Re: New, need information on breastfeeding

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad "

and

> therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would all

be

> okay?

Yes, any of the meats would be fine for the intro. They should be

grilled or broiled (fat being harder to digest). If he isn't

having diarrhea 2-3 days of an " intro-like " diet would be sufficient.

Vegetables for this beginng phase could be squash and zucchini

(peeled - don't need to deseed if small zucchini) and maybe cucumber

(peeled and deseeded). The vegetables should be cooked; boiled or

steamed until soft. You may be able to make a jello with legal

cranberry juice and gelatin and honey or with gelatin and home

squeezed lemon juice and honey.

Sheila

>

> MEATS:

> buffalo

> ostrich

> lamb

> grass-fed beef (in small amounts)

>

> VEGGIES:

> asparagus

> beets

> broccoli

> brussel sprouts

> cabbage

> celery

> celery root

> cucumber

> garlic

> onion

> pumpkin

> rutabagas

> spinach

> squash

> zucchini

> turnips

>

> FRUITS:

> cranberry

> lemon

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad "

and

> therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would all

be

> okay?

Yes, any of the meats would be fine for the intro. They should be

grilled or broiled (fat being harder to digest). If he isn't

having diarrhea 2-3 days of an " intro-like " diet would be sufficient.

Vegetables for this beginng phase could be squash and zucchini

(peeled - don't need to deseed if small zucchini) and maybe cucumber

(peeled and deseeded). The vegetables should be cooked; boiled or

steamed until soft. You may be able to make a jello with legal

cranberry juice and gelatin and honey or with gelatin and home

squeezed lemon juice and honey.

Sheila

>

> MEATS:

> buffalo

> ostrich

> lamb

> grass-fed beef (in small amounts)

>

> VEGGIES:

> asparagus

> beets

> broccoli

> brussel sprouts

> cabbage

> celery

> celery root

> cucumber

> garlic

> onion

> pumpkin

> rutabagas

> spinach

> squash

> zucchini

> turnips

>

> FRUITS:

> cranberry

> lemon

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but I've been there and done that. He doesn't tolerate

anything from the Stage 1 list except meats and spinach. But his ileum

is inflamed enough that I'd like to keep him on the base diet for at

least 5 days, and I'm not sure I can feed him just meat, broth and

spinach for 5 days. In Stage 2 at least I can add squashes, pumpkin and

asparagus, though he's slightly allergic to all those.

I guess I'll start at Stage 2. I don't have many options...

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne,

>

> If you look on pecanbread.com, there is a chart that lists the

> relative ease of digestion of things.

> Try choosing foods that are in Stage 1 or 2 over foods in stages 4 and

> 5 to start the diet with.

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html

> Click on the link that says " Beyond the intro diet " .

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but I've been there and done that. He doesn't tolerate

anything from the Stage 1 list except meats and spinach. But his ileum

is inflamed enough that I'd like to keep him on the base diet for at

least 5 days, and I'm not sure I can feed him just meat, broth and

spinach for 5 days. In Stage 2 at least I can add squashes, pumpkin and

asparagus, though he's slightly allergic to all those.

I guess I'll start at Stage 2. I don't have many options...

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne,

>

> If you look on pecanbread.com, there is a chart that lists the

> relative ease of digestion of things.

> Try choosing foods that are in Stage 1 or 2 over foods in stages 4 and

> 5 to start the diet with.

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html

> Click on the link that says " Beyond the intro diet " .

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but I've been there and done that. He doesn't tolerate

anything from the Stage 1 list except meats and spinach. But his ileum

is inflamed enough that I'd like to keep him on the base diet for at

least 5 days, and I'm not sure I can feed him just meat, broth and

spinach for 5 days. In Stage 2 at least I can add squashes, pumpkin and

asparagus, though he's slightly allergic to all those.

I guess I'll start at Stage 2. I don't have many options...

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne,

>

> If you look on pecanbread.com, there is a chart that lists the

> relative ease of digestion of things.

> Try choosing foods that are in Stage 1 or 2 over foods in stages 4 and

> 5 to start the diet with.

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html

> Click on the link that says " Beyond the intro diet " .

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Flor. I'll be interested to hear your progress with NAET. I

am probably going to try it (what the heck, we've exhausted all our

other options). The other method you referred to - could it be BioSET?

That's similar to NAET but is described as being more sophisticated.

If we had a practitioner around here I'd probably try that instead.

Good luck, and it's great to hear from a mom who's been SCD succesful

without being 100% compliant (though I'm 99% there).

Suzanne

>

> Dear Suzanne,

> I am also breastfeeding my 2 year old on SCD. I don't eat gluten

and

> casein because of the peptides but I am not SCD. It would be too

> much work for me and I am not able to do it. As you said, if I can

> digest the carbs there shouldn't be any problem.

> We also did elimination diets a couple of times and later we found

> he was allergic to some things that are not common allergens. Now

he

> still has delayed allergies and we would have to eliminate

> everything in order to find out, not an easy task. I also avoid

what

> I know he is allergic to, but there may be things we don't know.

> Our osteopath suggested we do the USBioTek allergy test, which only

> needs a prick in the finger and a couple of drops of blood and

tests

> for 96 foods. So we will do it this week.

> Also, she suggested doing NAET. This is a technique to cure the

> allergies and she says it has been effective on many of her

> patients. But it is very subjective and its success is strongly

> dependent on matching the patient to the right practitioner. We

want

> to give it a try too, because I don't want to eliminate more foods.

> My son's current allergies don't have an immediate obvious effect,

> but they can be felt while doing cranio-sacral therapy (the one the

> osteopath does).

> She also told me of another technique to eliminate allergies (don't

> remember the name right now) and that is more reliable than NAET,

> but it is more invasive, using needles like acupuncture, and I

don't

> think it's the first choice for a 2 year old.

> We will do the test first and then try NAET and I will let you know

> what happens,

> Flor

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Flor. I'll be interested to hear your progress with NAET. I

am probably going to try it (what the heck, we've exhausted all our

other options). The other method you referred to - could it be BioSET?

That's similar to NAET but is described as being more sophisticated.

If we had a practitioner around here I'd probably try that instead.

Good luck, and it's great to hear from a mom who's been SCD succesful

without being 100% compliant (though I'm 99% there).

Suzanne

>

> Dear Suzanne,

> I am also breastfeeding my 2 year old on SCD. I don't eat gluten

and

> casein because of the peptides but I am not SCD. It would be too

> much work for me and I am not able to do it. As you said, if I can

> digest the carbs there shouldn't be any problem.

> We also did elimination diets a couple of times and later we found

> he was allergic to some things that are not common allergens. Now

he

> still has delayed allergies and we would have to eliminate

> everything in order to find out, not an easy task. I also avoid

what

> I know he is allergic to, but there may be things we don't know.

> Our osteopath suggested we do the USBioTek allergy test, which only

> needs a prick in the finger and a couple of drops of blood and

tests

> for 96 foods. So we will do it this week.

> Also, she suggested doing NAET. This is a technique to cure the

> allergies and she says it has been effective on many of her

> patients. But it is very subjective and its success is strongly

> dependent on matching the patient to the right practitioner. We

want

> to give it a try too, because I don't want to eliminate more foods.

> My son's current allergies don't have an immediate obvious effect,

> but they can be felt while doing cranio-sacral therapy (the one the

> osteopath does).

> She also told me of another technique to eliminate allergies (don't

> remember the name right now) and that is more reliable than NAET,

> but it is more invasive, using needles like acupuncture, and I

don't

> think it's the first choice for a 2 year old.

> We will do the test first and then try NAET and I will let you know

> what happens,

> Flor

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Flor. I'll be interested to hear your progress with NAET. I

am probably going to try it (what the heck, we've exhausted all our

other options). The other method you referred to - could it be BioSET?

That's similar to NAET but is described as being more sophisticated.

If we had a practitioner around here I'd probably try that instead.

Good luck, and it's great to hear from a mom who's been SCD succesful

without being 100% compliant (though I'm 99% there).

Suzanne

>

> Dear Suzanne,

> I am also breastfeeding my 2 year old on SCD. I don't eat gluten

and

> casein because of the peptides but I am not SCD. It would be too

> much work for me and I am not able to do it. As you said, if I can

> digest the carbs there shouldn't be any problem.

> We also did elimination diets a couple of times and later we found

> he was allergic to some things that are not common allergens. Now

he

> still has delayed allergies and we would have to eliminate

> everything in order to find out, not an easy task. I also avoid

what

> I know he is allergic to, but there may be things we don't know.

> Our osteopath suggested we do the USBioTek allergy test, which only

> needs a prick in the finger and a couple of drops of blood and

tests

> for 96 foods. So we will do it this week.

> Also, she suggested doing NAET. This is a technique to cure the

> allergies and she says it has been effective on many of her

> patients. But it is very subjective and its success is strongly

> dependent on matching the patient to the right practitioner. We

want

> to give it a try too, because I don't want to eliminate more foods.

> My son's current allergies don't have an immediate obvious effect,

> but they can be felt while doing cranio-sacral therapy (the one the

> osteopath does).

> She also told me of another technique to eliminate allergies (don't

> remember the name right now) and that is more reliable than NAET,

> but it is more invasive, using needles like acupuncture, and I

don't

> think it's the first choice for a 2 year old.

> We will do the test first and then try NAET and I will let you know

> what happens,

> Flor

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila. I'm starting to get a picture of what an intro diet

might look like for this kid ... it will be very limited, but I'm

thinking we can do it.

I'll probably hold off on the gelatin, since he's allergic to all but

grass-fed beef (and we only give small amounts).

One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

intro diet?

He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet? He's

never had watery diarrhea, just soft mushy (pudding or mashed potato)

stools.

Thanks again!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> > appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad "

> and

> > therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would

all

> be

> > okay?

>

> Yes, any of the meats would be fine for the intro. They should be

> grilled or broiled (fat being harder to digest). If he isn't

> having diarrhea 2-3 days of an " intro-like " diet would be

sufficient.

> Vegetables for this beginng phase could be squash and zucchini

> (peeled - don't need to deseed if small zucchini) and maybe

cucumber

> (peeled and deseeded). The vegetables should be cooked; boiled or

> steamed until soft. You may be able to make a jello with legal

> cranberry juice and gelatin and honey or with gelatin and home

> squeezed lemon juice and honey.

>

> Sheila

>

> >

> > MEATS:

> > buffalo

> > ostrich

> > lamb

> > grass-fed beef (in small amounts)

> >

> > VEGGIES:

> > asparagus

> > beets

> > broccoli

> > brussel sprouts

> > cabbage

> > celery

> > celery root

> > cucumber

> > garlic

> > onion

> > pumpkin

> > rutabagas

> > spinach

> > squash

> > zucchini

> > turnips

> >

> > FRUITS:

> > cranberry

> > lemon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila. I'm starting to get a picture of what an intro diet

might look like for this kid ... it will be very limited, but I'm

thinking we can do it.

I'll probably hold off on the gelatin, since he's allergic to all but

grass-fed beef (and we only give small amounts).

One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

intro diet?

He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet? He's

never had watery diarrhea, just soft mushy (pudding or mashed potato)

stools.

Thanks again!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> > appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad "

> and

> > therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would

all

> be

> > okay?

>

> Yes, any of the meats would be fine for the intro. They should be

> grilled or broiled (fat being harder to digest). If he isn't

> having diarrhea 2-3 days of an " intro-like " diet would be

sufficient.

> Vegetables for this beginng phase could be squash and zucchini

> (peeled - don't need to deseed if small zucchini) and maybe

cucumber

> (peeled and deseeded). The vegetables should be cooked; boiled or

> steamed until soft. You may be able to make a jello with legal

> cranberry juice and gelatin and honey or with gelatin and home

> squeezed lemon juice and honey.

>

> Sheila

>

> >

> > MEATS:

> > buffalo

> > ostrich

> > lamb

> > grass-fed beef (in small amounts)

> >

> > VEGGIES:

> > asparagus

> > beets

> > broccoli

> > brussel sprouts

> > cabbage

> > celery

> > celery root

> > cucumber

> > garlic

> > onion

> > pumpkin

> > rutabagas

> > spinach

> > squash

> > zucchini

> > turnips

> >

> > FRUITS:

> > cranberry

> > lemon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila. I'm starting to get a picture of what an intro diet

might look like for this kid ... it will be very limited, but I'm

thinking we can do it.

I'll probably hold off on the gelatin, since he's allergic to all but

grass-fed beef (and we only give small amounts).

One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

intro diet?

He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet? He's

never had watery diarrhea, just soft mushy (pudding or mashed potato)

stools.

Thanks again!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> > appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad "

> and

> > therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would

all

> be

> > okay?

>

> Yes, any of the meats would be fine for the intro. They should be

> grilled or broiled (fat being harder to digest). If he isn't

> having diarrhea 2-3 days of an " intro-like " diet would be

sufficient.

> Vegetables for this beginng phase could be squash and zucchini

> (peeled - don't need to deseed if small zucchini) and maybe

cucumber

> (peeled and deseeded). The vegetables should be cooked; boiled or

> steamed until soft. You may be able to make a jello with legal

> cranberry juice and gelatin and honey or with gelatin and home

> squeezed lemon juice and honey.

>

> Sheila

>

> >

> > MEATS:

> > buffalo

> > ostrich

> > lamb

> > grass-fed beef (in small amounts)

> >

> > VEGGIES:

> > asparagus

> > beets

> > broccoli

> > brussel sprouts

> > cabbage

> > celery

> > celery root

> > cucumber

> > garlic

> > onion

> > pumpkin

> > rutabagas

> > spinach

> > squash

> > zucchini

> > turnips

> >

> > FRUITS:

> > cranberry

> > lemon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

> touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

> We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

> intro diet?

Yes, but just for a day or two since he doesn't have many other

calories options. Are you able to use honey to sweeten legal

cranberry or home squeezed lemon juice? That would help with the

calories. There will be more calories in squash than some other

vegetables.

> He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

> these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet?

It would be great if they do but because of his limitations it will

be hard. What you " should " do is make sure that all his veggies are

still peeled and cooked before moving on to more complex foods. You

should wait to introduce the following until after his stools firm up

some: broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, rutabagas, turnips (and

other cabbage family vegetables). If unsure about which foods would

be good to introduce next, let us know.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

> touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

> We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

> intro diet?

Yes, but just for a day or two since he doesn't have many other

calories options. Are you able to use honey to sweeten legal

cranberry or home squeezed lemon juice? That would help with the

calories. There will be more calories in squash than some other

vegetables.

> He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

> these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet?

It would be great if they do but because of his limitations it will

be hard. What you " should " do is make sure that all his veggies are

still peeled and cooked before moving on to more complex foods. You

should wait to introduce the following until after his stools firm up

some: broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, rutabagas, turnips (and

other cabbage family vegetables). If unsure about which foods would

be good to introduce next, let us know.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which you

> touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for calories.

> We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

> intro diet?

Yes, but just for a day or two since he doesn't have many other

calories options. Are you able to use honey to sweeten legal

cranberry or home squeezed lemon juice? That would help with the

calories. There will be more calories in squash than some other

vegetables.

> He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

> these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet?

It would be great if they do but because of his limitations it will

be hard. What you " should " do is make sure that all his veggies are

still peeled and cooked before moving on to more complex foods. You

should wait to introduce the following until after his stools firm up

some: broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, rutabagas, turnips (and

other cabbage family vegetables). If unsure about which foods would

be good to introduce next, let us know.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan

[Guest guest]

Sheila, your advice is so helpful to us - and I'm getting brave now

to start the intro diet. I think we're going to do it this weekend -

we'll have a long weekend, 3 days before having to think about which

of the foods he can take to school for meals there (a complicating

factor).

Are juices safe for the intro diet? We need a way to get his

supplements in him. For instance, very diluted cranberry with honey,

or some watered-down pear or apple sauce? (I haven't seen a pear or

apple juice recipe or a legal commerical juice brand, but if there is

one it would be a delight). We haven't used honey, stevia's been our

sweetener, and we will have to continue the small amounts in his

compounded meds. If we used honey I'd be introducing it for the first

time, which I'm reluctant to do for the intro diet. Pear or apple

juice would be better, though very diluted as he's a yeast kid

(though currently on antifungals).

Thanks again for your patient advice for these beginner questions. I

SO want to do it right!

Suzanne

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> > One thing I haven't seen addressed much is fats and oils, which

you

> > touched on. My son depends on a lot of oils (rotated) for

calories.

> > We add oil to most of his veggies. Should we stop that during the

> > intro diet?

>

> Yes, but just for a day or two since he doesn't have many other

> calories options. Are you able to use honey to sweeten legal

> cranberry or home squeezed lemon juice? That would help with the

> calories. There will be more calories in squash than some other

> vegetables.

>

>

> > He doesn't have diarrhea, just " pudding poops " . Should I wait for

> > these to clear up before moving to the next level of the diet?

>

> It would be great if they do but because of his limitations it will

> be hard. What you " should " do is make sure that all his veggies

are

> still peeled and cooked before moving on to more complex foods. You

> should wait to introduce the following until after his stools firm

up

> some: broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, rutabagas, turnips (and

> other cabbage family vegetables). If unsure about which foods

would

> be good to introduce next, let us know.

>

> Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

> mom of Em and Dan

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> Are juices safe for the intro diet?

The juices on the intro diet are legal local apple cider and grape

juice. The legal commercial brands are:

Tropicana Pure premium OJ

Dole pineapple juice

Heinz and 's Tomato juice

The Knudsen's *Just Juice* line (not the rest of their products)

Kedeem grape juice

Welch's Grape juice

If you want to make your own apple cider that would be okay to use -

just remember to dilute it 1:1.

We need a way to get his

> supplements in him. For instance, very diluted cranberry with

honey,

> or some watered-down pear or apple sauce?

You can make your own apple juice by just straining the homemade

apple sauce.

Their is an apple juice recipe at http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

under the " Drinks " section. It has spices but if you just use

apples and water it makes plain juice.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

> Are juices safe for the intro diet?

The juices on the intro diet are legal local apple cider and grape

juice. The legal commercial brands are:

Tropicana Pure premium OJ

Dole pineapple juice

Heinz and 's Tomato juice

The Knudsen's *Just Juice* line (not the rest of their products)

Kedeem grape juice

Welch's Grape juice

If you want to make your own apple cider that would be okay to use -

just remember to dilute it 1:1.

We need a way to get his

> supplements in him. For instance, very diluted cranberry with

honey,

> or some watered-down pear or apple sauce?

You can make your own apple juice by just straining the homemade

apple sauce.

Their is an apple juice recipe at http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

under the " Drinks " section. It has spices but if you just use

apples and water it makes plain juice.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of Em and Dan