Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 tanning is bad for rosacea. there are no exceptions. do not tan, it will only be bad. get over your desire for tanning, or use a fake tanning lotion. uv has some applications for psoriasis, but NONE for rosacea. none at all. it will worsen the underlying vascular disease and cause comedones to form. as an added bonus, your risk for skin cancer will be increased and YOU WILL PHOTOAGE. > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 tanning is bad for rosacea. there are no exceptions. do not tan, it will only be bad. get over your desire for tanning, or use a fake tanning lotion. uv has some applications for psoriasis, but NONE for rosacea. none at all. it will worsen the underlying vascular disease and cause comedones to form. as an added bonus, your risk for skin cancer will be increased and YOU WILL PHOTOAGE. > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 tanning is bad for rosacea. there are no exceptions. do not tan, it will only be bad. get over your desire for tanning, or use a fake tanning lotion. uv has some applications for psoriasis, but NONE for rosacea. none at all. it will worsen the underlying vascular disease and cause comedones to form. as an added bonus, your risk for skin cancer will be increased and YOU WILL PHOTOAGE. > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 this is from an old post from last year. I keep meaning to check this out, but I havrn't yet. Becky > >This info is some of the best I've read since joining >our group a while back. The only problem is, I've >searched everywhere and can't seem to find anyone or >any company that is actually selling the " melanotan " >described in all the research, etc. Can anyone tell >us where we can actually buy this product? >Thanks! >Mark >--- nightrun2200@... wrote: >>Ive posted this info before but I will again because >>I think it could >>greatly help those of us that have sun damage >>rosacea,these two site >>discuss some upcoming tanning products that will tan >>you naturally >>without the sun!!!! Not dha tanners or bogus tanning >>pills ,a real >>tan no sun!!!!!check them out we need support >>www.melanotan.does.it and the other one is >> >http://pub48.ezboard.com/fsafetanningwithoutsunorselftannersfrm1 >>i mean these applications would tan you no sun !!!! >>I think a dark >>tan would greatly reduce rosacea,protect our >>skin,camoflauge redness >>I mean all kinds of benefits can come from them,on >>mysite I discuss >>melanotan the product epitan is developing in >>australia,read through >>the posts,you will find lots of good info,I mean >>photoderm helped >>reduce my redness but ,if i go in the sun its gonna >>come back and i >>hate being pale >> >> >> >>-- > >To: rosacea-support >Subject: Tanning >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 00:36:56 -0500 > >I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no-no for >rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize >the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was >thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt >would be the best approach. > >P.S. As far as goes sunless tanners go, forget it. I really react to >them plus it just doesnt look good. > > > >-- >Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group >(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't >give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the >subject when replying to a digest ! > >See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > >To leave the list send an email to >rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I was told by my doctor to be in the sun some because it cleared up my little bumps. I have been diagnosed with cea...and I use Metrogel, but for me sun works the best. I don't do the tanning bed....and I do have pretty dark skin.... i only get flare ups when I drink alcohol or am really stressed...however I have little bumps on my cheeks all the time.... and the sun clears it up.... but this is just my experience.... i'm not recommending it to anyone.... cea is different for everyone. Jaala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I was told by my doctor to be in the sun some because it cleared up my little bumps. I have been diagnosed with cea...and I use Metrogel, but for me sun works the best. I don't do the tanning bed....and I do have pretty dark skin.... i only get flare ups when I drink alcohol or am really stressed...however I have little bumps on my cheeks all the time.... and the sun clears it up.... but this is just my experience.... i'm not recommending it to anyone.... cea is different for everyone. Jaala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I was told by my doctor to be in the sun some because it cleared up my little bumps. I have been diagnosed with cea...and I use Metrogel, but for me sun works the best. I don't do the tanning bed....and I do have pretty dark skin.... i only get flare ups when I drink alcohol or am really stressed...however I have little bumps on my cheeks all the time.... and the sun clears it up.... but this is just my experience.... i'm not recommending it to anyone.... cea is different for everyone. Jaala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 a quick and easy way to get a 'tan': dust a little bronzing powder across your face. stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 a quick and easy way to get a 'tan': dust a little bronzing powder across your face. stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- no for > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to minimize > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get burnt > would be the best approach. That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even without a skin disorder. My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be able to safely tan. It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but burn, baby, burn ). Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I'm with you . Who in the world is saying sun can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. Yikes! What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they come up with the worst possible advice. When it comes to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good idea for anyone. Yikes again! --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> wrote: > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. > However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock > is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " > the rosacea, though each person is different, I have > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say > that you can't enjoy activites that involve being > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > least put some sunblock on. In my experience even > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in > the sun without sunblock) is something that should > ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > summer long and people are constantly amazed when I > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, > this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay > away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there > anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making > sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, > . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how > best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't > believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan > if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, > you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various > sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. > For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is > very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without > sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to > do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I'm with you . Who in the world is saying sun can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. Yikes! What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they come up with the worst possible advice. When it comes to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good idea for anyone. Yikes again! --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> wrote: > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. > However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock > is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " > the rosacea, though each person is different, I have > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say > that you can't enjoy activites that involve being > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > least put some sunblock on. In my experience even > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in > the sun without sunblock) is something that should > ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > summer long and people are constantly amazed when I > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, > this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay > away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there > anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making > sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, > . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how > best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't > believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan > if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, > you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various > sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. > For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is > very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without > sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to > do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I'm with you . Who in the world is saying sun can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. Yikes! What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they come up with the worst possible advice. When it comes to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good idea for anyone. Yikes again! --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> wrote: > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. > However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock > is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " > the rosacea, though each person is different, I have > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say > that you can't enjoy activites that involve being > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > least put some sunblock on. In my experience even > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in > the sun without sunblock) is something that should > ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > summer long and people are constantly amazed when I > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, > this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay > away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there > anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making > sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, > . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how > best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't > believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan > if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, > you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various > sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. > For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is > very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without > sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to > do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Well if you're off your rocker then so am I! I saw on a show once that the cast of Bay Watch uses self-tanning products to get their bronze color. They all look great too. What self-tanner do you currently use? I know they've come a long way, thankfully, from the old Coppertone " Q-T " which turned some people (including me) a yellowish tint. All my friends used to use it too, and it was very funny when one of them would show up at work with their newly tanned face. I'll try a hidden spot on my upper thigh for starters, thank you very much. ;-) With any luck I'll look so good I'll also be able to convince my son & future daughter-in-law to stop going to tanning salons! ~ It's got to be cheaper too, right? ~Jan > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Well if you're off your rocker then so am I! I saw on a show once that the cast of Bay Watch uses self-tanning products to get their bronze color. They all look great too. What self-tanner do you currently use? I know they've come a long way, thankfully, from the old Coppertone " Q-T " which turned some people (including me) a yellowish tint. All my friends used to use it too, and it was very funny when one of them would show up at work with their newly tanned face. I'll try a hidden spot on my upper thigh for starters, thank you very much. ;-) With any luck I'll look so good I'll also be able to convince my son & future daughter-in-law to stop going to tanning salons! ~ It's got to be cheaper too, right? ~Jan > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 , just because you, or some, or even most rosaceans are sensitive to the sun doesn't mean that's true for every rosacean. For example, when my rosacea is quiescent my skin reacts favorably to the sun. The use of sunscreen/block is a complicated controversy because scientists don't fully understand why there's been an increase in skin cancer. A few scientist posit that the increased use of sunscreen may be responsible, others believe the increase cancer is unrelated to sunscreen/block. But most scientists recommend at least a sunblock, and do believe it's healthier to protect oneself from the sun. And I've not heard any controversy regarding the negative effects of the sun on skin aging -- wrinkles and such. But it sounds like we agree: what I described as safe tanning techniques -- limited exposure using a sunscreen/block on skin that doesn't go through a burning stage (in other words, not fair skin types like myself ) -- is exactly the way you say you " get some color. " And exactly what was asking about. (But still, he needs to talk to his doctor, not follow anyone's advice on a board.) Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 , just because you, or some, or even most rosaceans are sensitive to the sun doesn't mean that's true for every rosacean. For example, when my rosacea is quiescent my skin reacts favorably to the sun. The use of sunscreen/block is a complicated controversy because scientists don't fully understand why there's been an increase in skin cancer. A few scientist posit that the increased use of sunscreen may be responsible, others believe the increase cancer is unrelated to sunscreen/block. But most scientists recommend at least a sunblock, and do believe it's healthier to protect oneself from the sun. And I've not heard any controversy regarding the negative effects of the sun on skin aging -- wrinkles and such. But it sounds like we agree: what I described as safe tanning techniques -- limited exposure using a sunscreen/block on skin that doesn't go through a burning stage (in other words, not fair skin types like myself ) -- is exactly the way you say you " get some color. " And exactly what was asking about. (But still, he needs to talk to his doctor, not follow anyone's advice on a board.) Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 , just because you, or some, or even most rosaceans are sensitive to the sun doesn't mean that's true for every rosacean. For example, when my rosacea is quiescent my skin reacts favorably to the sun. The use of sunscreen/block is a complicated controversy because scientists don't fully understand why there's been an increase in skin cancer. A few scientist posit that the increased use of sunscreen may be responsible, others believe the increase cancer is unrelated to sunscreen/block. But most scientists recommend at least a sunblock, and do believe it's healthier to protect oneself from the sun. And I've not heard any controversy regarding the negative effects of the sun on skin aging -- wrinkles and such. But it sounds like we agree: what I described as safe tanning techniques -- limited exposure using a sunscreen/block on skin that doesn't go through a burning stage (in other words, not fair skin types like myself ) -- is exactly the way you say you " get some color. " And exactly what was asking about. (But still, he needs to talk to his doctor, not follow anyone's advice on a board.) Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize that the sun is unavoidable and most people are unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " the rosacea, though each person is different, I have NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say that you can't enjoy activites that involve being out in the sun for a long period of time, but at least put some sunblock on. In my experience even with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in the sun without sunblock) is something that should ever be recommended. > PS. I have found self-tanners that are non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all summer long and people are constantly amazed when I tell them it is all from a bottle. > > emarjency wrote: > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, this is a big no- > no for > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay away from the sun. > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there anyway to > minimize > > the negative effects from the suns rays while still tanning ? I was > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making sure to not get > burnt > > would be the best approach. > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, . Nowadays > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how best to tan, even > without a skin disorder. > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some physicians believe > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't believe it's as big > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan if you normally > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, you may well be > able to safely tan. > > It may take some experimenting with various sunblocks and time > exposures, while watching how your face responds. For example, when > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is very irritating, > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without sunblock (though > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to do anything but > burn, baby, burn ). > > Good luck. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 > tanning is bad for rosacea. there are no exceptions. do not tan, it > will only be bad. get over your desire for tanning, or use a fake > tanning lotion. Amen. The store brand fake tan lotions are actually pretty good nowadays. I liked coppertone's color most, but stopped because I thought it was starting to irritate. Then again that was back when everything was irritating. But the color was very natural - no orange. The neutrogena light foam was good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 I agree that the sun (in too large of a dose) is bad for my face. But I do find that a little (and I do mean a little) sun is helpful. I'm very fair so a little goes a long way. I stay in the shade as much as possible and wear a hat when teaching SCUBA and doing other fun in the sun things and NEVER lay out but when the humidity is low and the temperature is moderate and I pick up a few rays my face does improve. Re: Re: Tanning > I'm with you . Who in the world is saying sun > can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. Yikes! > What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they > come up with the worst possible advice. When it comes > to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd > listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good idea > for anyone. Yikes again! > --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> wrote: > > > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. > > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As > > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize > > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. > > However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock > > is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " > > the rosacea, though each person is different, I have > > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I > > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was > > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say > > that you can't enjoy activites that involve being > > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > > least put some sunblock on. In my experience even > > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in > > the sun without sunblock) is something that should > > ever be recommended. > > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > > summer long and people are constantly amazed when I > > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, > > this is a big no- > > no for > > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay > > away from the sun. > > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there > > anyway to > > minimize > > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > > still tanning ? I was > > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making > > sure to not get > > burnt > > > would be the best approach. > > > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, > > . Nowadays > > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how > > best to tan, even > > without a skin disorder. > > > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > > physicians believe > > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't > > believe it's as big > > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan > > if you normally > > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, > > you may well be > > able to safely tan. > > > > It may take some experimenting with various > > sunblocks and time > > exposures, while watching how your face responds. > > For example, when > > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is > > very irritating, > > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without > > sunblock (though > > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to > > do anything but > > burn, baby, burn ). > > > > Good luck. > > > > Marjorie > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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