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Toni,

To be able to help, we really need to know how you started the diet.

How long ago did you start the diet?

Did you start with the intro diet?

What is he eating now?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

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Hi Jody,I started this past Oct/2005 skipped the intro due to pickiness-would

not have soup or boiled fruit.Saw great results within two weeks,typically

hyperactivity first fiew days with discoloured stools.The problem began 3 weeks

ago,stomach aches,bowel movements went to every three days and went to other

extreme of being to soft(usually he always had hard stools, went to normal ones

for the most part before the change) decided to take away bananas and have seen

some improvement.Now he still complains about his stomach and am thinking the

apples(golden delicious) maybe aggrevating him.He is now on compounded nystatin

and probiotics. Now his diet consists of eggs (,no dairy.no yoghurt) meats,

brocolli and peas, raw peeled apples ,nut flour pancakes and very view

cookies(monster) he only drinks water and enjoys watermelon. Thats it for diet

he is picky and does not usually like things that are red or orange in colour He

has been on nystatin for just a week and I was not giving recommanded dose at

first because I was afraid that he was already having something major going

on(had a soft stool that looked like he had strains of fiberous looking stuff) I

am know giving him his regular dose. What concerned me the most was that he has

been complaining of stomach pains for some time now before he started meds.Also

he has returned to climbing and hitting me-things he had stopped doing when his

bowel movemnts first changed at the beginning of the diet.I have a feeling its

yeast but am not sure-what do I do? how do I take away the apples I am

suspecting that they are hurting him now.I was thinkiong it was time to have

NAET done to him.It is the guessing that is driving me crazy and I know I need

to calm down and find a way to help him with his discomfor.He is also drinking

alot more sincethe first marked improvemnts on the diet and is throwing things

around. I really do believe that all of these behaviours are tied into what has

changed in his body and obviously I am missing something,.I know I probably

sound all over the map Thanks for your response.Take care TONI Matteo almost 4

yrs,scd almost 4 months. Re: (OT)feeling lost

Toni,

To be able to help, we really need to know how you started the diet.

How long ago did you start the diet?

Did you start with the intro diet?

What is he eating now?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Jody,I started this past Oct/2005 skipped the intro due to pickiness-would

not have soup or boiled fruit.Saw great results within two weeks,typically

hyperactivity first fiew days with discoloured stools.The problem began 3 weeks

ago,stomach aches,bowel movements went to every three days and went to other

extreme of being to soft(usually he always had hard stools, went to normal ones

for the most part before the change) decided to take away bananas and have seen

some improvement.Now he still complains about his stomach and am thinking the

apples(golden delicious) maybe aggrevating him.He is now on compounded nystatin

and probiotics. Now his diet consists of eggs (,no dairy.no yoghurt) meats,

brocolli and peas, raw peeled apples ,nut flour pancakes and very view

cookies(monster) he only drinks water and enjoys watermelon. Thats it for diet

he is picky and does not usually like things that are red or orange in colour He

has been on nystatin for just a week and I was not giving recommanded dose at

first because I was afraid that he was already having something major going

on(had a soft stool that looked like he had strains of fiberous looking stuff) I

am know giving him his regular dose. What concerned me the most was that he has

been complaining of stomach pains for some time now before he started meds.Also

he has returned to climbing and hitting me-things he had stopped doing when his

bowel movemnts first changed at the beginning of the diet.I have a feeling its

yeast but am not sure-what do I do? how do I take away the apples I am

suspecting that they are hurting him now.I was thinkiong it was time to have

NAET done to him.It is the guessing that is driving me crazy and I know I need

to calm down and find a way to help him with his discomfor.He is also drinking

alot more sincethe first marked improvemnts on the diet and is throwing things

around. I really do believe that all of these behaviours are tied into what has

changed in his body and obviously I am missing something,.I know I probably

sound all over the map Thanks for your response.Take care TONI Matteo almost 4

yrs,scd almost 4 months. Re: (OT)feeling lost

Toni,

To be able to help, we really need to know how you started the diet.

How long ago did you start the diet?

Did you start with the intro diet?

What is he eating now?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Jody. nothing illegal hear he is in my care all the time with the exception

of the pre-school and they are a strict as i have asked them to be.I am

wondering if it's yeast? I just don't understand he was doing so well ,I figured

the regression would only be a couple of weeks.His bottom is really soar and

red. Thanks Jody

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Toni,

Is it possible that he might be eating non-SCD food some place?

School, a realitives, church, anywhere?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Jody. nothing illegal hear he is in my care all the time with the exception

of the pre-school and they are a strict as i have asked them to be.I am

wondering if it's yeast? I just don't understand he was doing so well ,I figured

the regression would only be a couple of weeks.His bottom is really soar and

red. Thanks Jody

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Toni,

Is it possible that he might be eating non-SCD food some place?

School, a realitives, church, anywhere?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Jody. nothing illegal hear he is in my care all the time with the exception

of the pre-school and they are a strict as i have asked them to be.I am

wondering if it's yeast? I just don't understand he was doing so well ,I figured

the regression would only be a couple of weeks.His bottom is really soar and

red. Thanks Jody

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Toni,

Is it possible that he might be eating non-SCD food some place?

School, a realitives, church, anywhere?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Toni! It's just me...I just read this and I was thinking. Those are

definitely strong signs of fungus in the body. Perhaps bacteria as well.

Along with the nystatin you can also try tea tree oil (ointment or liquid

but dilute it before applying to the anus). Pau D'Arco is a liquid extract

herb for fungus that I have been rubbing on the soles of Lucas' feet this

past week. I get it at Fine Herbs at a distributer price. You can also

take it internally, but for Lucas it is easier this way. Also, try to cut

back on all sugars as much as possible-honey, bananas, any sweet fruits. I

know it's not easy. For apples use Granny - they are more tart, not

as much sugar. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Love Anita

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: (OT)feeling lost

>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:32:51 -0000

>

>Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my son

>is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book out

>there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's been

>31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always complaining

>about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

>abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

>getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look for

>when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he is

>now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he has

>picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

>coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

>point. Toni

>

>

>

>

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Hi Toni! It's just me...I just read this and I was thinking. Those are

definitely strong signs of fungus in the body. Perhaps bacteria as well.

Along with the nystatin you can also try tea tree oil (ointment or liquid

but dilute it before applying to the anus). Pau D'Arco is a liquid extract

herb for fungus that I have been rubbing on the soles of Lucas' feet this

past week. I get it at Fine Herbs at a distributer price. You can also

take it internally, but for Lucas it is easier this way. Also, try to cut

back on all sugars as much as possible-honey, bananas, any sweet fruits. I

know it's not easy. For apples use Granny - they are more tart, not

as much sugar. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Love Anita

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: (OT)feeling lost

>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:32:51 -0000

>

>Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my son

>is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book out

>there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's been

>31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always complaining

>about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

>abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

>getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look for

>when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he is

>now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he has

>picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

>coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

>point. Toni

>

>

>

>

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Hi Toni! It's just me...I just read this and I was thinking. Those are

definitely strong signs of fungus in the body. Perhaps bacteria as well.

Along with the nystatin you can also try tea tree oil (ointment or liquid

but dilute it before applying to the anus). Pau D'Arco is a liquid extract

herb for fungus that I have been rubbing on the soles of Lucas' feet this

past week. I get it at Fine Herbs at a distributer price. You can also

take it internally, but for Lucas it is easier this way. Also, try to cut

back on all sugars as much as possible-honey, bananas, any sweet fruits. I

know it's not easy. For apples use Granny - they are more tart, not

as much sugar. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Love Anita

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: (OT)feeling lost

>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:32:51 -0000

>

>Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my son

>is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book out

>there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's been

>31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always complaining

>about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

>abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

>getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look for

>when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he is

>now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he has

>picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

>coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

>point. Toni

>

>

>

>

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Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

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Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

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Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

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Thank you Sandy for that information I will definitly look into it.Lately I have

been buying all the books needed to help me sort out all the info I have been

reading about AUTISM. Much appreciate the response .Toni

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Thank you Sandy for that information I will definitly look into it.Lately I have

been buying all the books needed to help me sort out all the info I have been

reading about AUTISM. Much appreciate the response .Toni

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Thank you Sandy for that information I will definitly look into it.Lately I have

been buying all the books needed to help me sort out all the info I have been

reading about AUTISM. Much appreciate the response .Toni

Re: (OT)feeling lost

Dear Toni,

I'm not an expert - but I guess most of us are fairly new at this.

I found the big DAN book an invalueable reference. It has told us so

much about diet, infections, die-off, treatment and supplements.

It's hard as a read - but as a reference text has served us very well

indeed. It includes a very well-written summary on SCD and a

description of some regressions that have been encountered by the

first set of children trying the diet. See the link below (I've

pasted the details too).

From your email it looked like you were doing many good things -

we've encountered die off several times. Again this is covered in

the book - especially about yeast.

Hope this helps somehow.

Best wishes

Sandy

Mum to Eddie 2yrs 3 months (Early Onset Autism - SCD 5+ months)

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ARI/pub/pubs.htm

REVISED AND UPDATED! B-134. Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments,

by Jon B. Pangborn, Ph.D. and Sidney M. Baker, M.D., with an

introduction by Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. This October 2005 version of

the DAN! Clinical Options Manual replaces the previous editions that

have revolutionized the biomedical approach to the diagnosis and

treatment of autism, PDD and related disorders. Paperback (includes

index). ($30.00)

>

> Hi ,I have written a fiew times about regression.I am assuming my

son

> is going thru his first one since being on the diet.Is there a book

out

> there that talks about the road to recovery using the diet.It's

been

> 31/2 weeks of bad behaviours coming back and he is always

complaining

> about his stomach.He has an itchy anus(red) and touches his front

> abdomin alot.His stools have gone back to every three days-they are

> getting less mushy.I need encouragement and info about what to look

for

> when these symptoms arise.Went to a DAN docter had no tests but he

is

> now on nystatin-compounded. Although he remembers all the data he

has

> picked up with improvements on SCD,his behaviours,agrevation is all

> coming back.I feel like I am always guessing.Need direction at this

> point. Toni

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi Anita,

> Pau D'Arco is a liquid extract

> herb for fungus that I have been rubbing on the soles of Lucas' feet

this

> past week....You can also

> take it internally, but for Lucas it is easier this way.

Pau D'Arco taken internally is SCD illegal, so rubbing on the soles of

the feet is a good alternative.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan

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