Re: New, need information on breastfeeding

[Guest guest]

I think you should look at it a bit differently than the food

allergy theory of " what food is getting through my breastmilk " .

In the context of SCD, we know that the intestinal flora is the

guardian of the immune system as well as the digestive system.

Breastmilk is an excellent transport of the mother's flora to the

baby, and the only way to protectively seal up the gut of a newborn,

as proven by research.

So one might infer that negative bacteria/yeast also transfer

through your milk if the mother has issues with her flora. This

makes a huge different in your babe. It all starts with us.

For the mama who posted that her babe got colitis on a diet of

breastmilk does not mean breastmilk induces colitis, it is much more

complex and individual than that.

Also, if your digestive system is leaky, the dairy/wheat proteins

etc. are not fully broken down by enzymes and are passing thru your

leaky gut to your bloodstream. So therefore they probably end up in

your milk and that is why you are seeing reactions. BM is made from

the contents of your bloodstream.

I don't know about sugars specifically transferring BM. The primary

sugar in BM is a special kind of lactose that has been shown to be

very beneficial from research for allowing good probiotic bacteria

to proliferate.

I do know about the leaky gut proteins that have not been researched

however since mainstream medicine has thus far ignored the leaky gut

theory.

Fats are transferred very easily to breastmilk... meaning if you eat

coconut oil, the beneficial MCT's pass thru to the babe and have

anti bacterial and anti fungal properties. And if you eat

hydrogenated fats/trans fats they show up in your milk as well, and

they are very damaging.

I say all of this as a mama who has BTDT... my guy had yeast and

colic issues from birth. (I had massive antibiotics from

incompetent doctors before getting pg that trashed my gut.) DS got

better on exclusive BM but we had antibiotics at birth that I didn't

authorize and supplemental formula working against us. (Would

refuse those with every ounce of my being now, how nice is

hindsight.)

Got massive eczema and yeast when he started his first solids

(horrid cereal, didn't know that grains are stupid as first food).

We went on an elmination diet together when he was 8 mos. old and

that helped clear his eczema. And consequently, my IBS started

improving.

Took me another year to find the SCD and why all this was...

including my mercury filling issue. But I will say that even with a

damaged gut and before the SCD, my breastmilk was helping my DS. We

weaned shortly after his 2nd birthday and his digestion really took

a turn for the worst, with no other diet changes.

Even since being on the SCD since 9/05, his digestion is still now

not as good as it was before: on damaged gut mama breastmilk, and

eating tons of rice, oats and rice milk! So my personal experience

is that BM is liquid gold and the relationship should be preserved

as much as possible... which means more work for the mother to

figure out why her milk is effecting her babe negatively.

Jane and Luke

SCD since 9/05

I'm doing fantastic, DS is still struggling.

>

> Hi all,

> I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various

restrictive

> diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has

> autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I have

> removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last month.

I

> have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas,

> cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is

not

> allergic to and I need to feed him something! y

>

> A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart

from

> what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular

lymphoid

> hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a

> continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for

a

> year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He

also

> has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor

> believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and

has

> recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn

(IgE)

> and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous

but

> we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His

main

> food allergy symptom is eczema.

>

> I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he

cannot

> tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD

diet.

> Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it

mentioned in

> the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is

> breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD

illegal

> (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my

son

> only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an

ounce

> or two per day.

>

> It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken

down in

> my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food

proteins

> do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own

digestion is

> fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet

> (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I

have

> been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating

only 3

> foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to

restrict it

> further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We

rotate

> foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given

day. The

> reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it

would

> take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I

already

> spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3

hours

> driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I

can pop

> a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat

when

> I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely

eat raw

> (uncooked) fruits?

>

> Thanks for your advice!

> Suzanne

>

[Guest guest]

We used the Doctor's Data Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis, it

was quite informative and in many ways more helpful than an upper and

lower GI scope.

I've been able to eliminate most of Tom's GI and allergy symptoms on

a complete elimination diet - I don't eat anything he's allergic to.

I've been pretty succesful at this, though it's a ton of work and not

a lot of fun for me. I went on a total elimination diet for 2 months

when he was 3 months old, eating just turkey, rice, pears and

zucchini for 2 months. I've never eaten the top-8 allergens in the 3

years since then. Now we both eat a rotation diet of 4 foods at a

time (2 veggies, one meat and one oil) for 2 days at a time, then

rotate. It's hard but it keeps him reaction-free. His poops still

aren't good though, he's got yeast and bacteria problems that the

diets haven't helped. He's been off disaccharides for a month (he ate

a little quinoa and millet), and that seems to be helping a bit too.

Suzanne

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various

> >restrictive

> > > diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has

> > > autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I

have

> > > removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last

month.

> >I

> > > have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas,

> > > cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is

> >not

> > > allergic to and I need to feed him something! y

> > >

> > > A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart

from

> > > what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular

> >lymphoid

> > > hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a

> > > continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off

for

> >a

> > > year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation.

He

> >also

> > > has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor

> > > believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine

and

> >has

> > > recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn

> >(IgE)

> > > and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me

nervous

> >but

> > > we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness.

His

> >main

> > > food allergy symptom is eczema.

> > >

> > > I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he

cannot

> > > tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD

> >diet.

> > > Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it

> >mentioned in

> > > the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is

> > > breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD

> >illegal

> > > (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my

> >son

> > > only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an

> >ounce

> > > or two per day.

> > >

> > > It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken

> >down in

> > > my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food

> >proteins

> > > do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own

digestion

> >is

> > > fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American

diet

> > > (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I

> >have

> > > been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating

only

> >3

> > > foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to

restrict

> >it

> > > further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We

rotate

> > > foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given

day.

> >The

> > > reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time

it

> >would

> > > take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I

> >already

> > > spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend

3

> >hours

> > > driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I

can

> >pop

> > > a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to

eat

> >when

> > > I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely

eat

> >raw

> > > (uncooked) fruits?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your advice!

> > > Suzanne

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

book

> >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> >websites:

> >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> >and

> >http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well,that's my question, really. How can I get him on a " least-bad "

intro diet with only these veggies to work with?

Really, the child has to eat something. Other than these veggies all

he tolerates is a few meats and oils.

Suzanne

>

> Welcome to the group Suzanne,

>

> >I have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips,

rutabagas, cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods

he is not allergic to and I need to feed him something!

>

>

> These aren't all illegal, but they usually aren't for beginners.

If he is still having symptoms (gas and diarrhea) than he should wait

on vegetables in the cabbage family - broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower,

kale etc...) Turnip and rutabaga would be even later than these

others ( when essentially healed and then tried cautiously) because

they are pretty fibrous.

>

> >A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart

from what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular

lymphoid hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed

a continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for

a year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He

also

> has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor

> believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and

has

> recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn

(IgE)

> and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous

but

> we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His

main

> food allergy symptom is eczema.

>

> Some links for getting started on the diet:

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#transition

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#menu

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#homemade

> http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#beyond

>

> Some info on yeast and SCD at

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

>

>

> >I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he

cannot

> tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD

diet.

> Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it

mentioned in

> the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is

> breastmilk legal?

>

> > I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD illegal

> (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my

son

> only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an

ounce

> or two per day.

>

> >It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken

down in

> my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food

proteins

> do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion

is

> fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet

> (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I

have

> been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only

3

> foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict

it

> further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate

> foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day.

The

> reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it

would

> take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I

already

> spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3

hours

> driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can

pop

> a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat

when

> I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat

raw

> (uncooked) fruits?

>

> Breastmilk is legal. Your son will do better if you eat legal

foods. Some antigens are passed through breastmilk and can slow his

progress. Just think how a baby reacts if the mother has baked

beans - they'll often be screaming with gas pains - it's the same

idea.

>

> I am not sure about the raw sugars in fruit - but I would think

they will be fine. If you can start the intro diet with your son for

even a day and then gradually add foods to your diet and his diet

you'll get a clear picture on which foods he is fine with and which

foods in his diet and your diet he still isn't ready for. Keeping a

food journal will also help. I had eczema (and my daughter) which

went away when I started the diet.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

> mom of Em and Dan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well,that's my question, really. How can I get him on a " least-bad "

intro diet with only these veggies to work with?

Really, the child has to eat something. Other than these veggies all

he tolerates is a few meats and oils.

Suzanne

>

> Welcome to the group Suzanne,

>

> >I have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips,

rutabagas, cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods

he is not allergic to and I need to feed him something!

>

>

> These aren't all illegal, but they usually aren't for beginners.

If he is still having symptoms (gas and diarrhea) than he should wait

on vegetables in the cabbage family - broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower,

kale etc...) Turnip and rutabaga would be even later than these

others ( when essentially healed and then tried cautiously) because

they are pretty fibrous.

>

> >A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart

from what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular

lymphoid hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed

a continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for

a year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He

also

> has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor

> believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and

has

> recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn

(IgE)

> and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous

but

> we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His

main

> food allergy symptom is eczema.

>

> Some links for getting started on the diet:

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#transition

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#menu

> http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#homemade

> http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#beyond

>

> Some info on yeast and SCD at

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

>

>

> >I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he

cannot

> tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD

diet.

> Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it

mentioned in

> the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is

> breastmilk legal?

>

> > I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD illegal

> (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my

son

> only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an

ounce

> or two per day.

>

> >It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken

down in

> my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food

proteins

> do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion

is

> fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet

> (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I

have

> been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only

3

> foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict

it

> further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate

> foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day.

The

> reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it

would

> take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I

already

> spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3

hours

> driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can

pop

> a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat

when

> I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat

raw

> (uncooked) fruits?

>

> Breastmilk is legal. Your son will do better if you eat legal

foods. Some antigens are passed through breastmilk and can slow his

progress. Just think how a baby reacts if the mother has baked

beans - they'll often be screaming with gas pains - it's the same

idea.

>

> I am not sure about the raw sugars in fruit - but I would think

they will be fine. If you can start the intro diet with your son for

even a day and then gradually add foods to your diet and his diet

you'll get a clear picture on which foods he is fine with and which

foods in his diet and your diet he still isn't ready for. Keeping a

food journal will also help. I had eczema (and my daughter) which

went away when I started the diet.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

> mom of Em and Dan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

If you look on pecanbread.com, there is a chart that lists the

relative ease of digestion of things.

Try choosing foods that are in Stage 1 or 2 over foods in stages 4 and

5 to start the diet with.

http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html

Click on the link that says " Beyond the intro diet " .

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

If you look on pecanbread.com, there is a chart that lists the

relative ease of digestion of things.

Try choosing foods that are in Stage 1 or 2 over foods in stages 4 and

5 to start the diet with.

http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html

Click on the link that says " Beyond the intro diet " .

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03