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Well, Flo I do not know quite how to respond to your comments. On one hand I

know you are trying to be helpful but on the other I feel hurt (No one

promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you have to

do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I will be

thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do whatever you

need to do to change your life.) In my mind there IS NO OTHER SURGERY. Dr.

Rutledge is it. I am currently loosing the weight and when he tells me where

I need to be I WILL get there no matter what. It will just be longer I have

to wait. I wanted to have it done before he left on vacation. I did not

think this was an easy fix. I am about to die Flo, do you understand that?

If something is not done soon I will DIE. that is why I was so upset. I

have struggled for 25 out of my 28 years with my weight. My poor body cannot

take much more. I am not trying to sound harsh or hurt your feelings but I

just want you to understand what this means to me.

Thanks,

Lara

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Well, Flo I do not know quite how to respond to your comments. On one hand I

know you are trying to be helpful but on the other I feel hurt (No one

promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you have to

do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I will be

thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do whatever you

need to do to change your life.) In my mind there IS NO OTHER SURGERY. Dr.

Rutledge is it. I am currently loosing the weight and when he tells me where

I need to be I WILL get there no matter what. It will just be longer I have

to wait. I wanted to have it done before he left on vacation. I did not

think this was an easy fix. I am about to die Flo, do you understand that?

If something is not done soon I will DIE. that is why I was so upset. I

have struggled for 25 out of my 28 years with my weight. My poor body cannot

take much more. I am not trying to sound harsh or hurt your feelings but I

just want you to understand what this means to me.

Thanks,

Lara

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Lara,

I am with you. My husband just called Dr. R's office and Barbara said he

does not operate on anyone over 350lbs. She says over this, he has seen too

many complications. I too am going to have to lose down to 350. My husband

is going to call insurance now to see if they cover the surgery.

E-mail me if you would like and we can go through this weight loss

together.

Remember, God has a reason for everything that comes our way. We don't

need to run into problems that would cause us and our family tears later down

the road.

in SC

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Lara,

I am with you. My husband just called Dr. R's office and Barbara said he

does not operate on anyone over 350lbs. She says over this, he has seen too

many complications. I too am going to have to lose down to 350. My husband

is going to call insurance now to see if they cover the surgery.

E-mail me if you would like and we can go through this weight loss

together.

Remember, God has a reason for everything that comes our way. We don't

need to run into problems that would cause us and our family tears later down

the road.

in SC

If you see someone without a smile:

Give them one of yours :-)

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We have to rely heavily on each other heavily ... get it? Sorry!! I am

waiting for a response from Dr. R. I hope and pray he will say 400. That is

what my patient manual says. Lets all have a moment of silent prayer for

those of us having panic attacks right now.

Love,

Lara

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In a message dated 5/26/2000 9:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

LaraAkin033100@... writes:

<< OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

HAVE A HEART ATTACK. >>

Lara,

Please try to calm down. I know this is a set back for you and I know

you are feeling devastated right now, but don't give up hope, sometimes

people in our position hope is all we have!!!! I will pray really hard for

you that Dr. R will give you good news. It was my understanding that he would

now do the surgery on anyone up to 400 lbs. Keep you're chin up and try to

think positive thoughts!!! I will be thinking of you!!!!

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

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BMI 42

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In a message dated 5/26/2000 9:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

LaraAkin033100@... writes:

<< OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

HAVE A HEART ATTACK. >>

Lara,

Please try to calm down. I know this is a set back for you and I know

you are feeling devastated right now, but don't give up hope, sometimes

people in our position hope is all we have!!!! I will pray really hard for

you that Dr. R will give you good news. It was my understanding that he would

now do the surgery on anyone up to 400 lbs. Keep you're chin up and try to

think positive thoughts!!! I will be thinking of you!!!!

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

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I really feel for you to have to lose weight to have the surgery, It is for

your own health that he is doing it!! It is hard to wait I know!!! But it

will be worth it for your family to know that you have a better chance at a

healthy life. instead of sweating the compications..Please be patient, it

will happen..I will pray for you

Trisha Lanman

Littermate June 1, 2000

packed and waiting

Las Vegas NV

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Ok now Lara, You WILL get to have your surgery eventually, so have no fear.

It is just a matter of working out these details. Dr Rutledge gets hundreds

of emails every day and it will take him a while to get back to you. Hang

on.

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Lara, draw a deep breath and then just do the next thing. Do whatever you

would need to do next had this not happened. First you will hear from your

insurance company. If it sounds like they will indeed pay, then your next

step will be to get down to an acceptable weight for Dr. R.

This is a set back for sure but this is not a definate no can do...this is a

stumbling block which you can get over! Just put one foot in front of the

other and move forward. Don't let this numb you into inaction.

If it sounds like it might be ok with your insurance company, then you need

to work on getting your weight down to where Dr. R needs it to be. If that

is just not going to happen then you need to go to plan b which might be to

consider another surgery.

No one promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you

have to do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I

will be thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do

whatever you need to do to change your life.

Flo in land

To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) e MiniGastricBypass (AT) e>

Date: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:52 AM

Subject: OH NO!!!!!

>You Guys I am very very upset right now!!! I just got an e-mail from Dr. R

>and he said my insurance IS not allowing preauthorization for the surgery

at

>Durham regional. And if that were not enough he said they could not

consider

>me for surgery because the last time I weighed it was 417. I am currently

>trying to get below 400. I am just shacking all over thinking that I will

>not get this after all I have been through. What am I going to do? I

>E-mailed him back and said that MY PATIENT MANUAL SAYS 350-400 AND WANTED

TO

>KNOW HOW MUCH i SHOULD WEIGH BEFORE THEY WOULD CONSIDER ME AND i HAVE NOT

>RECEIVED A RESPONSE. OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

>DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

>HAVE A HEART ATTACK. I CALLED MY INSURANCE COMPANY AND THEY ARE LOOKING

INTO

>IT AND ARE GOING TO CALL ME BACK. OH DEAR THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT

> PACING THE FLOORS,

> LARA

>

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Dear Lara: I do understand. I am very sorry. I certainly did not mean to

sound anything but caring and helpful. I understand you are very upset. Here

is a hug.

Flo in land

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>Well, Flo I do not know quite how to respond to your comments. On one hand

I

>know you are trying to be helpful but on the other I feel hurt (No one

>promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you have to

>do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I will

be

>thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do whatever

you

>need to do to change your life.) In my mind there IS NO OTHER SURGERY.

Dr.

>Rutledge is it. I am currently loosing the weight and when he tells me

where

>I need to be I WILL get there no matter what. It will just be longer I

have

>to wait. I wanted to have it done before he left on vacation. I did not

>think this was an easy fix. I am about to die Flo, do you understand that?

>If something is not done soon I will DIE. that is why I was so upset. I

>have struggled for 25 out of my 28 years with my weight. My poor body

cannot

>take much more. I am not trying to sound harsh or hurt your feelings but I

>just want you to understand what this means to me.

> Thanks,

> Lara

>

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Dear Lara: I do understand. I am very sorry. I certainly did not mean to

sound anything but caring and helpful. I understand you are very upset. Here

is a hug.

Flo in land

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>Well, Flo I do not know quite how to respond to your comments. On one hand

I

>know you are trying to be helpful but on the other I feel hurt (No one

>promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you have to

>do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I will

be

>thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do whatever

you

>need to do to change your life.) In my mind there IS NO OTHER SURGERY.

Dr.

>Rutledge is it. I am currently loosing the weight and when he tells me

where

>I need to be I WILL get there no matter what. It will just be longer I

have

>to wait. I wanted to have it done before he left on vacation. I did not

>think this was an easy fix. I am about to die Flo, do you understand that?

>If something is not done soon I will DIE. that is why I was so upset. I

>have struggled for 25 out of my 28 years with my weight. My poor body

cannot

>take much more. I am not trying to sound harsh or hurt your feelings but I

>just want you to understand what this means to me.

> Thanks,

> Lara

>

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>Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

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Dear Lara: I do understand. I am very sorry. I certainly did not mean to

sound anything but caring and helpful. I understand you are very upset. Here

is a hug.

Flo in land

Re: OH NO!!!!!

>Well, Flo I do not know quite how to respond to your comments. On one hand

I

>know you are trying to be helpful but on the other I feel hurt (No one

>promised us this would be a sure cure or an easy fix. It may be you have to

>do lots of ground work and prep work to make this happen for you. I will

be

>thinking of you and hoping that you will find the strength to do whatever

you

>need to do to change your life.) In my mind there IS NO OTHER SURGERY.

Dr.

>Rutledge is it. I am currently loosing the weight and when he tells me

where

>I need to be I WILL get there no matter what. It will just be longer I

have

>to wait. I wanted to have it done before he left on vacation. I did not

>think this was an easy fix. I am about to die Flo, do you understand that?

>If something is not done soon I will DIE. that is why I was so upset. I

>have struggled for 25 out of my 28 years with my weight. My poor body

cannot

>take much more. I am not trying to sound harsh or hurt your feelings but I

>just want you to understand what this means to me.

> Thanks,

> Lara

>

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>Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

>

>

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Now I'm worried! I sent my PI in on Wednesday and got a reply back

yesterday that they had sent a letter to my insurance for approval. I am

currently at 370 lbs. Does that mean Dr.R won't treat me? I am going to

start trying to lose today!! I want this surgery!

Memz

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:27 AM

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Subject: Re: OH NO!!!!!

Lara,

I am with you. My husband just called Dr. R's office and Barbara

said he

does not operate on anyone over 350lbs. She says over this, he has

seen too

many complications. I too am going to have to lose down to 350. My

husband

is going to call insurance now to see if they cover the surgery.

E-mail me if you would like and we can go through this weight

loss

together.

Remember, God has a reason for everything that comes our way.

We don't

need to run into problems that would cause us and our family tears

later down

the road.

in SC

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Give them one of yours :-)

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Now I'm worried! I sent my PI in on Wednesday and got a reply back

yesterday that they had sent a letter to my insurance for approval. I am

currently at 370 lbs. Does that mean Dr.R won't treat me? I am going to

start trying to lose today!! I want this surgery!

Memz

----------

From: Goofygrits@... [sMTP:Goofygrits@...]

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:27 AM

To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) e

Subject: Re: OH NO!!!!!

Lara,

I am with you. My husband just called Dr. R's office and Barbara

said he

does not operate on anyone over 350lbs. She says over this, he has

seen too

many complications. I too am going to have to lose down to 350. My

husband

is going to call insurance now to see if they cover the surgery.

E-mail me if you would like and we can go through this weight

loss

together.

Remember, God has a reason for everything that comes our way.

We don't

need to run into problems that would cause us and our family tears

later down

the road.

in SC

If you see someone without a smile:

Give them one of yours :-)

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Hi Lara..

I am so sorry you are having so many problems with this surgery.. but, I do

understand what you are going through.. I am at a steel wall right now... We

WILL get through this, we WILL have our surgery, and we WILL LIVE!!!!! God

be with you!!

In my thoughts and prayers,

Terri

>You Guys I am very very upset right now!!! I just got an e-mail from Dr. R

>and he said my insurance IS not allowing preauthorization for the surgery

>at

>Durham regional. And if that were not enough he said they could not

>consider

>me for surgery because the last time I weighed it was 417. I am currently

>trying to get below 400. I am just shacking all over thinking that I will

>not get this after all I have been through. What am I going to do? I

>E-mailed him back and said that MY PATIENT MANUAL SAYS 350-400 AND WANTED

>TO

>KNOW HOW MUCH i SHOULD WEIGH BEFORE THEY WOULD CONSIDER ME AND i HAVE NOT

>RECEIVED A RESPONSE. OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

>DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

>HAVE A HEART ATTACK. I CALLED MY INSURANCE COMPANY AND THEY ARE LOOKING

>INTO

>IT AND ARE GOING TO CALL ME BACK. OH DEAR THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT

> PACING THE FLOORS,

> LARA

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you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. " - Luke

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Hi Lara..

I am so sorry you are having so many problems with this surgery.. but, I do

understand what you are going through.. I am at a steel wall right now... We

WILL get through this, we WILL have our surgery, and we WILL LIVE!!!!! God

be with you!!

In my thoughts and prayers,

Terri

>You Guys I am very very upset right now!!! I just got an e-mail from Dr. R

>and he said my insurance IS not allowing preauthorization for the surgery

>at

>Durham regional. And if that were not enough he said they could not

>consider

>me for surgery because the last time I weighed it was 417. I am currently

>trying to get below 400. I am just shacking all over thinking that I will

>not get this after all I have been through. What am I going to do? I

>E-mailed him back and said that MY PATIENT MANUAL SAYS 350-400 AND WANTED

>TO

>KNOW HOW MUCH i SHOULD WEIGH BEFORE THEY WOULD CONSIDER ME AND i HAVE NOT

>RECEIVED A RESPONSE. OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

>DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

>HAVE A HEART ATTACK. I CALLED MY INSURANCE COMPANY AND THEY ARE LOOKING

>INTO

>IT AND ARE GOING TO CALL ME BACK. OH DEAR THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT

> PACING THE FLOORS,

> LARA

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you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. " - Luke

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Lara.. calm down hun... I think getting your insurance straightened out

would be a good idea. Without that, you would be self pay... then

workon your weight as you get this done. HUGS

a

LaraAkin033100@... wrote:

>

> You Guys I am very very upset right now!!! I just got an e-mail from Dr. R

> and he said my insurance IS not allowing preauthorization for the surgery at

> Durham regional. And if that were not enough he said they could not consider

> me for surgery because the last time I weighed it was 417. I am currently

> trying to get below 400. I am just shacking all over thinking that I will

> not get this after all I have been through. What am I going to do? I

> E-mailed him back and said that MY PATIENT MANUAL SAYS 350-400 AND WANTED TO

> KNOW HOW MUCH i SHOULD WEIGH BEFORE THEY WOULD CONSIDER ME AND i HAVE NOT

> RECEIVED A RESPONSE. OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??? I AM TRYING TO CALM

> DOWN BUT MY HEART IS RACING AT 90 MILES A MINUTE WHICH IS BAD I KNOW I MAY

> HAVE A HEART ATTACK. I CALLED MY INSURANCE COMPANY AND THEY ARE LOOKING INTO

> IT AND ARE GOING TO CALL ME BACK. OH DEAR THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT

> PACING THE FLOORS,

> LARA

>

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Greetings!

As we have said and the manual says that the weight limit is 350-400.

It is up to Doc. R., I would assume. There are many factors that

would influence that decision and only he can answer them. Now,

remember, Fanney lost 150 just to have the surgery. If you have to

lose 10-20-30 pounds to have the surgery, it would seem to be an

inconvenience, but do-able if you are really determined to have the

MGB. I wouldn't panic yet about the weight limit until you see Doc.

R.

-Ginny Ivanoff

MGB: 3/1/00

348/290

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Greetings!

As we have said and the manual says that the weight limit is 350-400.

It is up to Doc. R., I would assume. There are many factors that

would influence that decision and only he can answer them. Now,

remember, Fanney lost 150 just to have the surgery. If you have to

lose 10-20-30 pounds to have the surgery, it would seem to be an

inconvenience, but do-able if you are really determined to have the

MGB. I wouldn't panic yet about the weight limit until you see Doc.

R.

-Ginny Ivanoff

MGB: 3/1/00

348/290

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Greetings!

As we have said and the manual says that the weight limit is 350-400.

It is up to Doc. R., I would assume. There are many factors that

would influence that decision and only he can answer them. Now,

remember, Fanney lost 150 just to have the surgery. If you have to

lose 10-20-30 pounds to have the surgery, it would seem to be an

inconvenience, but do-able if you are really determined to have the

MGB. I wouldn't panic yet about the weight limit until you see Doc.

R.

-Ginny Ivanoff

MGB: 3/1/00

348/290

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Lara,

I have no suggestions for you and I am sorry for that. I do understand

your pain though. I know that if something isn't done soon I too could be

over the limit and I am very grateful that I was able to find this before

this happened, but it would have and I think that we all know this about

ourselves. Please, stay on and let us know how you are doing to get to your

surgery weight. Even though I have a date I will not feel secure until it

is over. I worry that something will happen that will postpone it. I have

seen others go through this. We are all still in this together and it is

wonderful to know we can come here to vent our worst feelings along with our

joys. I know I have done my share. So keep on, none of us knows all that

the others have gone through but when we start sharing we find out how many

others have or are going through what we have. With your determination it

will happen but it is very disappointing when it is not when we want. I

know I just whined about this on Wed. We love you and will keep you in our

thoughts and prayers.

Darlene

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> I am crying so hard I cannot see the keys.

> {{{{{BIG HUGS BACK}}}}}

> Lara

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Lara,

I have no suggestions for you and I am sorry for that. I do understand

your pain though. I know that if something isn't done soon I too could be

over the limit and I am very grateful that I was able to find this before

this happened, but it would have and I think that we all know this about

ourselves. Please, stay on and let us know how you are doing to get to your

surgery weight. Even though I have a date I will not feel secure until it

is over. I worry that something will happen that will postpone it. I have

seen others go through this. We are all still in this together and it is

wonderful to know we can come here to vent our worst feelings along with our

joys. I know I have done my share. So keep on, none of us knows all that

the others have gone through but when we start sharing we find out how many

others have or are going through what we have. With your determination it

will happen but it is very disappointing when it is not when we want. I

know I just whined about this on Wed. We love you and will keep you in our

thoughts and prayers.

Darlene

LaraAkin033100@... wrote:

> Thanks Flo,

> I am crying so hard I cannot see the keys.

> {{{{{BIG HUGS BACK}}}}}

> Lara

>

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