Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 I agree that the sun (in too large of a dose) is bad for my face. But I do find that a little (and I do mean a little) sun is helpful. I'm very fair so a little goes a long way. I stay in the shade as much as possible and wear a hat when teaching SCUBA and doing other fun in the sun things and NEVER lay out but when the humidity is low and the temperature is moderate and I pick up a few rays my face does improve. Re: Re: Tanning > I'm with you . Who in the world is saying sun > can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. Yikes! > What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they > come up with the worst possible advice. When it comes > to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd > listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good idea > for anyone. Yikes again! > --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> wrote: > > > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or not. > > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. As > > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I realize > > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day exposure. > > However, to sit outside in the sun without sunblock > > is just not a smart thing to do. As for " helping " > > the rosacea, though each person is different, I have > > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact when I > > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin was > > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to say > > that you can't enjoy activites that involve being > > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > > least put some sunblock on. In my experience even > > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out in > > the sun without sunblock) is something that should > > ever be recommended. > > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > > summer long and people are constantly amazed when I > > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > > > I would really like to tan again, but of course, > > this is a big no- > > no for > > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just stay > > away from the sun. > > > But, if I would like to get some color...is there > > anyway to > > minimize > > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > > still tanning ? I was > > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, making > > sure to not get > > burnt > > > would be the best approach. > > > > That's a good question to ask your dermatologist, > > . Nowadays > > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about how > > best to tan, even > > without a skin disorder. > > > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > > physicians believe > > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I don't > > believe it's as big > > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you tan > > if you normally > > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark enough, > > you may well be > > able to safely tan. > > > > It may take some experimenting with various > > sunblocks and time > > exposures, while watching how your face responds. > > For example, when > > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the sun is > > very irritating, > > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even without > > sunblock (though > > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how to > > do anything but > > burn, baby, burn ). > > > > Good luck. > > > > Marjorie > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Hi Everyone, If you read Marjorie's first line of response to she tells him to " CHECK WITH HIS DERM. " It's later in the post that she states some doctors believe the sun helps rosacea. I have heard that too, and from the comments below others agree. Marjorie didn't recommend that lay out in the sun for heaven's sake. Let's not criticize someone for trying to help another. Let's all take a deep breath here! I am grateful for EVERYONE's contributions--including Marjorie's! Where's Dr. Nase, where's Dr. Sy? Thank you Marjorie for being here. Thank you Everyone for being here! Now back to business, who can recommend a good self tanner that doesn't irritate them? I'd be interested in hearing more about that! Take care - Michele --- kbruckner@...> wrote: > I agree that the sun (in too large of a dose) is bad > for my face. But I do > find that a little (and I do mean a little) sun is > helpful. I'm very fair > so a little goes a long way. I stay in the shade as > much as possible and > wear a hat when teaching SCUBA and doing other fun > in the sun things and > NEVER lay out but when the humidity is low and the > temperature is moderate > and I pick up a few rays my face does improve. > > > Re: Re: Tanning > > > > I'm with you . Who in the world is saying > sun > > can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. > Yikes! > > What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they > > come up with the worst possible advice. When it > comes > > to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd > > listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good > idea > > for anyone. Yikes again! > > --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> > wrote: > > > > > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > > > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or > not. > > > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. > As > > > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > > > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I > realize > > > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > > > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day > exposure. > > > However, to sit outside in the sun without > sunblock > > > is just not a smart thing to do. As for > " helping " > > > the rosacea, though each person is different, I > have > > > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact > when I > > > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin > was > > > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to > say > > > that you can't enjoy activites that involve > being > > > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > > > least put some sunblock on. In my experience > even > > > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > > > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > > > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out > in > > > the sun without sunblock) is something that > should > > > ever be recommended. > > > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > > > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > > > summer long and people are constantly amazed > when I > > > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > > > > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I would really like to tan again, but of > course, > > > this is a big no- > > > no for > > > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just > stay > > > away from the sun. > > > > But, if I would like to get some color...is > there > > > anyway to > > > minimize > > > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > > > still tanning ? I was > > > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, > making > > > sure to not get > > > burnt > > > > would be the best approach. > > > > > > That's a good question to ask your > dermatologist, > > > . Nowadays > > > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about > how > > > best to tan, even > > > without a skin disorder. > > > > > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > > > physicians believe > > > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I > don't > > > believe it's as big > > > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you > tan > > > if you normally > > > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark > enough, > > > you may well be > > > able to safely tan. > > > > > > It may take some experimenting with various > > > sunblocks and time > > > exposures, while watching how your face > responds. > > > For example, when > > > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the > sun is > > > very irritating, > > > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even > without > > > sunblock (though > > > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how > to > > > do anything but > > > burn, baby, burn ). > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Marjorie > > > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You > must > > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Hi Everyone, If you read Marjorie's first line of response to she tells him to " CHECK WITH HIS DERM. " It's later in the post that she states some doctors believe the sun helps rosacea. I have heard that too, and from the comments below others agree. Marjorie didn't recommend that lay out in the sun for heaven's sake. Let's not criticize someone for trying to help another. Let's all take a deep breath here! I am grateful for EVERYONE's contributions--including Marjorie's! Where's Dr. Nase, where's Dr. Sy? Thank you Marjorie for being here. Thank you Everyone for being here! Now back to business, who can recommend a good self tanner that doesn't irritate them? I'd be interested in hearing more about that! Take care - Michele --- kbruckner@...> wrote: > I agree that the sun (in too large of a dose) is bad > for my face. But I do > find that a little (and I do mean a little) sun is > helpful. I'm very fair > so a little goes a long way. I stay in the shade as > much as possible and > wear a hat when teaching SCUBA and doing other fun > in the sun things and > NEVER lay out but when the humidity is low and the > temperature is moderate > and I pick up a few rays my face does improve. > > > Re: Re: Tanning > > > > I'm with you . Who in the world is saying > sun > > can help cea? The sun is my biggest enemy. > Yikes! > > What is up with these doctors? I swear to God they > > come up with the worst possible advice. When it > comes > > to cea I'd take advice from my cat before I'd > > listen to a doctor. And no, tanning is NOT a good > idea > > for anyone. Yikes again! > > --- Raisley jenaraisley@...> > wrote: > > > > > > I honestly can't believe that anyone would > > > recommend tanning whether you have rosacea or > not. > > > Even dark-skinned folks can develop skin cancer. > As > > > a physician Marjorie, you should be aware of the > > > increasing incidence of skin cancer. Now I > realize > > > that the sun is unavoidable and most people are > > > unaffected (cancer-wise) by the day to day > exposure. > > > However, to sit outside in the sun without > sunblock > > > is just not a smart thing to do. As for > " helping " > > > the rosacea, though each person is different, I > have > > > NEVER found that sun has helped me. In fact > when I > > > began to where sunscreen daily I noticed my skin > was > > > a lot less red and irritated. I don't mean to > say > > > that you can't enjoy activites that involve > being > > > out in the sun for a long period of time, but at > > > least put some sunblock on. In my experience > even > > > with a 15 SPF or higher I still get some color. > > > Maybe I am off my rocker here, but I just don't > > > think that purposeful tanning (ie. sitting out > in > > > the sun without sunblock) is something that > should > > > ever be recommended. > > > PS. I have found self-tanners that are > > > non-irritating and realistic. I look bronze all > > > summer long and people are constantly amazed > when I > > > tell them it is all from a bottle. > > > > > > emarjency emarjency@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I would really like to tan again, but of > course, > > > this is a big no- > > > no for > > > > rosacea. I most likely will decide to just > stay > > > away from the sun. > > > > But, if I would like to get some color...is > there > > > anyway to > > > minimize > > > > the negative effects from the suns rays while > > > still tanning ? I was > > > > thinking maybe just a little bit at a time, > making > > > sure to not get > > > burnt > > > > would be the best approach. > > > > > > That's a good question to ask your > dermatologist, > > > . Nowadays > > > there's lots of rumors and misinformation about > how > > > best to tan, even > > > without a skin disorder. > > > > > > My understanding (such as it is ) is that some > > > physicians believe > > > the sun actually helps some rosaceans, so I > don't > > > believe it's as big > > > a no-no as you state. No one would advocate you > tan > > > if you normally > > > burn, but if your normal skin tone is dark > enough, > > > you may well be > > > able to safely tan. > > > > > > It may take some experimenting with various > > > sunblocks and time > > > exposures, while watching how your face > responds. > > > For example, when > > > my rosacea is active the direct heat from the > sun is > > > very irritating, > > > but when it's more quiescent I do fine even > without > > > sunblock (though > > > in the sun my lily white skin wouldn't know how > to > > > do anything but > > > burn, baby, burn ). > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Marjorie > > > > > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You > must > > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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