Re: Gassy on intro diet - what to do??

February 18, 2006

Have you tried using the no phenols or other enzymes digestive enzymes to expand

your childs diet at autismcoach.com there are specific enzymes that you can add

while on the SCD diet that are geared for this scd diet and increasing your sons

food possibilities this may help some with the gas.Have you tried any other

products probiotics,colostrum,Peptizyde,zyme prime. My son cannot handle phenols

when I feed him a apple he gets dark circles under his eyes so I have added the

no phenol powder with the apples and know he can get apples. I love the SCD diet

it is targeted against repairing the gut but you may also need to add extra help

to increase foods in your sons diet.Not enough fiber can cause the intestine

line to be more permeability and to much can cause constipation.Fruits and

vegetables are good for constipation if your child is not allergic and if they

are you can give then anyway by adding no phenols or the proper enzyme for

instance Peptizyde is a enzyme blend to completely

digest gluten and casean. My son gets gassy alot and its usually from to much

fiber and constipation or from not enough fruits and vegetables in his diet. Im

sure him not making the proper enzymes with his body naturally is causing some

gas.And of course it can be from bacteria and yeast die off and thats a good

sign. Hang in there .

I found a test on the internet where we can order are own test to measure

bacteria and yeast overgrowth and monitor are kids progress, I ordered one and

will let you know how it turns out. www.crohns.net

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

We're into our second day on the intro diet and ds is very gassy - he's

eating spinach, beef, applesauce, diluted home-made apple juice. These

are some of the only foods he is not allergic to that are suggested for

the intro diet level. (The others are zucchini and pear and lamb, we're

saving those for days 3 & 4, since we must rotate foods every 2 days).

Should I presume that one (or more) of these foods doesn't agree with

him? If so, what's my next step? Pull out one food at a time to find

out what is the problem? My concern is that this could take a day or

more, and I don't want to keep him on such a limited diet for so long.

I was hoping to be able to add foods by the 3rd or 4th day.

I'm sorry to have so many questions - it's hard to figure out how to do

the intro diet with a child who has such few food choices.

Advice please!

Suzanne

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

February 20, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> We're into our second day on the intro diet and ds is very gassy -

he's

> eating spinach, beef, applesauce, diluted home-made apple juice.

Sometime gas is a die off symptom. If he ate these foods preSCD and

didn't have gas then die off is the most likely cause.

If he did not normally eat one of them (apple?) then that could be

causing the gas or it could still be die off.

How is he today?

Sheila, SCD 59 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of and

February 20, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> We're into our second day on the intro diet and ds is very gassy -

he's

> eating spinach, beef, applesauce, diluted home-made apple juice.

Sometime gas is a die off symptom. If he ate these foods preSCD and

didn't have gas then die off is the most likely cause.

If he did not normally eat one of them (apple?) then that could be

causing the gas or it could still be die off.

How is he today?

Sheila, SCD 59 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of and

February 20, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> We're into our second day on the intro diet and ds is very gassy -

he's

> eating spinach, beef, applesauce, diluted home-made apple juice.

Sometime gas is a die off symptom. If he ate these foods preSCD and

didn't have gas then die off is the most likely cause.

If he did not normally eat one of them (apple?) then that could be

causing the gas or it could still be die off.

How is he today?

Sheila, SCD 59 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of and

February 20, 2006

He ate spinach on a two-day rotation previously, but never as a

mainstay of his diet. Now he's eating a 1/2 cup at every meal. Apples

are also suspect, he's had an apple allergy in the past and we never

gave it to him more than once a day. On the intro diet he's eating it

at every meal, just because we don't have very many foods to choose

from. His eczema is also flared, which leads me to beleive he's

having al allergic reaction - probably to the apples. Yesterday we

rotated to lamb, pears and zucchini (to which he has a mild allergy),

and the gas seems to have cleared up.

It's been very hard to find allergy-safe foods that are SCD-legal; he

only tolerates about a dozen foods total due to IgE allergies, and

most of those safe veggies are cabbages or root vegetables like

rutabagas that are typically recommended on SCD for when the gut is

more healed. We eliminated disaccharides a month ago, but deciding on

which foods to use for the introductory stage of the diet has been

difficult. In our case, it's hopefully the right choice of the lesser

evils.

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> > We're into our second day on the intro diet and ds is very gassy -

> he's

> > eating spinach, beef, applesauce, diluted home-made apple juice.

>

> Sometime gas is a die off symptom. If he ate these foods preSCD

and

> didn't have gas then die off is the most likely cause.

>

> If he did not normally eat one of them (apple?) then that could be

> causing the gas or it could still be die off.

>

> How is he today?

>

> Sheila, SCD 59 mos, 22 yrs UC

> mom of and

>

February 20, 2006