Introductory diet.. Am I missing something here? We're starving!

[Guest guest]

DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself some.

I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

bothered him before).

I'm not allowing any sugar or crackers, just fruits, veggies and

whatever else is SCD legal.

Any ideas? What I missing here? Am I not seeing something in the book

that I should? This is a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.

Please tell me it gets easier.. and that it's worth it!!!!

Thanks,

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice,

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

It is very common to have a huge increase in appetite. The intro

diet is only for a maximum of 5 days. 4-5 days for those with

diarrhea, 2-3 days for everything else is sufficient. There are some

intro meal ideas at : http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro.

If you eat dairy then you can also use DCCC. You can make cheesecake

(baked to custard consistency) recipe in BTVC.

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself

some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

Bananas aren't on the intro. But, if you don't feel like you can

last without other SCD legal foods then go ahead. It is great if you

can do the into but it is more important to get the SCD illegals out

of your diet, so you can begin to heal.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice,

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

It is very common to have a huge increase in appetite. The intro

diet is only for a maximum of 5 days. 4-5 days for those with

diarrhea, 2-3 days for everything else is sufficient. There are some

intro meal ideas at : http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro.

If you eat dairy then you can also use DCCC. You can make cheesecake

(baked to custard consistency) recipe in BTVC.

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself

some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

Bananas aren't on the intro. But, if you don't feel like you can

last without other SCD legal foods then go ahead. It is great if you

can do the into but it is more important to get the SCD illegals out

of your diet, so you can begin to heal.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Thank you everyone. Thanks. I've decided to wait until we get back

from my parents house to start it. We leave next Wed. and I still

would have to make ketchup, bread, etc. before I go. We'll be gone for

a week, so I'll really get started in March. And this way I'll be able

to clean out my kitchen more(dh was just eating cereal and ds walked

in and started crying for some.. Yeah, that doesn't help).

I know it won't be so bad once we get started on it. It's the getting

started part that is hard.

Oh, a question about the intro diet. Can he(we) have snacks while on

it? he eats all day(literally, all day) and on the intro diet, I

didn't know what to give him. DH is the same way. He wants to start

the diet too, but he eats literally all day long(they both have really

high metabolism) at work and said he would go hungry on the intro diet

too. And he needs it for at least 3-4 days. Any ideas? What would be

good snacks during that time?

Not eating the corn chips and rice, etc. has been the easy part for

me. I'm on the 2nd week of the South Beach Diet and don't even want

stuff like that anymore(though the chocolate cravings are killing me

the most). DS obviously is used to them and wants them. Monday night

at dinner time he layed kicking and banging his hands on the floor

while yelling " I want noodles!!! " He didn't get any, of course.

As for the increased appetite, I don't think that was the problem. The

only thing he ate y'day was 2 eggs for breakfast, a cupcake for snack

at preschool(I didn't know it was someones birthday. I will be taking

his own snacks when we really start the diet), 1 small block of grape

gelatin(that I made) and a small hamburger patty. That's not much for

him.

I just don't understand what I'm supposed to do when my already

under-weight 3 year old comes and says he's hungry. Make him go

hungry? I know the quantities are unlimited, but is that only at

mealtime, or can I give him that stuff for snacks too? I'm talking

during the intro part of the diet.

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh and rude and bitter in my original

message. I'm overwhelmed and confused and frustrated and, to be

honest, I was the same way when I started the South Beach Diet(the

first time last year).. LOL.. I guess I have a hard time w/change. I

will get used to it, it's just going to take some time and planning on

my part. And I think waiting until after we visit my parents would be

the best idea. I know, the sooner we start the better, but me

stressing about it really is not helping anyone.

Thanks again,

Janice and Cias-slow growth, constant illnesses, 10+ rounds of

antibiotics in 3 years, and behavioral issues.

>

> DS and I are slowly easing into the introductory diet from the BTVC

> book and for lunch today had a hamburger patty made on the

> Foreman grill and some gelatin squares. Neither of us ate it all,

> can't force down another bite of it, yet we're starving.

>

> He doesn't eat soup and I forgot to buy the stuff to make myself some.

> I ordered a yogurt maker that will be here on Thursday.

>

> Can we have snacks? We're both having a banana right now(never

> bothered him before).

>

> I'm not allowing any sugar or crackers, just fruits, veggies and

> whatever else is SCD legal.

>

> Any ideas? What I missing here? Am I not seeing something in the book

> that I should? This is a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.

> Please tell me it gets easier.. and that it's worth it!!!!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janice

>

[Guest guest]

Food intake on SCD is not limited.

I would figure out how many calories he needs and keep his intake near

that amount. If he is underweight, then give him a bit more.

But sometimes kids eat because they are bored or want the oral

stimulation. That's the point at which food has to be limited and the

behavior has to be redirected.

But given that your child is not a chronic overeater, then yes, feed

him when he is hungry. Feed him whatever is appropriate for him at

the time. So, on the intro diet, just feed him more of the intro diet

foods. For breakfast, lunch, dinner and all snacks. It may not seem

like a " snack " to eat a hamburger and jello, but it certainly won't

hurt him.

Once the food choices expand, his snacks may look more like what we

consider a snack to be. But in our house, they do not. I do not feed

cookies or muffins for " snacks " . I feed more " regular " food for

snacks. I pretty much keep cupcakes, muffins, cake and cookies for

special occasions. That allows the boys to feel like they are getting

a treat. If it is something they get all the time, then it is not

special.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03