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In a message dated 3/15/2002 2:04:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jonesbridget2002@... writes:

> I presume many of you have skin like mine. If I run my fingers across it it

> feels like bumpy sandpaper.

>

> I havent met anyone else with skin texture like mine. I do have tiny tiny

> little acne bumps that aren't really visable all over my skin. i really

> want to get smooth skin again- well smoother. Has anyone who has tried

> accutane been able to restore their texture?

>

Have you tried a/r creme. It really helped me with the " orange-peel "

texture. In my opinion, that type of texture is an inflammatory response.

The a/r creme really helps take care of this for me.

~~~Beth~~~

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Your experience echoed mine. I was using Almay

Amazing Lasting foundation. It did not irritate (I

thought), but it did dry out the top layer of my skin.

And, the surface of my skin was not smooth. I had

those little bumps that didn't show, but you could

feel. I would alternate using it with a Lancome

foundation. Neither foundation was perfect, but they

seemed to be the only two that I could tolerate.

Almost a week ago, I tried BeautiControl. I am using

their Sensitive Skin line of cleanser, toner, etc.

Also, I am wearing their " freeze " foundation. The

little bumps are gone. In less than a week, the

surface of my face is much smoother. The redness has

faded some, but I do still have flares throughout the

day. I'm having to work to keep the foundation from

melting off, though. I've begun to leave the oil-free

moisturizer off during the day, which seems to help.

I've stopped using the Metrogel. I only use the

BeautiControl products and can see and feel a definite

improvement in the texture of my skin. I just hope I

can make the foundation work. My skin is extremely

oily and I have a hard time keeping foundation from

melting off by noon. It doesn't help that I work in

front of a computer 9 hours a day.

--- " carrie i. " carriei@...> wrote:

> hello,

>

> > > I presume many of you have skin like mine. If

> > I run my fingers across it it

> > > feels like bumpy sandpaper.

>

> mine is like that in the center of my cheeks

> where i have spider veins always.

>

> right at this moment i have sandpapery bumps all

> over my cheeks and just this morning i sadly

> decided for sure that it is a result of a

> foundation i've been wearing for over a month

> now.

>

> i was so thrilled to have found this foundation

> because it does not sting a bit or cause little

> itchy red breakouts. i have not even tried to

> wear a foundation for years because they have

> always bothered my skin.

>

> anyway, as i've had my skin for years, my

> instinct also tells me that these little bumps

> are some sort of inflammatory reaction *against*

> something in alot of cosmetic products. what i

> don't know really......heavy oils are a problem,

> and i'm wondering if it's preservatives in makeup

> and creams??? my facial skin doesn't seem to like

> anything on it at all really.

>

> a last random comment, this foundation i've been

> using also dries out the top layer of my skin

> incredibly and now after a month or so, even my

> moisturizer isn't correcting the problem.

> i wonder if these bumps are part of a result from

> a very dry top layer?

>

> i dont tend to go to derms because they usually

> hand out product recs that absolutely do not work

> for my finicky skin!

>

> any other thoughts from the group?

>

> carrie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Your experience echoed mine. I was using Almay

Amazing Lasting foundation. It did not irritate (I

thought), but it did dry out the top layer of my skin.

And, the surface of my skin was not smooth. I had

those little bumps that didn't show, but you could

feel. I would alternate using it with a Lancome

foundation. Neither foundation was perfect, but they

seemed to be the only two that I could tolerate.

Almost a week ago, I tried BeautiControl. I am using

their Sensitive Skin line of cleanser, toner, etc.

Also, I am wearing their " freeze " foundation. The

little bumps are gone. In less than a week, the

surface of my face is much smoother. The redness has

faded some, but I do still have flares throughout the

day. I'm having to work to keep the foundation from

melting off, though. I've begun to leave the oil-free

moisturizer off during the day, which seems to help.

I've stopped using the Metrogel. I only use the

BeautiControl products and can see and feel a definite

improvement in the texture of my skin. I just hope I

can make the foundation work. My skin is extremely

oily and I have a hard time keeping foundation from

melting off by noon. It doesn't help that I work in

front of a computer 9 hours a day.

--- " carrie i. " carriei@...> wrote:

> hello,

>

> > > I presume many of you have skin like mine. If

> > I run my fingers across it it

> > > feels like bumpy sandpaper.

>

> mine is like that in the center of my cheeks

> where i have spider veins always.

>

> right at this moment i have sandpapery bumps all

> over my cheeks and just this morning i sadly

> decided for sure that it is a result of a

> foundation i've been wearing for over a month

> now.

>

> i was so thrilled to have found this foundation

> because it does not sting a bit or cause little

> itchy red breakouts. i have not even tried to

> wear a foundation for years because they have

> always bothered my skin.

>

> anyway, as i've had my skin for years, my

> instinct also tells me that these little bumps

> are some sort of inflammatory reaction *against*

> something in alot of cosmetic products. what i

> don't know really......heavy oils are a problem,

> and i'm wondering if it's preservatives in makeup

> and creams??? my facial skin doesn't seem to like

> anything on it at all really.

>

> a last random comment, this foundation i've been

> using also dries out the top layer of my skin

> incredibly and now after a month or so, even my

> moisturizer isn't correcting the problem.

> i wonder if these bumps are part of a result from

> a very dry top layer?

>

> i dont tend to go to derms because they usually

> hand out product recs that absolutely do not work

> for my finicky skin!

>

> any other thoughts from the group?

>

> carrie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Your experience echoed mine. I was using Almay

Amazing Lasting foundation. It did not irritate (I

thought), but it did dry out the top layer of my skin.

And, the surface of my skin was not smooth. I had

those little bumps that didn't show, but you could

feel. I would alternate using it with a Lancome

foundation. Neither foundation was perfect, but they

seemed to be the only two that I could tolerate.

Almost a week ago, I tried BeautiControl. I am using

their Sensitive Skin line of cleanser, toner, etc.

Also, I am wearing their " freeze " foundation. The

little bumps are gone. In less than a week, the

surface of my face is much smoother. The redness has

faded some, but I do still have flares throughout the

day. I'm having to work to keep the foundation from

melting off, though. I've begun to leave the oil-free

moisturizer off during the day, which seems to help.

I've stopped using the Metrogel. I only use the

BeautiControl products and can see and feel a definite

improvement in the texture of my skin. I just hope I

can make the foundation work. My skin is extremely

oily and I have a hard time keeping foundation from

melting off by noon. It doesn't help that I work in

front of a computer 9 hours a day.

--- " carrie i. " carriei@...> wrote:

> hello,

>

> > > I presume many of you have skin like mine. If

> > I run my fingers across it it

> > > feels like bumpy sandpaper.

>

> mine is like that in the center of my cheeks

> where i have spider veins always.

>

> right at this moment i have sandpapery bumps all

> over my cheeks and just this morning i sadly

> decided for sure that it is a result of a

> foundation i've been wearing for over a month

> now.

>

> i was so thrilled to have found this foundation

> because it does not sting a bit or cause little

> itchy red breakouts. i have not even tried to

> wear a foundation for years because they have

> always bothered my skin.

>

> anyway, as i've had my skin for years, my

> instinct also tells me that these little bumps

> are some sort of inflammatory reaction *against*

> something in alot of cosmetic products. what i

> don't know really......heavy oils are a problem,

> and i'm wondering if it's preservatives in makeup

> and creams??? my facial skin doesn't seem to like

> anything on it at all really.

>

> a last random comment, this foundation i've been

> using also dries out the top layer of my skin

> incredibly and now after a month or so, even my

> moisturizer isn't correcting the problem.

> i wonder if these bumps are part of a result from

> a very dry top layer?

>

> i dont tend to go to derms because they usually

> hand out product recs that absolutely do not work

> for my finicky skin!

>

> any other thoughts from the group?

>

> carrie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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> thanks for the thoughtful response. if you don't

> mind, one other question...why is it exactly that

> some skin reactions take so long to manifest?

You're welcome, . I don't know, but it's a well described

phenomenon. Some textbooks say skin reactions can occur not just

after weeks, but months.

Some guesses: the inflammation may at first be subtle (subclinical)

and require repeat applications to fully manifest; the skin may

develop a sensitivity to a component over repeated exposures;

intracellularly, an absorbed ingredient may not be efficiently

cleared and so it gradually builds up over time; a new harmless

ingredient may synergize with or potentiate an otherwise benign,

familiar ingredient...

Does anyone know the answer?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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> thanks for the thoughtful response. if you don't

> mind, one other question...why is it exactly that

> some skin reactions take so long to manifest?

You're welcome, . I don't know, but it's a well described

phenomenon. Some textbooks say skin reactions can occur not just

after weeks, but months.

Some guesses: the inflammation may at first be subtle (subclinical)

and require repeat applications to fully manifest; the skin may

develop a sensitivity to a component over repeated exposures;

intracellularly, an absorbed ingredient may not be efficiently

cleared and so it gradually builds up over time; a new harmless

ingredient may synergize with or potentiate an otherwise benign,

familiar ingredient...

Does anyone know the answer?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Where can I find BeautiControl ?

//Kajsa

--- Holmes sandrak71241@...> skrev: >

Your experience echoed mine. I was using Almay

> Amazing Lasting foundation. It did not irritate (I

> thought), but it did dry out the top layer of my

> skin.

> And, the surface of my skin was not smooth. I had

> those little bumps that didn't show, but you could

> feel. I would alternate using it with a Lancome

> foundation. Neither foundation was perfect, but

> they

> seemed to be the only two that I could tolerate.

> Almost a week ago, I tried BeautiControl. I am

> using

> their Sensitive Skin line of cleanser, toner, etc.

> Also, I am wearing their " freeze " foundation. The

> little bumps are gone. In less than a week, the

> surface of my face is much smoother. The redness

> has

> faded some, but I do still have flares throughout

> the

> day. I'm having to work to keep the foundation from

> melting off, though. I've begun to leave the

> oil-free

> moisturizer off during the day, which seems to help.

>

> I've stopped using the Metrogel. I only use the

> BeautiControl products and can see and feel a

> definite

> improvement in the texture of my skin. I just hope

> I

> can make the foundation work. My skin is extremely

> oily and I have a hard time keeping foundation from

> melting off by noon. It doesn't help that I work in

> front of a computer 9 hours a day.

>

>

>

> --- " carrie i. " carriei@...> wrote:

> > hello,

> >

> > > > I presume many of you have skin like mine. If

> > > I run my fingers across it it

> > > > feels like bumpy sandpaper.

> >

> > mine is like that in the center of my cheeks

> > where i have spider veins always.

> >

> > right at this moment i have sandpapery bumps all

> > over my cheeks and just this morning i sadly

> > decided for sure that it is a result of a

> > foundation i've been wearing for over a month

> > now.

> >

> > i was so thrilled to have found this foundation

> > because it does not sting a bit or cause little

> > itchy red breakouts. i have not even tried to

> > wear a foundation for years because they have

> > always bothered my skin.

> >

> > anyway, as i've had my skin for years, my

> > instinct also tells me that these little bumps

> > are some sort of inflammatory reaction *against*

> > something in alot of cosmetic products. what i

> > don't know really......heavy oils are a problem,

> > and i'm wondering if it's preservatives in makeup

> > and creams??? my facial skin doesn't seem to like

> > anything on it at all really.

> >

> > a last random comment, this foundation i've been

> > using also dries out the top layer of my skin

> > incredibly and now after a month or so, even my

> > moisturizer isn't correcting the problem.

> > i wonder if these bumps are part of a result from

> > a very dry top layer?

> >

> > i dont tend to go to derms because they usually

> > hand out product recs that absolutely do not work

> > for my finicky skin!

> >

> > any other thoughts from the group?

> >

> > carrie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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