Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Expected results A number of systems have been developed to help determine the prognosis of an individual with pancreatitis. A very basic evaluation of a patient will allow some prediction to be made based on the presence of dying pancreatic tissue (necrosis) and bleeding. When necrosis and bleeding are present, as many as 50% of patients may die. More elaborate systems have been created to help determine the prognosis of patients with pancreatitis. Ranson's signs, the most commonly used system, identifies 11 different signs that can be used to determine the severity of the disease. The first five categories are evaluated when the patient is admitted to the hospital: age over 55 years blood sugar level over 200 mg/Dl serum lactic dehydrogenase over 350 IU/L (increased with increased breakdown of blood, as would occur with internal bleeding, and with heart or liver damage) AST over 250 µ (a measure of liver function, as well as a gauge of damage to the heart, muscle, brain, and kidney) white blood count over 16,000 µL The next six of Ranson's signs are reviewed 48 hours after admission to the hospital. These are: greater than 10% decrease in hematocrit (a measure of red blood cell volume) increase in BUN (blood urea nitrogen, an indicator of kidney function) greater than 5 mg/dL blood calcium less than 8 mg/dL PaO2 (a measure of oxygen in the blood) less than 60 mm Hg base deficit greater than 4 mEg/L (a measure of change in the normal acidity of the blood) fluid sequestration greater than 6 L (an estimation of the quantity of fluid that has leaked out of the blood circulation and into other body spaces). Once a doctor determines how many of Ranson's signs are present and gives the patient a score, the doctor can better predict the risk of death. The more signs present, the greater the chance of death. A patient with less than three positive Ranson's signs has a less than 5% chance of dying. A patient with three to four positive Ranson's signs has a 15-20% chance of dying. The results of a CT scan can also be used to predict the severity of pancreatitis. Slight swelling of the pancreas indicates mild illness. Significant swelling, especially with evidence of destruction of the pancreas and/or fluid buildup in the abdominal cavity, indicates more severe illness. With severe illness, there is a worse prognosis. From: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2603/0005/2603000573/p6/article.jh tml?term= , we are out to rewrite the history here. A lot of great things are now being done. A lot more are to come! I am donating my body in the name of research of pancreatitis. I carry the card. We will try our best to not let you down. Calm down and enjoy LABOR DAY! Sis and Hub will have to take it as it comes. Right now they stand a worse chance, against a drunk driver! Becareful out there this long weekend. > I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being > deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? > If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time with > insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I > am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have > to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little is > known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am > consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly > chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 - I have read some of the > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I am worried sick about my sister. I I hate to say I am consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > , I can understand your fear for your sister, yet you need to put your mind at rest. Although chronic pancreatitis is a major adjustment for people to deal with, it very likely will NOT be the cause of most of our deaths. Something else will be, like old age, other medical complications, a car wreck, or something that happens to anyone. I do not consider this disease to be of any threat to my life, it just makes things harder to deal with. It is very hard to even find statistics to support a mortality rate for chronic pancreatitis alone. This is a statement made by the National Pancreas Foundation: Pancreatitis is an inflammatory condition of the pancreas that is painful and at times deadly. Despite the great advances in critical care medicine over the past 20 years, the mortality rate of acute pancreatitis has remained at about 10%. This quote is talking about acute pancreatitis, not chronic. And it is talking about situations where the acute condition caused organ failure and a multitude of other medical problems. Most other articles I researched spoke only of the complications that could develop during attacks of acute pancreatitis, and most said the mortality rate was less than 5%. Conditions of chronic pancreatitis carried a higher mortality risk only for those with pseudocysts or tumors in additon to their chronic pancreatitis (7%), yet even then I could find few facts supporting any actual mortality rates. Some of our members have had this condition since birth, and some were first diagnosed well over 20 years ago, and I think all have expectations of living a long, long time. I think you need to stop dwelling on this. The things that will help your sister best is a good specializing physician, a good diet and proper treatment of her condition. With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina hhessgriffeth@... Southeastern Representative Pancreatitis Association, Intl. http://www.pancassociation.org/storieshome.html#Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 - I have read some of the > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I am worried sick about my sister. I I hate to say I am consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > , I can understand your fear for your sister, yet you need to put your mind at rest. Although chronic pancreatitis is a major adjustment for people to deal with, it very likely will NOT be the cause of most of our deaths. Something else will be, like old age, other medical complications, a car wreck, or something that happens to anyone. I do not consider this disease to be of any threat to my life, it just makes things harder to deal with. It is very hard to even find statistics to support a mortality rate for chronic pancreatitis alone. This is a statement made by the National Pancreas Foundation: Pancreatitis is an inflammatory condition of the pancreas that is painful and at times deadly. Despite the great advances in critical care medicine over the past 20 years, the mortality rate of acute pancreatitis has remained at about 10%. This quote is talking about acute pancreatitis, not chronic. And it is talking about situations where the acute condition caused organ failure and a multitude of other medical problems. Most other articles I researched spoke only of the complications that could develop during attacks of acute pancreatitis, and most said the mortality rate was less than 5%. Conditions of chronic pancreatitis carried a higher mortality risk only for those with pseudocysts or tumors in additon to their chronic pancreatitis (7%), yet even then I could find few facts supporting any actual mortality rates. Some of our members have had this condition since birth, and some were first diagnosed well over 20 years ago, and I think all have expectations of living a long, long time. I think you need to stop dwelling on this. The things that will help your sister best is a good specializing physician, a good diet and proper treatment of her condition. With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina hhessgriffeth@... Southeastern Representative Pancreatitis Association, Intl. http://www.pancassociation.org/storieshome.html#Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 - I have read some of the > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I am worried sick about my sister. I I hate to say I am consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > , I can understand your fear for your sister, yet you need to put your mind at rest. Although chronic pancreatitis is a major adjustment for people to deal with, it very likely will NOT be the cause of most of our deaths. Something else will be, like old age, other medical complications, a car wreck, or something that happens to anyone. I do not consider this disease to be of any threat to my life, it just makes things harder to deal with. It is very hard to even find statistics to support a mortality rate for chronic pancreatitis alone. This is a statement made by the National Pancreas Foundation: Pancreatitis is an inflammatory condition of the pancreas that is painful and at times deadly. Despite the great advances in critical care medicine over the past 20 years, the mortality rate of acute pancreatitis has remained at about 10%. This quote is talking about acute pancreatitis, not chronic. And it is talking about situations where the acute condition caused organ failure and a multitude of other medical problems. Most other articles I researched spoke only of the complications that could develop during attacks of acute pancreatitis, and most said the mortality rate was less than 5%. Conditions of chronic pancreatitis carried a higher mortality risk only for those with pseudocysts or tumors in additon to their chronic pancreatitis (7%), yet even then I could find few facts supporting any actual mortality rates. Some of our members have had this condition since birth, and some were first diagnosed well over 20 years ago, and I think all have expectations of living a long, long time. I think you need to stop dwelling on this. The things that will help your sister best is a good specializing physician, a good diet and proper treatment of her condition. With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina hhessgriffeth@... Southeastern Representative Pancreatitis Association, Intl. http://www.pancassociation.org/storieshome.html#Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 , The only quote I have ever found in a study was that 50% of Chronic Pancreatitis patients did not survive past 7 years of diagnosis. This is a pretty scary number until you find that the average age at diagnosis in the study was 61. As a general rule folks do not die from Chronic Pancreatitis. They will usually die from something else or a complication of the disease like a severe Acute attack or some type of diabetic complication or Pancreatic Cancer. Chronic Pancreatitis is not necessarily a death sentence. Chuck At 05:40 PM 8/31/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the >past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being >deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? >If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time with >insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I >am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have >to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little is >known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am >consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly >chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > Chuck Sullivan chuck@... " When in command, Take charge. When faced with a decision, do what is right. Nothing else matters. " - Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 , The only quote I have ever found in a study was that 50% of Chronic Pancreatitis patients did not survive past 7 years of diagnosis. This is a pretty scary number until you find that the average age at diagnosis in the study was 61. As a general rule folks do not die from Chronic Pancreatitis. They will usually die from something else or a complication of the disease like a severe Acute attack or some type of diabetic complication or Pancreatic Cancer. Chronic Pancreatitis is not necessarily a death sentence. Chuck At 05:40 PM 8/31/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the >past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being >deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? >If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time with >insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I >am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have >to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little is >known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am >consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly >chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > Chuck Sullivan chuck@... " When in command, Take charge. When faced with a decision, do what is right. Nothing else matters. " - Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I just have to make mention that you have been extremely helpful and reassuring with this posting. I think mortality was the first thing that crossed all minds of people that love me. Wish the doctors could all be this informative. Thank you. I hope you are doing well. Joia > > I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the > > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being > > deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? > > If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time > with > > insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I > > am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have > > to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little > is > > known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am > > consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly > > chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I just have to make mention that you have been extremely helpful and reassuring with this posting. I think mortality was the first thing that crossed all minds of people that love me. Wish the doctors could all be this informative. Thank you. I hope you are doing well. Joia > > I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the > > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being > > deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? > > If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time > with > > insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I > > am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have > > to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little > is > > known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am > > consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly > > chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I just have to make mention that you have been extremely helpful and reassuring with this posting. I think mortality was the first thing that crossed all minds of people that love me. Wish the doctors could all be this informative. Thank you. I hope you are doing well. Joia > > I know I have already asked some questions. I have read some of the > > past messages and have heard some talk about pancreatitis as being > > deadly. Does chronic pancreatitis result in death in most patients? > > If pancreatectomies are performed can a person live a long time > with > > insulin replacement? Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here, but I > > am worried sick about my sister. I feel bad for all of you who have > > to suffer with this terrible disease and it is shocking so little > is > > known and so little really helps with it. I hate to say I am > > consumed by all this right now, but if the diagnosis is truly > > chronic I am worried how she and her hubby will deal with this. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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