked carrots. I might

whip the

gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon dessert. I might even

make several

jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices into a punch

diluted with

water..

Carol F.

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Thanks.. I couldn't find the DCCC anywhere, have no freaking idea how

to make yogurt(yes, i did see the directions on that website), do not

have the ingredients for chicken soup and the grocery store is 20 min.

away. DS and I gag on cooked carrots. I swear I almost throw up just

at the site of them.

Naybe we'll just screw it and stay sick. This is rediculous!

> >

> > DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> > book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> > Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

>

> So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

>

> If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make

cheesecake. You can make the

> yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and add a

little water to the Dry

> Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as it

is filling and there are

> ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few

days and then there will

> be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked

carrots. I might whip the

> gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon dessert. I

might even make several

> jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices

into a punch diluted with

> water..

>

> Carol F.

>

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Thanks.. I couldn't find the DCCC anywhere, have no freaking idea how

to make yogurt(yes, i did see the directions on that website), do not

have the ingredients for chicken soup and the grocery store is 20 min.

away. DS and I gag on cooked carrots. I swear I almost throw up just

at the site of them.

Naybe we'll just screw it and stay sick. This is rediculous!

> >

> > DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> > book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> > Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

>

> So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

>

> If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make

cheesecake. You can make the

> yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and add a

little water to the Dry

> Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as it

is filling and there are

> ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few

days and then there will

> be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked

carrots. I might whip the

> gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon dessert. I

might even make several

> jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices

into a punch diluted with

> water..

>

> Carol F.

>

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> Thanks.. I couldn't find the DCCC anywhere, have no freaking idea how

> to make yogurt(yes, i did see the directions on that website), do not

> have the ingredients for chicken soup and the grocery store is 20 min.

> away. DS and I gag on cooked carrots. I swear I almost throw up just

> at the site of them.

> Naybe we'll just screw it and stay sick. This is rediculous!

It's your call. Better to know right now: this is a great diet but it requires

compliance and

some changes. Where do you live? Someone may know where you can get the DCCC.

What

foods do you like? Some must be on this diet.

Carol F.

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> Thanks.. I couldn't find the DCCC anywhere, have no freaking idea how

> to make yogurt(yes, i did see the directions on that website), do not

> have the ingredients for chicken soup and the grocery store is 20 min.

> away. DS and I gag on cooked carrots. I swear I almost throw up just

> at the site of them.

> Naybe we'll just screw it and stay sick. This is rediculous!

It's your call. Better to know right now: this is a great diet but it requires

compliance and

some changes. Where do you live? Someone may know where you can get the DCCC.

What

foods do you like? Some must be on this diet.

Carol F.

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Hang in there, it gets better. When we first started my husband

complained of getting hungry all the time. Now it is not that way.

I think it just takes our bodies a time to adjust and our minds time

to adjust and our cooking routines time to adjust.

When we first started I didn't think I was going to ever get to

leave the kitchen. The thought of having to make everything from

scratch, even our catsup, tomato sauce and apple sauce, was totally

overwhelming. I have learned to do these things in the crock pot

where I do not have to stand over them all the time. I have bought

the 2 qt. yogart maker with an extra container so that has become

much easier. I have found some of the baked goods recipes that most

of my family likes(my little girl like almost nothing).

Keep coming to this board and reading, asking questions and

experimenting.

I don't know why you are on SCD but I do know we have seen great

changes in our son since we have started this way of eating.

Be blessed

Sandy M

Whole family SCD in support of 5 yr old son with behavioral problems.

> > >

> > > DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the

BTVC

> > > book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> > > Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

> >

> > So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

> >

> > If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make

> cheesecake. You can make the

> > yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and

add a

> little water to the Dry

> > Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as

it

> is filling and there are

> > ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few

> days and then there will

> > be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked

> carrots. I might whip the

> > gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon

dessert. I

> might even make several

> > jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices

> into a punch diluted with

> > water..

> >

> > Carol F.

> >

>

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Hang in there, it gets better. When we first started my husband

complained of getting hungry all the time. Now it is not that way.

I think it just takes our bodies a time to adjust and our minds time

to adjust and our cooking routines time to adjust.

When we first started I didn't think I was going to ever get to

leave the kitchen. The thought of having to make everything from

scratch, even our catsup, tomato sauce and apple sauce, was totally

overwhelming. I have learned to do these things in the crock pot

where I do not have to stand over them all the time. I have bought

the 2 qt. yogart maker with an extra container so that has become

much easier. I have found some of the baked goods recipes that most

of my family likes(my little girl like almost nothing).

Keep coming to this board and reading, asking questions and

experimenting.

I don't know why you are on SCD but I do know we have seen great

changes in our son since we have started this way of eating.

Be blessed

Sandy M

Whole family SCD in support of 5 yr old son with behavioral problems.

> > >

> > > DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the

BTVC

> > > book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> > > Foreman grill and some gelatin squares.

> >

> > So sorry the " easing is not pleasing. "

> >

> > If I were staring all over and on the intro, I would make

> cheesecake. You can make the

> > yogurt using a 60 watt bulb in an oven or skip the yogurt and

add a

> little water to the Dry

> > Curd Cottage Cheese. I would certainly have the chicken soup as

it

> is filling and there are

> > ebdless ways to make eggs. You only have todo this diet for a few

> days and then there will

> > be many great food choices. I would mash or puree the cooked

> carrots. I might whip the

> > gelatin with an electric beater to make it like a chiffon

dessert. I

> might even make several

> > jice gelatin mixtures and layer them or mix up a few fruit juices

> into a punch diluted with

> > water..

> >

> > Carol F.

> >

>

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Hi Janice,

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

It is very common to have a huge increase in appetite. The intro

diet is only for a maximum of 5 days. 4-5 days for those with

diarrhea, 2-3 days for everything else is sufficient. There are some

intro meal ideas at : http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro.

If you eat dairy then you can also use DCCC. You can make cheesecake

(baked to custard consistency) recipe in BTVC.

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself

some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

Bananas aren't on the intro. But, if you don't feel like you can

last without other SCD legal foods then go ahead. It is great if you

can do the into but it is more important to get the SCD illegals out

of your diet, so you can begin to heal.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

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Thank you everyone. Thanks. I've decided to wait until we get back

from my parents house to start it. We leave next Wed. and I still

would have to make ketchup, bread, etc. before I go. We'll be gone for

a week, so I'll really get started in March. And this way I'll be able

to clean out my kitchen more(dh was just eating cereal and ds walked

in and started crying for some.. Yeah, that doesn't help).

I know it won't be so bad once we get started on it. It's the getting

started part that is hard.

Oh, a question about the intro diet. Can he(we) have snacks while on

it? he eats all day(literally, all day) and on the intro diet, I

didn't know what to give him. DH is the same way. He wants to start

the diet too, but he eats literally all day long(they both have really

high metabolism) at work and said he would go hungry on the intro diet

too. And he needs it for at least 3-4 days. Any ideas? What would be

good snacks during that time?

Not eating the corn chips and rice, etc. has been the easy part for

me. I'm on the 2nd week of the South Beach Diet and don't even want

stuff like that anymore(though the chocolate cravings are killing me

the most). DS obviously is used to them and wants them. Monday night

at dinner time he layed kicking and banging his hands on the floor

while yelling " I want noodles!!! " He didn't get any, of course.

As for the increased appetite, I don't think that was the problem. The

only thing he ate y'day was 2 eggs for breakfast, a cupcake for snack

at preschool(I didn't know it was someones birthday. I will be taking

his own snacks when we really start the diet), 1 small block of grape

gelatin(that I made) and a small hamburger patty. That's not much for

him.

I just don't understand what I'm supposed to do when my already

under-weight 3 year old comes and says he's hungry. Make him go

hungry? I know the quantities are unlimited, but is that only at

mealtime, or can I give him that stuff for snacks too? I'm talking

during the intro part of the diet.

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh and rude and bitter in my original

message. I'm overwhelmed and confused and frustrated and, to be

honest, I was the same way when I started the South Beach Diet(the

first time last year).. LOL.. I guess I have a hard time w/change. I

will get used to it, it's just going to take some time and planning on

my part. And I think waiting until after we visit my parents would be

the best idea. I know, the sooner we start the better, but me

stressing about it really is not helping anyone.

Thanks again,

Janice and Cias-slow growth, constant illnesses, 10+ rounds of

antibiotics in 3 years, and behavioral issues.

>

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

>

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

>

> I'm not allowing any sugar or crackers, just fruits, veggies and

> whatever else is SCD legal.

>

> Any ideas? What I missing here? Am I not seeing something in the book

> that I should? This is a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.

> Please tell me it gets easier.. and that it's worth it!!!!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janice

>

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Thank you everyone. Thanks. I've decided to wait until we get back

from my parents house to start it. We leave next Wed. and I still

would have to make ketchup, bread, etc. before I go. We'll be gone for

a week, so I'll really get started in March. And this way I'll be able

to clean out my kitchen more(dh was just eating cereal and ds walked

in and started crying for some.. Yeah, that doesn't help).

I know it won't be so bad once we get started on it. It's the getting

started part that is hard.

Oh, a question about the intro diet. Can he(we) have snacks while on

it? he eats all day(literally, all day) and on the intro diet, I

didn't know what to give him. DH is the same way. He wants to start

the diet too, but he eats literally all day long(they both have really

high metabolism) at work and said he would go hungry on the intro diet

too. And he needs it for at least 3-4 days. Any ideas? What would be

good snacks during that time?

Not eating the corn chips and rice, etc. has been the easy part for

me. I'm on the 2nd week of the South Beach Diet and don't even want

stuff like that anymore(though the chocolate cravings are killing me

the most). DS obviously is used to them and wants them. Monday night

at dinner time he layed kicking and banging his hands on the floor

while yelling " I want noodles!!! " He didn't get any, of course.

As for the increased appetite, I don't think that was the problem. The

only thing he ate y'day was 2 eggs for breakfast, a cupcake for snack

at preschool(I didn't know it was someones birthday. I will be taking

his own snacks when we really start the diet), 1 small block of grape

gelatin(that I made) and a small hamburger patty. That's not much for

him.

I just don't understand what I'm supposed to do when my already

under-weight 3 year old comes and says he's hungry. Make him go

hungry? I know the quantities are unlimited, but is that only at

mealtime, or can I give him that stuff for snacks too? I'm talking

during the intro part of the diet.

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh and rude and bitter in my original

message. I'm overwhelmed and confused and frustrated and, to be

honest, I was the same way when I started the South Beach Diet(the

first time last year).. LOL.. I guess I have a hard time w/change. I

will get used to it, it's just going to take some time and planning on

my part. And I think waiting until after we visit my parents would be

the best idea. I know, the sooner we start the better, but me

stressing about it really is not helping anyone.

Thanks again,

Janice and Cias-slow growth, constant illnesses, 10+ rounds of

antibiotics in 3 years, and behavioral issues.

>

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

>

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

>

> I'm not allowing any sugar or crackers, just fruits, veggies and

> whatever else is SCD legal.

>

> Any ideas? What I missing here? Am I not seeing something in the book

> that I should? This is a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.

> Please tell me it gets easier.. and that it's worth it!!!!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janice

>

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Food intake on SCD is not limited.

I would figure out how many calories he needs and keep his intake near

that amount. If he is underweight, then give him a bit more.

But sometimes kids eat because they are bored or want the oral

stimulation. That's the point at which food has to be limited and the

behavior has to be redirected.

But given that your child is not a chronic overeater, then yes, feed

him when he is hungry. Feed him whatever is appropriate for him at

the time. So, on the intro diet, just feed him more of the intro diet

foods. For breakfast, lunch, dinner and all snacks. It may not seem

like a " snack " to eat a hamburger and jello, but it certainly won't

hurt him.

Once the food choices expand, his snacks may look more like what we

consider a snack to be. But in our house, they do not. I do not feed

cookies or muffins for " snacks " . I feed more " regular " food for

snacks. I pretty much keep cupcakes, muffins, cake and cookies for

special occasions. That allows the boys to feel like they are getting

a treat. If it is something they get all the time, then it is not

special.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

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