Re: Need advice: Sudden constipation, blood in stool

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

>

> Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding.

They

> have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously straining.

We

> finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it was

a

> solid log of little pellets,

The pellets sound like constipation.

with some bright red blood right at the

> end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to be

> inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also

some

> mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

>

> Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining?

It is possible it was from a fizzure but since the blood is in the

stool it may be more. Talk to the DAN doctor on Monday and watch

him in the meantime. An epsom salt bath may help ease discomfort if

there is an fissure near the anus.

I can't recall if Tom's food rotation was for known allergies or

suspected allergies. (I serched the files but couldn't find an

answer) I was thinking if there were some easier to digest food

choices for him that it may ease the constipation and give his gut a

better chance at healing faster.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

>

> Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding.

They

> have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously straining.

We

> finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it was

a

> solid log of little pellets,

The pellets sound like constipation.

with some bright red blood right at the

> end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to be

> inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also

some

> mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

>

> Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining?

It is possible it was from a fizzure but since the blood is in the

stool it may be more. Talk to the DAN doctor on Monday and watch

him in the meantime. An epsom salt bath may help ease discomfort if

there is an fissure near the anus.

I can't recall if Tom's food rotation was for known allergies or

suspected allergies. (I serched the files but couldn't find an

answer) I was thinking if there were some easier to digest food

choices for him that it may ease the constipation and give his gut a

better chance at healing faster.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

He was straining for a long time. I thought it was most likely a

fissure, but seeing blood on the inside of the stool made me wonder

about that.

We don't really have choices about his foods, we need to stick to

his allergy rotation diet. That part stinks. Today and tomorrow his

diet is elk, brussel sprouts and beets. I am not so wild about the

beets, they make his poops hard and red. But hopefully the brussel

sprouts, if I puree them, will be easier for him to digest and a

source of some calories. I have decided to puree as much of his food

as I can to make it easier to digest.

His food avoidances are for established allergies. All his IgE

vegetable and fruit allergies have been confirmed with positive

tests. ANd when we do a challenge, we are pretty good at connecting

his eczema reactions to the challenged foods. We tried fruit briefly

2 weeks ago, but had to remove it when he had allergic reactions.

I'll call the DAN! on Monday. I'm going to watch him closely til

then.

Thanks!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> >

> > Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding.

> They

> > have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> > morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously

straining.

> We

> > finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it

was

> a

> > solid log of little pellets,

>

> The pellets sound like constipation.

>

> with some bright red blood right at the

> > end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to

be

> > inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also

> some

> > mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

> >

> > Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining?

>

> It is possible it was from a fizzure but since the blood is in the

> stool it may be more. Talk to the DAN doctor on Monday and watch

> him in the meantime. An epsom salt bath may help ease discomfort

if

> there is an fissure near the anus.

>

> I can't recall if Tom's food rotation was for known allergies or

> suspected allergies. (I serched the files but couldn't find an

> answer) I was thinking if there were some easier to digest food

> choices for him that it may ease the constipation and give his gut

a

> better chance at healing faster.

>

> Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Beets naturally have nitrates in them, and it is possible, since the body has to

work harder had to eliminate them, this is causing irritation. Nitrates in any

form are very difficult for my own children to handle, they get all kinds of

digestive upsets.

If you must use the beets anyway, I believe I read on another forum that

boiling them for extra long helps remove some of the excess.

I don't know if I am right on this, I just thought I would mention it just in

case.

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

He was straining for a long time. I thought it was most likely a

fissure, but seeing blood on the inside of the stool made me wonder

about that.

We don't really have choices about his foods, we need to stick to

his allergy rotation diet. That part stinks. Today and tomorrow his

diet is elk, brussel sprouts and beets. I am not so wild about the

beets, they make his poops hard and red. But hopefully the brussel

sprouts, if I puree them, will be easier for him to digest and a

source of some calories. I have decided to puree as much of his food

as I can to make it easier to digest.

His food avoidances are for established allergies. All his IgE

vegetable and fruit allergies have been confirmed with positive

tests. ANd when we do a challenge, we are pretty good at connecting

his eczema reactions to the challenged foods. We tried fruit briefly

2 weeks ago, but had to remove it when he had allergic reactions.

I'll call the DAN! on Monday. I'm going to watch him closely til

then.

Thanks!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> >

> > Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding.

> They

> > have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> > morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously

straining.

> We

> > finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it

was

> a

> > solid log of little pellets,

>

> The pellets sound like constipation.

>

> with some bright red blood right at the

> > end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to

be

> > inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also

> some

> > mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

> >

> > Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining?

>

> It is possible it was from a fizzure but since the blood is in the

> stool it may be more. Talk to the DAN doctor on Monday and watch

> him in the meantime. An epsom salt bath may help ease discomfort

if

> there is an fissure near the anus.

>

> I can't recall if Tom's food rotation was for known allergies or

> suspected allergies. (I serched the files but couldn't find an

> answer) I was thinking if there were some easier to digest food

> choices for him that it may ease the constipation and give his gut

a

> better chance at healing faster.

>

> Sheila

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Beets naturally have nitrates in them, and it is possible, since the body has to

work harder had to eliminate them, this is causing irritation. Nitrates in any

form are very difficult for my own children to handle, they get all kinds of

digestive upsets.

If you must use the beets anyway, I believe I read on another forum that

boiling them for extra long helps remove some of the excess.

I don't know if I am right on this, I just thought I would mention it just in

case.

Summer

Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote:

He was straining for a long time. I thought it was most likely a

fissure, but seeing blood on the inside of the stool made me wonder

about that.

We don't really have choices about his foods, we need to stick to

his allergy rotation diet. That part stinks. Today and tomorrow his

diet is elk, brussel sprouts and beets. I am not so wild about the

beets, they make his poops hard and red. But hopefully the brussel

sprouts, if I puree them, will be easier for him to digest and a

source of some calories. I have decided to puree as much of his food

as I can to make it easier to digest.

His food avoidances are for established allergies. All his IgE

vegetable and fruit allergies have been confirmed with positive

tests. ANd when we do a challenge, we are pretty good at connecting

his eczema reactions to the challenged foods. We tried fruit briefly

2 weeks ago, but had to remove it when he had allergic reactions.

I'll call the DAN! on Monday. I'm going to watch him closely til

then.

Thanks!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> >

> > Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding.

> They

> > have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> > morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously

straining.

> We

> > finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it

was

> a

> > solid log of little pellets,

>

> The pellets sound like constipation.

>

> with some bright red blood right at the

> > end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to

be

> > inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also

> some

> > mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

> >

> > Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining?

>

> It is possible it was from a fizzure but since the blood is in the

> stool it may be more. Talk to the DAN doctor on Monday and watch

> him in the meantime. An epsom salt bath may help ease discomfort

if

> there is an fissure near the anus.

>

> I can't recall if Tom's food rotation was for known allergies or

> suspected allergies. (I serched the files but couldn't find an

> answer) I was thinking if there were some easier to digest food

> choices for him that it may ease the constipation and give his gut

a

> better chance at healing faster.

>

> Sheila

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

>

> Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding. They

> have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously straining. We

> finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it was a

> solid log of little pellets, with some bright red blood right at the

> end where the suppository was stuck in it.

Try a few days without beets and see if the stool is no longer bloody. I have

the bloody

look when eating beets.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

>

> Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding. They

> have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously straining. We

> finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it was a

> solid log of little pellets, with some bright red blood right at the

> end where the suppository was stuck in it.

Try a few days without beets and see if the stool is no longer bloody. I have

the bloody

look when eating beets.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

>

> Tom is 20 days SCD, and before SCD his poops were mushy pudding. They

> have slowly become more formed, but were still quite soft. This

> morning he cried when trying to poop, and was obviously straining. We

> finally gave him a suppository, and when the poop came out, it was a

> solid log of little pellets, with some bright red blood right at the

> end where the suppository was stuck in it. The blood seemed to be

> inside the stool, not just on the outside part. There was also some

> mucous, which we've seen more of in the past week.

>

> Was this likely to be from just a small fissure from straining? Should

> I be concerned? What should we do? I cannot add any more foods to his

> diet and I am hesitant to really take any away, his diet is too

> limited already. He's only eating one or two vegetables and a meat and

> an oil at a time (we rotate).

>

> Since we started the SCD his poops have gradually gotten a little bit

> formed, but they are still quite muchy and soft most of the time.

> Since he eats so few foods, his poops take on the consistency of the

> vegetable he's eating - if he's eating beets, they are slippery,

> densem reddish pellety logs; i

The medical term for the passage of red or maroon colored stools is

" hematochezia. "

T " False " hematochezia

Several different types of food with natural or artificial coloring may cause

red colored

stools, which looks like hematochezia. These can include:

tomato juice or soup

large amounts beets

A physician should be consulted immediately if red or maroon colored stools can

not be

attributed to a benign cause such as a food.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac