Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 We used the Doctor's Data Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis, it was quite informative and in many ways more helpful than an upper and lower GI scope. I've been able to eliminate most of Tom's GI and allergy symptoms on a complete elimination diet - I don't eat anything he's allergic to. I've been pretty succesful at this, though it's a ton of work and not a lot of fun for me. I went on a total elimination diet for 2 months when he was 3 months old, eating just turkey, rice, pears and zucchini for 2 months. I've never eaten the top-8 allergens in the 3 years since then. Now we both eat a rotation diet of 4 foods at a time (2 veggies, one meat and one oil) for 2 days at a time, then rotate. It's hard but it keeps him reaction-free. His poops still aren't good though, he's got yeast and bacteria problems that the diets haven't helped. He's been off disaccharides for a month (he ate a little quinoa and millet), and that seems to be helping a bit too. Suzanne > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various > >restrictive > > > diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has > > > autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I have > > > removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last month. > >I > > > have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas, > > > cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is > >not > > > allergic to and I need to feed him something! y > > > > > > A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart from > > > what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular > >lymphoid > > > hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a > > > continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for > >a > > > year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He > >also > > > has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor > > > believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and > >has > > > recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn > >(IgE) > > > and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous > >but > > > we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His > >main > > > food allergy symptom is eczema. > > > > > > I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he cannot > > > tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD > >diet. > > > Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it > >mentioned in > > > the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is > > > breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD > >illegal > > > (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my > >son > > > only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an > >ounce > > > or two per day. > > > > > > It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken > >down in > > > my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food > >proteins > > > do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion > >is > > > fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet > > > (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I > >have > > > been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only > >3 > > > foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict > >it > > > further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate > > > foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day. > >The > > > reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it > >would > > > take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I > >already > > > spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3 > >hours > > > driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can > >pop > > > a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat > >when > > > I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat > >raw > > > (uncooked) fruits? > > > > > > Thanks for your advice! > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > >websites: > >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > >and > >http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hey Suzanne, There are many enzymes without papain... go to the health food store, I'm sure they work with you on finding products that will work for you. I had my son on a very restrictive diet also... Sometimes the benefit of something you believe he's allergic to outweighs the risk...for example Omega 3's and 6's...his brain needs it ... (food for thought) you may have to do some experimenting... MSM tastes bitter, that why there are illlegals in it, you coultry pure MSM with honey...Health Food store will help you with Quercitin. And he probably needs probiotics too. Go to www.pecanbread.com and click on food preparation you'll see the modifications for ASD kids and INTRO diet. You probably don't have to wait 6 months to introduce, just cook and puree everything and add slowly. Agape, Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: Thanks . I am now trying to figure out which of his safe foods would work for an intro diet. He only tolerates a few meats and veggies, and most of his veggies are not suitable for the intro diet. I am able to succesfully control his eczema by limiting his diet and mine, but I'm not willing to give him allergens for the intro diet. I don't eat any of the foods he's allergic to, but I do permit potatoes (he's not allergic to them but I don't give him any disaccharides). It's my basic understanding that sugars and starches don't transmit through breastmilk the way proteins do, so the disaccharides shouldn't be a problem. He isn't able to tolerate most suplements in general, due to allergenic ingredients. He takes probiotics, but enzymes are out as he's allergic to papaya in most of them. Krill oil is out, he's allergic to all ocean products. I think there's an ingredient in MSM he's allergic to, but I should look into it more. I don't know a thing about Quercitin, can you tell me more? Omega 3's and 6's are usually dericed from allergens, I've never found a safe one. Here are the foods we have to choose from to develop an intro diet for him (after I eliminated all the allergens and disaccharides). I'd appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad " and therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would all be okay? MEATS: buffalo ostrich lamb grass-fed beef (in small amounts) VEGGIES: asparagus beets broccoli brussel sprouts cabbage celery celery root cucumber garlic onion pumpkin rutabagas spinach squash zucchini turnips FRUITS: cranberry lemon He REALLY, REALLY is IgE reactive to almost all foods, so I'm not planning to introduce any of those foods for at least 6 months on the diet. We're accustomed to very restrictive diets around here, so commitment is not a problem. The only thing that is hard is getting him sufficient nutrition on the very limited food list we have to work with. I would love any advice about which of the above foods we could use for an intro diet. Suzanne > > > > Hi all, > > I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various > restrictive > > diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has > > autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I have > > removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last month. > I > > have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas, > > cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is > not > > allergic to and I need to feed him something! y > > > > A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart from > > what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular > lymphoid > > hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a > > continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for > a > > year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He > also > > has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor > > believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and > has > > recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn > (IgE) > > and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous > but > > we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His > main > > food allergy symptom is eczema. > > > > I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he cannot > > tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD > diet. > > Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it > mentioned in > > the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is > > breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD > illegal > > (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my > son > > only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an > ounce > > or two per day. > > > > It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken > down in > > my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food > proteins > > do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion > is > > fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet > > (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I > have > > been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only > 3 > > foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict > it > > further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate > > foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day. > The > > reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it > would > > take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I > already > > spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3 > hours > > driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can > pop > > a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat > when > > I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat > raw > > (uncooked) fruits? > > > > Thanks for your advice! > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hey Suzanne, There are many enzymes without papain... go to the health food store, I'm sure they work with you on finding products that will work for you. I had my son on a very restrictive diet also... Sometimes the benefit of something you believe he's allergic to outweighs the risk...for example Omega 3's and 6's...his brain needs it ... (food for thought) you may have to do some experimenting... MSM tastes bitter, that why there are illlegals in it, you coultry pure MSM with honey...Health Food store will help you with Quercitin. And he probably needs probiotics too. Go to www.pecanbread.com and click on food preparation you'll see the modifications for ASD kids and INTRO diet. You probably don't have to wait 6 months to introduce, just cook and puree everything and add slowly. Agape, Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: Thanks . I am now trying to figure out which of his safe foods would work for an intro diet. He only tolerates a few meats and veggies, and most of his veggies are not suitable for the intro diet. I am able to succesfully control his eczema by limiting his diet and mine, but I'm not willing to give him allergens for the intro diet. I don't eat any of the foods he's allergic to, but I do permit potatoes (he's not allergic to them but I don't give him any disaccharides). It's my basic understanding that sugars and starches don't transmit through breastmilk the way proteins do, so the disaccharides shouldn't be a problem. He isn't able to tolerate most suplements in general, due to allergenic ingredients. He takes probiotics, but enzymes are out as he's allergic to papaya in most of them. Krill oil is out, he's allergic to all ocean products. I think there's an ingredient in MSM he's allergic to, but I should look into it more. I don't know a thing about Quercitin, can you tell me more? Omega 3's and 6's are usually dericed from allergens, I've never found a safe one. Here are the foods we have to choose from to develop an intro diet for him (after I eliminated all the allergens and disaccharides). I'd appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad " and therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would all be okay? MEATS: buffalo ostrich lamb grass-fed beef (in small amounts) VEGGIES: asparagus beets broccoli brussel sprouts cabbage celery celery root cucumber garlic onion pumpkin rutabagas spinach squash zucchini turnips FRUITS: cranberry lemon He REALLY, REALLY is IgE reactive to almost all foods, so I'm not planning to introduce any of those foods for at least 6 months on the diet. We're accustomed to very restrictive diets around here, so commitment is not a problem. The only thing that is hard is getting him sufficient nutrition on the very limited food list we have to work with. I would love any advice about which of the above foods we could use for an intro diet. Suzanne > > > > Hi all, > > I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various > restrictive > > diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has > > autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I have > > removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last month. > I > > have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas, > > cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is > not > > allergic to and I need to feed him something! y > > > > A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart from > > what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular > lymphoid > > hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a > > continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for > a > > year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He > also > > has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor > > believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and > has > > recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn > (IgE) > > and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous > but > > we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His > main > > food allergy symptom is eczema. > > > > I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he cannot > > tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD > diet. > > Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it > mentioned in > > the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is > > breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD > illegal > > (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my > son > > only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an > ounce > > or two per day. > > > > It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken > down in > > my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food > proteins > > do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion > is > > fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet > > (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I > have > > been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only > 3 > > foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict > it > > further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate > > foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day. > The > > reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it > would > > take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I > already > > spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3 > hours > > driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can > pop > > a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat > when > > I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat > raw > > (uncooked) fruits? > > > > Thanks for your advice! > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hey Suzanne, There are many enzymes without papain... go to the health food store, I'm sure they work with you on finding products that will work for you. I had my son on a very restrictive diet also... Sometimes the benefit of something you believe he's allergic to outweighs the risk...for example Omega 3's and 6's...his brain needs it ... (food for thought) you may have to do some experimenting... MSM tastes bitter, that why there are illlegals in it, you coultry pure MSM with honey...Health Food store will help you with Quercitin. And he probably needs probiotics too. Go to www.pecanbread.com and click on food preparation you'll see the modifications for ASD kids and INTRO diet. You probably don't have to wait 6 months to introduce, just cook and puree everything and add slowly. Agape, Suzanne szmidford@...> wrote: Thanks . I am now trying to figure out which of his safe foods would work for an intro diet. He only tolerates a few meats and veggies, and most of his veggies are not suitable for the intro diet. I am able to succesfully control his eczema by limiting his diet and mine, but I'm not willing to give him allergens for the intro diet. I don't eat any of the foods he's allergic to, but I do permit potatoes (he's not allergic to them but I don't give him any disaccharides). It's my basic understanding that sugars and starches don't transmit through breastmilk the way proteins do, so the disaccharides shouldn't be a problem. He isn't able to tolerate most suplements in general, due to allergenic ingredients. He takes probiotics, but enzymes are out as he's allergic to papaya in most of them. Krill oil is out, he's allergic to all ocean products. I think there's an ingredient in MSM he's allergic to, but I should look into it more. I don't know a thing about Quercitin, can you tell me more? Omega 3's and 6's are usually dericed from allergens, I've never found a safe one. Here are the foods we have to choose from to develop an intro diet for him (after I eliminated all the allergens and disaccharides). I'd appreciate any advice about which ones would be the " least bad " and therefore suitable for an intro diet. I assume the meats would all be okay? MEATS: buffalo ostrich lamb grass-fed beef (in small amounts) VEGGIES: asparagus beets broccoli brussel sprouts cabbage celery celery root cucumber garlic onion pumpkin rutabagas spinach squash zucchini turnips FRUITS: cranberry lemon He REALLY, REALLY is IgE reactive to almost all foods, so I'm not planning to introduce any of those foods for at least 6 months on the diet. We're accustomed to very restrictive diets around here, so commitment is not a problem. The only thing that is hard is getting him sufficient nutrition on the very limited food list we have to work with. I would love any advice about which of the above foods we could use for an intro diet. Suzanne > > > > Hi all, > > I am new to SCD although my son and I have been on various > restrictive > > diets for allergies since 2 months old. My son is now 3 and has > > autism. He can only tolerate about 15 foods currently, but I have > > removed all the disaccharides from his diet within the last month. > I > > have not yet removed all illegal vegetables (turnips, rutabagas, > > cabbage, broccoli), because they are some of the few foods he is > not > > allergic to and I need to feed him something! y > > > > A recent upper and lower GI scope showed no inflammation apart from > > what the doctor termed " mild gastritis " , but did show nodular > lymphoid > > hyperplasia. A Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis showed a > > continuing yeast problem (which we've been treating on and off for > a > > year), and high lactoferrin levels indicative on inflammation. He > also > > has occult blood in his stool and high Secretory IgA. His doctor > > believes there is probably inflammation in his small intestine and > has > > recommended a trial of Singulair. He is highly allergic to corn > (IgE) > > and Singulair granules contain mannitol, so this makes me nervous > but > > we are going forward. He is not anaphylactic, thank goodness. His > main > > food allergy symptom is eczema. > > > > I am breastfeeding my son and I eliminating all the foods he cannot > > tolerate. My question is about the role of breastmilk in the SCD > diet. > > Elaine doesn't mention this in BTVC and I have not seen it > mentioned in > > the files or various SCD websites. As far as anyone knows, is > > breastmilk legal? I do continue to eat a few foods that are SCD > illegal > > (small amounts of sugar, and potatoes for calories). However, my > son > > only gets a very small amount of breastmilk any more - maybe an > ounce > > or two per day. > > > > It is my understanding that sugars and carbohydrates are broken > down in > > my digestion and do not transmit through breastmilk like food > proteins > > do. Is my understanding correct? As far as I know, my own digestion > is > > fine and I would have no problems eating a standard American diet > > (though I'm sure I'm healthier without it). But quite simply, I > have > > been on an extremely restricted diet for 3 years, often eating only > 3 > > foods at a time for months, and I don't think I am able to restrict > it > > further than I currently am - which is pretty restricted. We rotate > > foods every 2 days, so I do only eat 3 or 4 foods on any given day. > The > > reason I can't restrict my diet more is mostly due to the time it > would > > take to prepare SCD foods for myself in addition to my son. I > already > > spend 3-4 hours per day cooking, and I work full time and spend 3 > hours > > driving my son to therapy. There just isn't more time, and if I can > pop > > a baked potato in the microwave, it often means that I get to eat > when > > I otherwise would go hungry most of the day. Also, can I safely eat > raw > > (uncooked) fruits? > > > > Thanks for your advice! > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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