Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Could someone please define papules vs pustules... are they the same thing? Are they like pimples? Are they squeezable? I have started developing some small bumps, very very hard bumps, and they look like they have a white core, but are definitely not squeezable. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Papules are hard red bumps, while pustules are, as you'd suspect, red bumps with puss. They both are caused by facial flushing and are NOT associated with the usual suspects associated with acne like oil and other skin bacteria. According to Dr. Nase, they are caused by damaged and inflammed blood vessels in your face that leak into the surrounding skin. Pustules become pustules rather than papules because they leak into the sebacaous areas of your face. I don't know if they are necessarily " hard " as you describe - mine are not and I couldn't find anything about that in my Dr. Nase book. Does anyone else in our group know? Squeezing them is pretty useless as there's " nothing in there " as I'm sure you've found out. I think it actually creates more flushing in that area and thus MORE red bumps, too. Try and work on the flushing part and use some of your tricks that have helped you in the past. For me this means lots of water, extra topical medication, cooling/soothing masks and jojoba oil. > Could someone please define papules vs pustules... are they the same thing? > Are they like pimples? Are they squeezable? I have started developing some > small bumps, very very hard bumps, and they look like they have a white > core, but are definitely not squeezable. > > a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Papules are hard red bumps, while pustules are, as you'd suspect, red bumps with puss. They both are caused by facial flushing and are NOT associated with the usual suspects associated with acne like oil and other skin bacteria. According to Dr. Nase, they are caused by damaged and inflammed blood vessels in your face that leak into the surrounding skin. Pustules become pustules rather than papules because they leak into the sebacaous areas of your face. I don't know if they are necessarily " hard " as you describe - mine are not and I couldn't find anything about that in my Dr. Nase book. Does anyone else in our group know? Squeezing them is pretty useless as there's " nothing in there " as I'm sure you've found out. I think it actually creates more flushing in that area and thus MORE red bumps, too. Try and work on the flushing part and use some of your tricks that have helped you in the past. For me this means lots of water, extra topical medication, cooling/soothing masks and jojoba oil. > Could someone please define papules vs pustules... are they the same thing? > Are they like pimples? Are they squeezable? I have started developing some > small bumps, very very hard bumps, and they look like they have a white > core, but are definitely not squeezable. > > a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 I had two small round white bumps that would never go away. They turned out to be deep pimples. They were not inflamed. My derm took the one out on my forehead and thought the other (under my eye and near my nose) was milia, so she left it alone. I thought it was a pimple. About 2 years later, after being a bad girl several times trying to get it out, it finally did come out - it was a pimple. Re: Re: Papules vs Pustules > > > >Ralph, Do you find that these little bumps are on the tender side? More > >so than an average pimple? The hurt associated with trying to squeeze or > >scrap one is a bit different than a pimple, and I there are occurring only > >on the forehead close to the hairline... very strange. > > > >a > > > >> I get the same bumps that a describes and they are neither pustules or > >> papules but seem closer to the definition of a sebaceuos hyperplasia > >> (sp.?)--they are very hard, white little bumps that never go away--I have > >> tried picking and scraping them off but they do not change at all no > >matter > >> what I put them on them--I have had them for about a year or so with no > >> change--I have about six of them right in the middle of my forehead. > >> > >> Sorry I don't a treatment suggestion but wanted to let you know that > >you're > >> not the only one > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when > replying to a digest ! > > > >See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > > >To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 I had two small round white bumps that would never go away. They turned out to be deep pimples. They were not inflamed. My derm took the one out on my forehead and thought the other (under my eye and near my nose) was milia, so she left it alone. I thought it was a pimple. About 2 years later, after being a bad girl several times trying to get it out, it finally did come out - it was a pimple. Re: Re: Papules vs Pustules > > > >Ralph, Do you find that these little bumps are on the tender side? More > >so than an average pimple? The hurt associated with trying to squeeze or > >scrap one is a bit different than a pimple, and I there are occurring only > >on the forehead close to the hairline... very strange. > > > >a > > > >> I get the same bumps that a describes and they are neither pustules or > >> papules but seem closer to the definition of a sebaceuos hyperplasia > >> (sp.?)--they are very hard, white little bumps that never go away--I have > >> tried picking and scraping them off but they do not change at all no > >matter > >> what I put them on them--I have had them for about a year or so with no > >> change--I have about six of them right in the middle of my forehead. > >> > >> Sorry I don't a treatment suggestion but wanted to let you know that > >you're > >> not the only one > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when > replying to a digest ! > > > >See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > > >To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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