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I have to say, Matija's post about Nasalcrom

reinforces my theory. I was an afternoon flusher for

years, and it (I haven't found anything to disprove

this in a year of experimenting) because I had

developed a basic food allergy to something I ate

almost every day for lunch.

I know from previous posts that Matija eats a

carefully controlled diet (perhaps that's the reason

you haven't needed the Nasalcrom?).

My own pattern was to flush around 3-5 p.m., depending

on when I had eaten lunch.

I became suspicious when I realized I flushed

mid-morning, but only on days we had staff meetings!

It wasn't stress, or the environment, but the snacks!

Listen, way back in the 1980s I was questions whether

it was my computer display terminal, the florescent

lights, the air conditioning, etc. The flushing

followed me through jobs and environments over the

years. I disappeared now and then (probably when I was

taking antihistimines for hay fever, etc.) and would

reappear, seemingly mysteriously.

Finally, after my symptoms suddenly became

increasingly severe last year -- and involved many

body symptoms, and not just my face -- I realized it

was probably a food allergy.

If anyone is a regular " time of day " flusher, I highly

recommend keeping a food diary for three or four

weeks, charting what you eat and when you experience

symptoms. It seems excessive, but can possibly save

you a ton of heartache and money. It might be as

simple as your salad, diet soda, or bread, you never

know. And, food allergies can manifest at any time in

your life.

What I'm allergic to isn't the point of this post --

encouraging self-discovery is!

Suzi

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I have to say, Matija's post about Nasalcrom

reinforces my theory. I was an afternoon flusher for

years, and it (I haven't found anything to disprove

this in a year of experimenting) because I had

developed a basic food allergy to something I ate

almost every day for lunch.

I know from previous posts that Matija eats a

carefully controlled diet (perhaps that's the reason

you haven't needed the Nasalcrom?).

My own pattern was to flush around 3-5 p.m., depending

on when I had eaten lunch.

I became suspicious when I realized I flushed

mid-morning, but only on days we had staff meetings!

It wasn't stress, or the environment, but the snacks!

Listen, way back in the 1980s I was questions whether

it was my computer display terminal, the florescent

lights, the air conditioning, etc. The flushing

followed me through jobs and environments over the

years. I disappeared now and then (probably when I was

taking antihistimines for hay fever, etc.) and would

reappear, seemingly mysteriously.

Finally, after my symptoms suddenly became

increasingly severe last year -- and involved many

body symptoms, and not just my face -- I realized it

was probably a food allergy.

If anyone is a regular " time of day " flusher, I highly

recommend keeping a food diary for three or four

weeks, charting what you eat and when you experience

symptoms. It seems excessive, but can possibly save

you a ton of heartache and money. It might be as

simple as your salad, diet soda, or bread, you never

know. And, food allergies can manifest at any time in

your life.

What I'm allergic to isn't the point of this post --

encouraging self-discovery is!

Suzi

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I have to say, Matija's post about Nasalcrom

reinforces my theory. I was an afternoon flusher for

years, and it (I haven't found anything to disprove

this in a year of experimenting) because I had

developed a basic food allergy to something I ate

almost every day for lunch.

I know from previous posts that Matija eats a

carefully controlled diet (perhaps that's the reason

you haven't needed the Nasalcrom?).

My own pattern was to flush around 3-5 p.m., depending

on when I had eaten lunch.

I became suspicious when I realized I flushed

mid-morning, but only on days we had staff meetings!

It wasn't stress, or the environment, but the snacks!

Listen, way back in the 1980s I was questions whether

it was my computer display terminal, the florescent

lights, the air conditioning, etc. The flushing

followed me through jobs and environments over the

years. I disappeared now and then (probably when I was

taking antihistimines for hay fever, etc.) and would

reappear, seemingly mysteriously.

Finally, after my symptoms suddenly became

increasingly severe last year -- and involved many

body symptoms, and not just my face -- I realized it

was probably a food allergy.

If anyone is a regular " time of day " flusher, I highly

recommend keeping a food diary for three or four

weeks, charting what you eat and when you experience

symptoms. It seems excessive, but can possibly save

you a ton of heartache and money. It might be as

simple as your salad, diet soda, or bread, you never

know. And, food allergies can manifest at any time in

your life.

What I'm allergic to isn't the point of this post --

encouraging self-discovery is!

Suzi

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I have a question. I seem to spontaneously flush in

the evening hours every day for a half hour to a

couple hours. However, it's just my nose. I've gone

days where I've eaten everything on the planet, and

days where I've eaten nothing at all. Therefore, I

don't think it is a food allergy. Also, my other

flushing problem is exercise. I'm just wondering if

this is related to the sympathetic nerves. I know

that in Nase's book he mentioned the relationship

between the those nerves and the increase in body heat

during the later hours, and I know ETS helped him.

I'm very cautious of the surgery, however. Does

anyone know if he has any regrets from it.

This spontaneous flush seems to be my biggest problem

because it is so unpredictable, but once it happens

I'm good for the rest of night.

Any insight?

Mat

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I have a question. I seem to spontaneously flush in

the evening hours every day for a half hour to a

couple hours. However, it's just my nose. I've gone

days where I've eaten everything on the planet, and

days where I've eaten nothing at all. Therefore, I

don't think it is a food allergy. Also, my other

flushing problem is exercise. I'm just wondering if

this is related to the sympathetic nerves. I know

that in Nase's book he mentioned the relationship

between the those nerves and the increase in body heat

during the later hours, and I know ETS helped him.

I'm very cautious of the surgery, however. Does

anyone know if he has any regrets from it.

This spontaneous flush seems to be my biggest problem

because it is so unpredictable, but once it happens

I'm good for the rest of night.

Any insight?

Mat

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I have a question. I seem to spontaneously flush in

the evening hours every day for a half hour to a

couple hours. However, it's just my nose. I've gone

days where I've eaten everything on the planet, and

days where I've eaten nothing at all. Therefore, I

don't think it is a food allergy. Also, my other

flushing problem is exercise. I'm just wondering if

this is related to the sympathetic nerves. I know

that in Nase's book he mentioned the relationship

between the those nerves and the increase in body heat

during the later hours, and I know ETS helped him.

I'm very cautious of the surgery, however. Does

anyone know if he has any regrets from it.

This spontaneous flush seems to be my biggest problem

because it is so unpredictable, but once it happens

I'm good for the rest of night.

Any insight?

Mat

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I, too, flushed at a certain time everyday, between 3 and 6 PM for years (12

years). I thought it was related to what I ate, but I could never find a

connection. After 12 years things got worse. My flushing increased, and I

had some tissue growth on the nose, and my nose began to get permanently

red. I've had about 6 V-beam treatments over the last year and a half. All

the permanent red is gone. The treatments have almost eliminated the

flushing. I still try to flush just about daily, or flush with a minimum

red nose - more pink in spots. It is only my nose that does this.

My derm told me many patients tell her they flush the same time each day.

My flushing is definitely related to my " down time " each day - the time of

day when my body is most tired. I seem to perk up after that time.

Re: Late Afternoon Flushing

>

> I have a question. I seem to spontaneously flush in

> the evening hours every day for a half hour to a

> couple hours. However, it's just my nose. I've gone

> days where I've eaten everything on the planet, and

> days where I've eaten nothing at all. Therefore, I

> don't think it is a food allergy. Also, my other

> flushing problem is exercise. I'm just wondering if

> this is related to the sympathetic nerves. I know

> that in Nase's book he mentioned the relationship

> between the those nerves and the increase in body heat

> during the later hours, and I know ETS helped him.

> I'm very cautious of the surgery, however. Does

> anyone know if he has any regrets from it.

> This spontaneous flush seems to be my biggest problem

> because it is so unpredictable, but once it happens

> I'm good for the rest of night.

> Any insight?

>

> Mat

>

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>

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I, too, flushed at a certain time everyday, between 3 and 6 PM for years (12

years). I thought it was related to what I ate, but I could never find a

connection. After 12 years things got worse. My flushing increased, and I

had some tissue growth on the nose, and my nose began to get permanently

red. I've had about 6 V-beam treatments over the last year and a half. All

the permanent red is gone. The treatments have almost eliminated the

flushing. I still try to flush just about daily, or flush with a minimum

red nose - more pink in spots. It is only my nose that does this.

My derm told me many patients tell her they flush the same time each day.

My flushing is definitely related to my " down time " each day - the time of

day when my body is most tired. I seem to perk up after that time.

Re: Late Afternoon Flushing

>

> I have a question. I seem to spontaneously flush in

> the evening hours every day for a half hour to a

> couple hours. However, it's just my nose. I've gone

> days where I've eaten everything on the planet, and

> days where I've eaten nothing at all. Therefore, I

> don't think it is a food allergy. Also, my other

> flushing problem is exercise. I'm just wondering if

> this is related to the sympathetic nerves. I know

> that in Nase's book he mentioned the relationship

> between the those nerves and the increase in body heat

> during the later hours, and I know ETS helped him.

> I'm very cautious of the surgery, however. Does

> anyone know if he has any regrets from it.

> This spontaneous flush seems to be my biggest problem

> because it is so unpredictable, but once it happens

> I'm good for the rest of night.

> Any insight?

>

> Mat

>

> __________________________________________________

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I think this was mean for the group. Matija

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:45:45 -0000

To: " ruizdelvizo " ruizdelvizo@...>

Subject: Re: Late Afternoon Flushing

Hi,

I flush almost everyday at around 3PM, I am going to try different

lunches and see what happens.

> It's been discussed on the group before how some of us have a flush

> in the late afternoon. One of the possibilities mentioned was that

> our body is on a clock of sorts where the lowest body temperature

is

> at 3am and the highest occurs in the late afternoon to early

evening.

>

> Here's a link to some literature on this:

> http://www.rosacea-ltd.com/flushing.php3

>

> I have had success in the past using an otc inhalant called

> Nasalcrom, which is widely available in drugstores in the US. Using

> this as directed seemed to eliminate the 4pm flush for me.

Nasalcrom

> works by inhibiting the mast cells in your nose from releasing

> histamine in response to an inhaled allergen. I haven't had to use

> Nasalcrom in about a year because my rosacea has, knock on wood,

> calmed down quite a bit.

>

> Take care,

> Matija

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